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    100% Packet loss on primary firewall with HA Enabled (PFSync/CARP/NAT)

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    • DerelictD Offline
      Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
      last edited by Derelict

      Why the /32s? CARP VIPs should have the same netmask as the interfaces they are on.

      https://www.netgate.com/docs/pfsense/book/highavailability/index.html

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      • DerelictD Offline
        Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
        last edited by

        Why GW_LAN?

        You should probably post screenshots instead of textual approximations so we know what it is we're actually looking at.

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          jgzowski @Derelict
          last edited by

          @derelict That i did not notice, flicking them all over to /24 bit.

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          • DerelictD Offline
            Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
            last edited by Derelict

            It sounds like you have address conflicts between the primary and secondary though.

            You need to configure the two nodes with their own addresses on every interface. The CARP VIP swings between them.

            Simple example:

            WAN
            192.0.2.1/29 ISP GATEWAY
            192.0.2.2/29 CARP WAN
            192.0.2.3/29 PRIMARY WAN
            192.0.2.4/29 SECONDARY WAN

            LAN
            192.168.100.1/24 CARP LAN
            192.168.100.2/24 PRIMARY LAN
            192.168.100.3/24 SECONDARY LAN

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              jgzowski
              last edited by

              We have this setup:
              Firewall 1: WAN: 192...201/24
              Firewall 2: WAN: 192...202/24

              Reason for two CARP for WAN is due to rules on ISP end, specific traffic needs to go out via .2
              CARP WAN: 192...2/24
              CARP WAN2: 192...3/24

              ISP Gateway: 192...1/24

              I'll power up the second firewall later in the day although the change of subnet's for the CARP might be the fix.

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                jgzowski
                last edited by

                After making the tweaks to the CARP subnets I'm still left in the same situation, one switch is permanently sat with 100% packet loss, the other 0%

                Any logs I can provide that'll help diagnose the issue?

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                • DerelictD Offline
                  Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                  last edited by

                  @jgzowski said in 100% Packet loss on primary firewall with HA Enabled (PFSync/CARP/NAT):

                  After making the tweaks to the CARP subnets I'm still left in the same situation, one switch is permanently sat with 100% packet loss, the other 0%

                  What do you mean one switch?

                  What exactly are you testing and how?

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                    jgzowski @Derelict
                    last edited by

                    @derelict Sorry, i meant to say Firewall.
                    I disabled monitoring of gateway as it does seem to function as expected.

                    Issue I'm seeing now though within the logs is:
                    A communications error occurred while attempting to call XMLRPC method host_firmware_version
                    Configuration from primary isn't replicating to the secondary.

                    Followed the instructions exactly and have double checked them now many times. Only have sync settings set on the primary, firewall rules for sync port set up.

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                      Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate @jgzowski
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                      @jgzowski said in 100% Packet loss on primary firewall with HA Enabled (PFSync/CARP/NAT):

                      @derelict Sorry, i meant to say Firewall.
                      I disabled monitoring of gateway as it does seem to function as expected.

                      does or does not? Because it works fine.

                      Issue I'm seeing now though within the logs is:
                      A communications error occurred while attempting to call XMLRPC method host_firmware_version

                      That works fine too. Can you ping the other side that you're syncing to? Can you Diagnostics > Test Port to it on your webgui port? Is the admin password the same as is set in the sync settings?

                      Configuration from primary isn't replicating to the secondary.

                      Followed the instructions exactly and have double checked them now many times. Only have sync settings set on the primary, firewall rules for sync port set up.

                      If it was done exactly as documented it would be working. I'd check everything again.

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                        jgzowski
                        last edited by jgzowski

                        both firewalls are working, the packet loss issue seems to be there still although i disabled monitoring of it as as soon as primary drops the secondary works and vice versa.

                        Primary managed to update the configuration on the secondary after the secondary had a reboot, since reboot though it's back to doing:

                        A communications error occurred while attempting to call XMLRPC method restore_config_section: @ 2019-01-30 16:56:19
                        A communications error occurred while attempting to call XMLRPC method host_firmware_version: @ 2019-01-30 16:56:37

                        Port test from SYNCPORT:
                        Port test to host: 10.200.0.2 Port: 443 successful

                        Using HTTPS for webgui

                        Firewall logs from SYNCPORT:
                        SYNCPORT tcp 10.200.0.1:40286 -> 10.200.0.2:443 FIN_WAIT_2:FIN_WAIT_2 0 / 0 0 B / 0 B
                        SYNCPORT pfsync 10.200.0.1 -> 10.200.0.2 MULTIPLE:MULTIPLE 21.66 K / 577 23.69 MiB / 460 KiB
                        SYNCPORT tcp 10.200.0.1:40286 -> 10.200.0.2:443 FIN_WAIT_2:FIN_WAIT_2 4 / 3 216 B / 164 B

                        --- EDIT

                        It now seems to be working, have not changed anything else but it works.

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                        • DerelictD Offline
                          Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                          last edited by

                          Do you have State killing on gateway failure enabled in System > Advanced, Miscellaneous?

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                            jgzowski
                            last edited by

                            no, should i?

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                            • DerelictD Offline
                              Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                              last edited by

                              No. Not unless you know you need it. It is commonly the cause of the XMLRPC sync state being killed, resulting in errors like you are seeing.

                              There has to be a reason for what you are seeing. What are the rules on the sync interfaces on both nodes?

                              Are you just using the admin user/password for this or did you create another user?

                              Are you familiar with packet capturing? Capturing HTTPS traffic on the sync interfaces might yield a clue.

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                              A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                              DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                              Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                                jgzowski @Derelict
                                last edited by

                                @derelict

                                Rules on both firewalls for the syncport:

                                States	Protocol	Source	Port	Destination	Port	Gateway	Queue	Schedule	Description	Actions
                                 	0 /0 B IPv4+6 *	SYNCPORT net	*	*	*	*	none	 		    
                                

                                I'm using the default user admin with the same password on each firewall.

                                Recorded full packet capture, looked in Wireshark and can't see anything glaringly obvious. servers are talking to each other, passing key exchange/handshake followed by many SYN,ACK and Application Data. Communication is going both ways ending with a FIN, ACK from the primary server and an ACK from the secondary.

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                                  jgzowski
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                                  Think i've solved it. Had a NAT Outbound rule for any traffic to anywhere to use NAT Adddress CARP.
                                  Added mapping for source of the LAN and another for source of the SYNCPORT and instructed the SYNCPORT not to use NAT.

                                  Also made changes to DNS Resolver so that All interfaces resolve to the NAT CARP as DNS was set to 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4

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                                  • DerelictD Offline
                                    Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                                    last edited by Derelict

                                    Why would sync interface traffic ever have to go out the WAN?

                                    Yes, outbound NAT with source any is almost never right - especially to a CARP VIP.

                                    Traffic from Localhost should NAT to the interface address

                                    Traffic from inside hosts should:

                                    1. Use the local interface CARP VIP as their default gateway
                                    2. Have outbound NAT to the WAN CARP VIP set.

                                    Traffic from the sync interface should never need internet access.

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                                    A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                                    DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
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