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    • VeldkornetV
      Veldkornet @Qinn
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      @qinn Yes, I have a Samsung SSD 850 EVO mSATA 250GB.

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      • QinnQ
        Qinn @Veldkornet
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        @veldkornet Thanks and good to know as the table on site mentioned, not tested.👍

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        Hardeware: Intel(R) Celeron(R) J4125 CPU @ 2.00GHz 102 GB mSATA SSD (ZFS)
        Firmware: Latest-stable-pfSense CE (amd64)
        Packages: pfBlockerNG devel-beta (beta tester) - Avahi - Notes - Ntopng - PIMD/udpbroadcastrelay - Service Watchdog - System Patches

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          dugeem
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          For another quick comparison I updated my test APU2C4 to mainline v4.9.0.2. Quick & dirty performance testing showed gain for light loads was similar to legacy v4.0.24 (at least within a few percent).

          I also compared full multi core performance on both versions and had similar results (again within a few percent).

          @Qinn FYI I'm also running mSata SSDs in both my test and live systems.

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          • QinnQ
            Qinn @dugeem
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            @dugeem said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

            For another quick comparison I updated my test APU2C4 to mainline v4.9.0.2. Quick & dirty performance testing showed gain for light loads was similar to legacy v4.0.24 (at least within a few percent).

            I also compared full multi core performance on both versions and had similar results (again within a few percent).

            @Qinn FYI I'm also running mSata SSDs in both my test and live systems.

            Thanks for confirming. Btw how do you install the bios, I boot into a USB stick with has tinycore and then flashrom?

            Hardeware: Intel(R) Celeron(R) J4125 CPU @ 2.00GHz 102 GB mSATA SSD (ZFS)
            Firmware: Latest-stable-pfSense CE (amd64)
            Packages: pfBlockerNG devel-beta (beta tester) - Avahi - Notes - Ntopng - PIMD/udpbroadcastrelay - Service Watchdog - System Patches

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            • VeldkornetV
              Veldkornet @Qinn
              last edited by Veldkornet

              @qinn SSH into it and install flashrom. No need to boot from USB etc.

              pkg install flashrom

              Upload the firmware to /tmp with scp and run:
              flashrom -w /tmp/apu2_v4.9.0.2.rom -p internal:boardmismatch=force

              Shutdown pfSense, pull the power for 10 seconds, then boot up.

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              • QinnQ
                Qinn @Veldkornet
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                @veldkornet said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

                @qinn SSH into it and install flashrom. No need to boot from USB etc.

                pkg install flashrom

                Upload the firmware to /tmp with scp and run:
                flashrom -w /tmp/apu2_v4.9.0.2.rom -p internal:boardmismatch=force

                Shutdown pfSense, pull the power for 10 seconds, then boot up.

                Thanks btw you always use the command :boardmismatch=force*?

                Hardeware: Intel(R) Celeron(R) J4125 CPU @ 2.00GHz 102 GB mSATA SSD (ZFS)
                Firmware: Latest-stable-pfSense CE (amd64)
                Packages: pfBlockerNG devel-beta (beta tester) - Avahi - Notes - Ntopng - PIMD/udpbroadcastrelay - Service Watchdog - System Patches

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                • VeldkornetV
                  Veldkornet @Qinn
                  last edited by

                  @qinn No, the board mismatch is probably not required. But at one point they kept changing the name between “apu2”, “APU2”, “PC Engines APU2”, etc. So I’ve just left it in now... although I think they’ve settled now :)

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                  • QinnQ
                    Qinn @Veldkornet
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                    @veldkornet I will try tomorrow when I have access to the FW, it seems they have kept there promise that mainline is good for pfS http://www.pcengines.info/forums/?page=post&id=6D2EEC40-5928-463B-8BAE-7C74A46B2060&fid=DF5ACB70-99C4-4C61-AFA6-4C0E0DB05B2A

                    Hardeware: Intel(R) Celeron(R) J4125 CPU @ 2.00GHz 102 GB mSATA SSD (ZFS)
                    Firmware: Latest-stable-pfSense CE (amd64)
                    Packages: pfBlockerNG devel-beta (beta tester) - Avahi - Notes - Ntopng - PIMD/udpbroadcastrelay - Service Watchdog - System Patches

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                    • QinnQ
                      Qinn
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                      ...up and running on Coreboot Mainline bios version 4.9.0.2, so far so good..

