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    • stephenw10S
      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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      Mmm, I can't really advise you there. 😉

      Qotom have long been in our bad books for trademark abuse.

      Steve

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        bluepr0 @stephenw10
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        @stephenw10 oh wow, why is that?

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        • stephenw10S
          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
          last edited by stephenw10

          Why did they abuse our trademark? To sell more hardware without contributing in any way to the project I would guess.

          I can't advise you to buy from them as it directly conflicts with Netgate's interests and they pay me so I can eat! ☺

          I rather see you buy a second hand Watchguard box really. But I have weakness in that area. 😉

          I'm sure someone else can let you know if either of those would be suitable, there are many people running them.

          Steve

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            bluepr0 @stephenw10
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            @stephenw10 oh I didn't know, I don't feel comfortable buying from such a company now. Will see what else is around, thanks!

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              bluepr0 @stephenw10
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              @stephenw10 that being said, if I would be interested in the SG-3100 where I could get numbers regarding routing speeds without anything installed, with OpenVPN, with Suricata, etc, etc?

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              • stephenw10S
                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                On the SG-3100 I have here which is configure in quite a complex way I see close to Gigabit with firewall+NAT using iperf3. >900Mbps. ~100Mbps OpenVPN and ~300Mbps IPSec using AES-128+SHA1.
                Numbers can vary wildly using Snort/Suricata depending on what rules you have loaded and the detection tuning. However with a fairly default Suricata install on WAN I see 750-800Mbps.

                Those are all tests with iperf3 so TCP with 1500B packets.

                Steve

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                  bluepr0 @stephenw10
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                  @stephenw10 Thanks a lot!

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                    bluepr0 @stephenw10
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                    @stephenw10 so I really wanted to buy Netgate product but the price in Spain is just insane honestly. Got a quote from one of the resellers: 500€ + Shipping (around 520€) for the SG-3100

                    That's more or less around 600$ for a product that costs 349$ in the official online store.

                    I will really need to look up for other options sadly :(

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                    • stephenw10S
                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                      Well we appreciate you trying to go that route even if it eventually proved impossible.

                      Steve

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                      • jahonixJ
                        jahonix @bluepr0
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                        @bluepr0 said in Returning user needs a new pfSense box!:

                        Got a quote from one of the resellers: 500€ + Shipping (around 520€) for the SG-3100

                        Don't know where you looked ... but since we're all EU you could easily order from https://www.voleatech.de/de/produkt/sg-3100/ for:
                        € 415,31 (€ 349,00 excl. 19% VAT)
                        Shipping to Spain shouldn't add too much to that, € 20 - 30 maybe, unless you need UPS Express morning delivery.

                        If you (your company) has a valid EU-VAT-ID you get it for € 349,00 + s&h which seems fair.

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                          bluepr0 @jahonix
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                          @jahonix thanks for the info! That's WAY more reasonable... I'm looking at virtualization now so might put this on hold for now.

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                          • RicoR
                            Rico LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance
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                            I can also recommend voleatech, ordered 8 Netgate devices so far (more coming soon) and everything was smooth.

                            -Rico

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                              bluepr0
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                              Hello!

                              I thought I should update this thread on what I've finally settled after trying a few different routes.

                              • First I tried to go the official way, which ended up being super expensive if you live in Spain. There's some more accesible options on Germany through Voleatech but still quite a bit with the power you get. Don't get me wrong, this would be the perfect option if this was a mission critical equipment, but this is just for my home network.

                              • Then I tried going the virtualisation route but I found some problems and/or limitations with KVM when trying to route gigabit speeds. I'm currently on 500/500 but pretty sure in a few years from now we will have 1000/1000 as my ISP has been almost duplicating speed between 2-3 years. Not so future-proof. Also was a bit of a pain in the ass if I had to do stuff on the server that my internet will be also off.

                              • And finally arrived to what I think it will be the perfect solution, yes you guessed it: bare-metal installation. I had lying around a cheap PC I built last year for my crypto miner project: Asus prime z270-p + Intel G4400 + 4gb RAM (that was around 160€ new). I'm going to add a SF450 PSU, SSD next week but already got the Intel i350-t4. Power consumption currently is around 28w on idle and 35 when routing gigabit with ntop, suricata, pfBlockerNG and a few more). Should be a bit less when I receive the SSD, currently is on HDD.

                              Hope this could be helpful for someone else looking at build its own pfSense box. I will update with final numbers once I've all in place. Maybe even some pics!

                              Thanks :)

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