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    • stephenw10S
      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
      last edited by

      A "DNS from LAN to pfsense" rule should allow that though.

      Steve

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      • EveningStarNME
        EveningStarNM @stephenw10
        last edited by

        @stephenw10 Yes, I thought that, too, and I tried it, but it didn't work. In fact, I tried opening up everything between pfsense and LAN, yet still no joy. But thanks for that observation about how Unbound works in supporting DNSSec. I think you're right: That's probably what caused the problem.

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          4o4rh @EveningStarNM
          last edited by 4o4rh

          @eveningstarnm did you ever get the solution to this? I have in production at home, and on the whole the dns works but i have just discovered this same problem with the download-c.huawei.com in debug logging, i can see the request from the client and the requests resolves on the server correctly. also from the pfsense diag screen. however, on a win10 machine, i receive DNS Request timeout, timeout was 2sec.

          the machine originally had comodo dns servers set, but they are trapped and redirected on pfsense.
          nevertheless, i change the dns to on the client to pfsense and it makes no difference.

          p.s. i might add, if i switch DNS Query Forwarding on. it works.

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          • johnpozJ
            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
            last edited by johnpoz

            What a cluster of cnames

            ;; QUESTION SECTION:
            ;download-c.huawei.com.         IN      A
            
            ;; ANSWER SECTION:
            download-c.huawei.com.  3598    IN      CNAME   download-c.huawei.com.c.cdnhwc1.com.
            download-c.huawei.com.c.cdnhwc1.com. 3600 IN CNAME download-c.huawei.com.wscdns.com.
            download-c.huawei.com.wscdns.com. 3600 IN CNAME dp6opavwln80.cloudfront.net.
            

            But not having any problems resolving that with unbound

            They have a HUGE mess!!
            http://dnsviz.net/d/download-c.huawei.com/dnssec/

            0_1551617424186_mess.png

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              4o4rh
              last edited by 4o4rh

              like i said, if i use dns lookup on the pfsense fiag box, it resolve per yours. (both with/without forwarding)
              Only the client side, it resolves with forwarding and does not without forwarding..i am using unbound

              very strange indeed..... hence the original poster's Weird DNS Problem - but he didn't write how he solved it

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              • johnpozJ
                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                last edited by johnpoz

                That resolves just fine on my win 10 box.. My guess is their nonsense with no glue for their IPv6 and your trying to access via IPv6? Their DNS is freaking HORRIBLE!!! That anyone can get there is just freaking amazing ;)

                even going through pihole

                $ nslookup download-c.huawei.com
                Server:  pi-hole.local.lan
                Address:  192.168.3.10
                
                Non-authoritative answer:
                Name:    dp6opavwln80.cloudfront.net
                Addresses:  99.84.240.136
                          99.84.240.45
                          99.84.240.175
                          99.84.240.78
                Aliases:  download-c.huawei.com
                          download-c.huawei.com.c.cdnhwc1.com
                          download-c.huawei.com.wscdns.com
                
                

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                  4o4rh @johnpoz
                  last edited by

                  @johnpoz i have IPv6 disabled on everything inc my clients

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                  • johnpozJ
                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                    last edited by johnpoz

                    so do either a debug on nslookp or grab dig and do a trace and see what is failing or just getting there?

                    If I click what you posted I get

                    Welcome to nginx!
                    
                    If you see this page, the nginx web server is successfully installed and working. Further configuration is required.
                    
                    For online documentation and support please refer to nginx.org.
                    Commercial support is available at nginx.com.
                    
                    Thank you for using nginx.
                    

                    So have no idea what you think is suppose to be there or what is suppose to get there?

                    edit:
                    Not sure what his issue was.. He rule to any to wan wouldn't of even allowed internet at all, etc. His domain resolved just fine as well - but again a nightmare of errors... cname mess as well

                    Maybe he had qminimization on? Have no idea with the lack of info given.

                    If pfsense resolves it fine, and client asks pfsense then pfsense will hand to client what it got... If you want help in finding your issue going to have to give a bit more than client can not resolve.. For all we know your clients using some proxy, etc. Do you get a time out from pfsense? Do you get a NX, etc. etc..

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                    • stephenw10S
                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                      last edited by

                      Ha, seems legit! 🙄

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                      • johnpozJ
                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                        last edited by johnpoz

                        Yeah that any legit company would have such a NIGHTMARE MESS for their dns is just SAD!!!