                      Hardeware: Intel(R) Celeron(R) J4125 CPU @ 2.00GHz 102 GB mSATA SSD (ZFS)
                      Firmware: Latest-stable-pfSense CE (amd64)
                      Packages: pfBlockerNG devel-beta (beta tester) - Avahi - Notes - Ntopng - PIMD/udpbroadcastrelay - Service Watchdog - System Patches

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                        kevindd992002 @Veldkornet
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                        @veldkornet said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

                        @kevindd992002 said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

                        Does this mean that as long as you add those lines to /boot/loader.conf, running the latest FW's is fine?

                        I'm currently running 4.8.0.5 on pfSense 4.2.2 with a SSD in ZFS and except for the small things I mentioned about the reboot not working if the system had been running for a long time, all seems to be fine. I have those lines in my config as well.

                        Btw, what do those config lines do and why'd you recommend them? I'll flash the latest mainline release in a few hours.

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                          dugeem @kevindd992002
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                          @kevindd992002

                          With either the latest legacy or mainline releases there is no longer any need to add specific coreboot configuration to loader.conf.local or device.hints.

                          With mainline up until v4.6.7 it was recommended to add

                          hint.ahci.0.msi="0"
                          

                          To device.hints file (source https://github.com/pcengines/apu2-documentation/blob/master/docs/pfSense-install-guide.md)

                          NB do not modify loader.conf - it may/will be overwritten by pfSense. Always put system specific config lines in loader.conf.local.

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                            kevindd992002 @dugeem
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                            @dugeem

                            Thanks. So I don't have to worry about these custom configs then.

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                            • VeldkornetV
                              Veldkornet
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                              I just have a look at /var/log/dmesg.boot and see what it complains about. Add anything that’s related to those.

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                                kevindd992002
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                                Is the APU2C4 a UEFI-compatible board?

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                                  VAMike @kevindd992002
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                                  @kevindd992002 no

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                                  • QinnQ
                                    Qinn @kevindd992002
                                    last edited by

                                    @kevindd992002 no it's BIOS

                                    Hardeware: Intel(R) Celeron(R) J4125 CPU @ 2.00GHz 102 GB mSATA SSD (ZFS)
                                    Firmware: Latest-stable-pfSense CE (amd64)
                                    Packages: pfBlockerNG devel-beta (beta tester) - Avahi - Notes - Ntopng - PIMD/udpbroadcastrelay - Service Watchdog - System Patches

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                                      wgentine
                                      last edited by wgentine

                                      @Qinn reinitiating the conversation here. I did not go for 4.9.0.2 but i'm running 4.0.24 and also found a temperature drop from 58C (average) to 51C.

                                      I have no idea why... performance is great and handling a gigabit FiberGateway w/o any issues. Just had to tweak a bit and enable igb firmware+NIC queues+hw offloading.

                                      Wonder how we can start using the core performance boost feature... After applying this firmware I couldn't find any new speed freq setting beyond 1000.

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                                      • QinnQ
                                        Qinn @Qinn
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                                        @wgentine I was so bold to copy your post in the other thread here, maybe someone can shed a light on it..

                                        https://forum.netgate.com/topic/133656/did-i-just-overclocked-my-apu2c4-amd-gx-412tc-soc/31?loggedin=true

                                        @wgentine said in Did I just overclocked my apu2c4 (AMD GX-412TC SOC)?:

                                        Not supposed to resurrect this post but pcengines had just enabled AMD Core Performance Boot feature:

                                        https://3mdeb.com/firmware/amd-cpu-boost/

                                        Anyone fancy trying out?

                                        Hardeware: Intel(R) Celeron(R) J4125 CPU @ 2.00GHz 102 GB mSATA SSD (ZFS)
                                        Firmware: Latest-stable-pfSense CE (amd64)
                                        Packages: pfBlockerNG devel-beta (beta tester) - Avahi - Notes - Ntopng - PIMD/udpbroadcastrelay - Service Watchdog - System Patches

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                                          wgentine
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                                          @Qinn I had a quick conversation with the firmware developer. He said ACPI doesn't know about the core boost feature but if you run some benchmarks you can finally prove a 40% performance increase in CPU + Memory bandwidth.

                                          1.4Ghz... but FreeBSD won't know a thing about the clock increase.
                                          At the same time the temperature dropped significantly.

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                                            wgentine
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                                            @Qinn the temperature decrease is due to the fact in order to enable Core Boots, the developer had to enable C6 states as well allowing the processor cores to enter in deep sleep when idling. Less heat and less power consumption as well. Making more money of the investment.

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