                        But it does resolve - so without some more info.. there is nothing can tell you. On what your actual issue might or might not be?

                        You sure your pointing pfsense to itself.. See it all the time where clients point pfsense to some external when they are running resolver.. When you resolve you might have issue resolving if you can not actually talk to the NS for the domain, and with so many cnames your going to have to talk to many NS ;) failure or time out to any one of them in that chain could cause you grief in resolving.

                        Do a simple +trace to see where you might be having issue.

                        Here is trace - but its only 1st leg, since there are 2 more cnames!! Arrrggh

                        $ dig download-c.huawei.com +trace                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                           
                        ; <<>> DiG 9.12.3-P1 <<>> download-c.huawei.com +trace                                                             
                        ;; global options: +cmd                                                                                            
                        .                       450361  IN      NS      d.root-servers.net.                                                
                        .                       450361  IN      NS      k.root-servers.net.                                                
                        .                       450361  IN      NS      j.root-servers.net.                                                
                        .                       450361  IN      NS      l.root-servers.net.                                                
                        .                       450361  IN      NS      c.root-servers.net.                                                
                        .                       450361  IN      NS      f.root-servers.net.                                                
                        .                       450361  IN      NS      a.root-servers.net.                                                
                        .                       450361  IN      NS      i.root-servers.net.                                                
                        .                       450361  IN      NS      e.root-servers.net.                                                
                        .                       450361  IN      NS      m.root-servers.net.                                                
                        .                       450361  IN      NS      h.root-servers.net.                                                
                        .                       450361  IN      NS      g.root-servers.net.                                                
                        .                       450361  IN      NS      b.root-servers.net.                                                
                        .                       450361  IN      RRSIG   NS 8 0 518400 20190315140000 20190302130000 16749 . ShqK2j6F+OJAQI+
                        sTMG6oms moskB4VtcKYv+CwtAxmuWDnVAVJz35hcj4rkdXBv6Wz423JmuesZsl4j SUMl4xFUT42faNiHG/OZybi+uxwXSggIrQHhM9kg9WlamZ+Y+
                        5/i+ifoWJGMUZOXp0SIkJJGXHeFI2P2 vfReHTB6/QUQNMFPHGjMhvM37AFruXs0vktZWZ9aAjj+uXvA0kvgZYIO SKcRsbULeCQNlnvSncTZFCM+YE
                        phwQ==                                                                                                             
                        ;; Received 525 bytes from 192.168.3.10#53(192.168.3.10) in 3 ms                                                   
                                                                                                                                           
                        com.                    172800  IN      NS      a.gtld-servers.net.                                                
                        com.                    172800  IN      NS      b.gtld-servers.net.                                                
                        com.                    172800  IN      NS      c.gtld-servers.net.                                                
                        com.                    172800  IN      NS      d.gtld-servers.net.                                                
                        com.                    172800  IN      NS      e.gtld-servers.net.                                                
                        com.                    172800  IN      NS      f.gtld-servers.net.                                                
                        com.                    172800  IN      NS      g.gtld-servers.net.                                                
                        com.                    172800  IN      NS      h.gtld-servers.net.                                                
                        com.                    172800  IN      NS      i.gtld-servers.net.                                                
                        com.                    172800  IN      NS      j.gtld-servers.net.                                                
                        com.                    172800  IN      NS      k.gtld-servers.net.                                                
                        com.                    172800  IN      NS      l.gtld-servers.net.                                                
                        com.                    172800  IN      NS      m.gtld-servers.net.                                                
                        com.                    86400   IN      DS      30909 8 2 E2D3C916F6DEEAC73294E8268FB5885044A833FC5459588F4A9184CF 
                        com.                    86400   IN      RRSIG   DS 8 1 86400 20190316050000 20190303040000 16749 . FqDz8iA8R/26+mJO
                        5vVsdnr XEiNTUA+aO8xsAEzNfctse3SY7XLmTnMI4o/YgL4cfwLnQeUR+7fF1qj +pUvL5H+qXk3NRRWFkDhtYoaBEo4Vgg9yjZN2bSWThBelY/QD5
                        yWzrR5yLJfknD9OhewaHp120kCWxkn m0YnRtiZ0xUjlNm1IcmAv9CuliXTyMCTU41VqCFXfjFIoKRyVnEIMUos Q+wJ9gk1XRM4LUI3T+1+Jcobftk
                        3pA==                                                                                                              
                        ;; Received 1181 bytes from 198.97.190.53#53(h.root-servers.net) in 35 ms                                          
                                                                                                                                           
                        huawei.com.             172800  IN      NS      nsallsec.huawei.com.                                               
                        huawei.com.             172800  IN      NS      nsall.huawei.com.                                                  
                        huawei.com.             172800  IN      NS      nsall3rd.huawei.com.                                               
                        huawei.com.             172800  IN      NS      nsall4th.huawei.com.                                               
                        CK0POJMG874LJREF7EFN8430QVIT8BSM.com. 86400 IN NSEC3 1 1 0 - CK0Q1GIN43N1ARRC9OSM6QPQR81H5M9A NS SOA RRSIG DNSKEY N
                        CK0POJMG874LJREF7EFN8430QVIT8BSM.com. 86400 IN RRSIG NSEC3 8 2 86400 20190308054542 20190301043542 16883 com. FgR1J
                        rnGB/qZQvAwOFwglFi sfO86z794cvm/6B4zzRDMFDLJKvhPyvYblmRCUCj2iMgZVksTqxDYbGR 2/2MFK9HwQpGr79itYpKMexrS1duvbogm/xNgiL
                        96PTCKH6PDT3DG589UG3MN0NA6LG5MTJ.com. 86400 IN NSEC3 1 1 0 - 96PU6P2QEB574VGKGIUQGM47GT2D04SQ NS DS RRSIG          
                        96PTCKH6PDT3DG589UG3MN0NA6LG5MTJ.com. 86400 IN RRSIG NSEC3 8 2 86400 20190309063008 20190302052008 16883 com. g36Vi
                        BL3b29EVq9rNyutbGT qdpfOBgD5JHsZHDf76qb0cKd7p+nzjee2UAFhd0Z5EgvRUv+3s0PM6qq evdbQx4tQA56b6NwLqipwe7SUduKpIhqAF7P0CY
                        ;; Received 720 bytes from 192.35.51.30#53(f.gtld-servers.net) in 30 ms                                            
                                                                                                                                           
                        download-c.huawei.com.  600     IN      CNAME   download-c.huawei.com.c.cdnhwc1.com.                               
                        ;; Received 96 bytes from 122.96.104.66#53(nsall4th.huawei.com) in 255 ms                                          
                                                                                                           
                        

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                          4o4rh
                          last edited by

                          the huawei site is the download site for their windows application that HiSuite that connects their phones.

                          this is what i get on my linux client, with DNS forwarding enabled.

                          nslookup download-c.huawei.com
                          Server:		127.0.0.53
                          Address:	127.0.0.53#53
                          
                          Non-authoritative answer:
                          download-c.huawei.com	canonical name = download-c.huawei.com.c.cdnhwc1.com.
                          download-c.huawei.com.c.cdnhwc1.com	canonical name = download-c.huawei.com.wscdns.com.
                          download-c.huawei.com.wscdns.com	canonical name = dp6opavwln80.cloudfront.net.
                          Name:	dp6opavwln80.cloudfront.net
                          Address: 143.204.208.172
                          Name:	dp6opavwln80.cloudfront.net
                          Address: 143.204.208.221
                          Name:	dp6opavwln80.cloudfront.net
                          Address: 143.204.208.117
                          Name:	dp6opavwln80.cloudfront.net
                          Address: 143.204.208.36
                          

                          this is what i get, if i uncheck DNS forwarding and no other changes.

                          nslookup download-c.huawei.com
                          ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
                          

                          to be clear, with forwarding unchecked, straight after the previous nslookup, i do a google and is ok.

                          nslookup google.com
                          Server:		127.0.0.53
                          Address:	127.0.0.53#53
                          
                          Non-authoritative answer:
                          Name:	google.com
                          Address: 172.217.17.110
                          Name:	google.com
                          Address: 2a00:1450:400e:806::200e
                          
                          
                          
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                            4o4rh
                            last edited by 4o4rh

                            @johnpoz said in [SOLVED] Weird DNS Problem:

                            dig download-c.huawei.com +trace

                            using your command, this is what i get with forwarding unchecked

                            dig download-c.huawei.com +trace
                            
                            ; <<>> DiG 9.11.3-1ubuntu1.5-Ubuntu <<>> download-c.huawei.com +trace
                            ;; global options: +cmd
                            ;; Received 28 bytes from 127.0.0.53#53(127.0.0.53) in 0 m
                            

                            this is the result with forwarding checked, and i note the result is the same.

                            dig download-c.huawei.com +trace
                            
                            ; <<>> DiG 9.11.3-1ubuntu1.5-Ubuntu <<>> download-c.huawei.com +trace
                            ;; global options: +cmd
                            ;; Received 28 bytes from 127.0.0.53#53(127.0.0.53) in 0
                            

                            probably need some help from you with the commands, to do any deeper analysis. but seems very odd to me, that the nslookup fails simply by changing the forwarding mode

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                            • stephenw10S
                              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                              last edited by

                              You seem to be testing against localhost. What do you have running on the client? How is that configured?

                              What do you see if you test against the pfSense interface IP?

                              Steve

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                                4o4rh
                                last edited by 4o4rh

                                that is what it returns. both the windows and linux clients are DHCP with the gateway pointing to the LAN interface address. for the DNS, the linux points to the LAN interface address and for windows, it has static comodo firewall servers defined.

                                on the pfsense box

                                NAT is
                                LAN UDP * * !LOCAL DNS 127.0.0.1 DNS
                                ** it didn't work at all when i used the LAN interface for the NAT IP. It only works if i use 127

                                Rules are
                                IPv4 TCP/UDP LAN * This Firewall DNS, VPN Gateway
                                ** if i change the gateway to default, the results are the same

                                the only thing strange i notice on the windows client, (forwarding enabled)

                                nslookup download-c.huawei.com
                                Server:  UnKnown
                                Address:  156.154.70.22
                                
                                Non-authoritative answer:
                                Name:    dp6opavwln80.cloudfront.net
                                Addresses:  143.204.98.14
                                          143.204.98.132
                                          143.204.98.156
                                          143.204.98.173
                                Aliases:  download-c.huawei.com
                                          download-c.huawei.com.c.cdnhwc1.com
                                          download-c.huawei.com.wscdns.com
                                

                                forwarding disabled

                                nslookup download-c.huawei.com
                                DNS request timed out.
                                    timeout was 2 seconds.
                                Server:  UnKnown
                                Address:  156.154.70.22
                                
                                DNS request timed out.
                                    timeout was 2 seconds.
                                DNS request timed out.
                                    timeout was 2 seconds.
                                DNS request timed out.
                                    timeout was 2 seconds.
                                *** Request to UnKnown timed-out
                                

                                in both cases, windows says server unknown...not sure if that is normal

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                                  4o4rh
                                  last edited by

                                  @johnpoz said in [SOLVED] Weird DNS Problem:

                                  Server: pi-hole.local.lan
                                  I see in John's windows lookup above, he gets Server: pi-hole.local.lan returned, where as mine is unknown.

                                  could it be something wrong, with my NAT or Rules above?

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                                  • stephenw10S
                                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                    last edited by

                                    Well try dig @pfSense_interface and see how that changes between modes.

                                    Steve

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                                      4o4rh
                                      last edited by

                                      this is from forwarding enabled

                                      dig @192.168.20.5
                                      
                                      ; <<>> DiG 9.11.3-1ubuntu1.5-Ubuntu <<>> @192.168.20.5
                                      ; (1 server found)
                                      ;; global options: +cmd
                                      ;; Got answer:
                                      ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 20423
                                      ;; flags: qr rd ra ad; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 13, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1
                                      
                                      ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
                                      ; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 4096
                                      ;; QUESTION SECTION:
                                      ;.				IN	NS
                                      
                                      ;; ANSWER SECTION:
                                      .			463269	IN	NS	a.root-servers.net.
                                      .			463269	IN	NS	e.root-servers.net.
                                      .			463269	IN	NS	l.root-servers.net.
                                      .			463269	IN	NS	i.root-servers.net.
                                      .			463269	IN	NS	j.root-servers.net.
                                      .			463269	IN	NS	c.root-servers.net.
                                      .			463269	IN	NS	k.root-servers.net.
                                      .			463269	IN	NS	b.root-servers.net.
                                      .			463269	IN	NS	m.root-servers.net.
                                      .			463269	IN	NS	d.root-servers.net.
                                      .			463269	IN	NS	h.root-servers.net.
                                      .			463269	IN	NS	g.root-servers.net.
                                      .			463269	IN	NS	f.root-servers.net.
                                      
                                      ;; Query time: 169 msec
                                      ;; SERVER: 192.168.20.5#53(192.168.20.5)
                                      ;; WHEN: Sun Mar 03 19:15:54 CET 2019
                                      ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 239
                                      

                                      this is forwarding disabled.

                                      $ nslookup download-c.huawei.com
                                      ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
                                      
                                      $ dig @192.168.20.5
                                      
                                      ; <<>> DiG 9.11.3-1ubuntu1.5-Ubuntu <<>> @192.168.20.5
                                      ; (1 server found)
                                      ;; global options: +cmd
                                      ;; Got answer:
                                      ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 12658
                                      ;; flags: qr rd ra ad; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 13, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1
                                      
                                      ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
                                      ; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 4096
                                      ;; QUESTION SECTION:
                                      ;.				IN	NS
                                      
                                      ;; ANSWER SECTION:
                                      .			518383	IN	NS	a.root-servers.net.
                                      .			518383	IN	NS	b.root-servers.net.
                                      .			518383	IN	NS	c.root-servers.net.
                                      .			518383	IN	NS	d.root-servers.net.
                                      .			518383	IN	NS	e.root-servers.net.
                                      .			518383	IN	NS	f.root-servers.net.
                                      .			518383	IN	NS	g.root-servers.net.
                                      .			518383	IN	NS	h.root-servers.net.
                                      .			518383	IN	NS	i.root-servers.net.
                                      .			518383	IN	NS	j.root-servers.net.
                                      .			518383	IN	NS	k.root-servers.net.
                                      .			518383	IN	NS	l.root-servers.net.
                                      .			518383	IN	NS	m.root-servers.net.
                                      
                                      ;; Query time: 3 msec
                                      ;; SERVER: 192.168.20.5#53(192.168.20.5)
                                      ;; WHEN: Sun Mar 03 19:18:05 CET 2019
                                      ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 239
                                      
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                                      • stephenw10S
                                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                        last edited by

                                        Sorry I meant to imply: dig @192.168.20.5 download-c.huawei.com

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                                          4o4rh @stephenw10
                                          last edited by

                                          @stephenw10 said in [SOLVED] Weird DNS Problem:

                                          dig @192.168.20.5 download-c.huawei.com

                                          of course, sorry...brain-dead

                                          forwarding enabled

                                          dig @192.168.20.5 download-c.huawei.com
                                          
                                          ; <<>> DiG 9.11.3-1ubuntu1.5-Ubuntu <<>> @192.168.20.5 download-c.huawei.com
                                          ; (1 server found)
                                          ;; global options: +cmd
                                          ;; Got answer:
                                          ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 36586
                                          ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 7, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1
                                          
                                          ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
                                          ; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 4096
                                          ;; QUESTION SECTION:
                                          ;download-c.huawei.com.		IN	A
                                          
                                          ;; ANSWER SECTION:
                                          download-c.huawei.com.	586	IN	CNAME	download-c.huawei.com.c.cdnhwc1.com.
                                          download-c.huawei.com.c.cdnhwc1.com. 50	IN CNAME download-c.huawei.com.wscdns.com.
                                          download-c.huawei.com.wscdns.com. 590 IN CNAME	dp6opavwln80.cloudfront.net.
                                          dp6opavwln80.cloudfront.net. 50	IN	A	143.204.98.173
                                          dp6opavwln80.cloudfront.net. 50	IN	A	143.204.98.14
                                          dp6opavwln80.cloudfront.net. 50	IN	A	143.204.98.132
                                          dp6opavwln80.cloudfront.net. 50	IN	A	143.204.98.156
                                          
                                          ;; Query time: 2 msec
                                          ;; SERVER: 192.168.20.5#53(192.168.20.5)
                                          ;; WHEN: Sun Mar 03 19:28:10 CET 2019
                                          ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 244
                                          

                                          forwarding disabled

                                          dig @192.168.20.5 download-c.huawei.com
                                          
                                          ; <<>> DiG 9.11.3-1ubuntu1.5-Ubuntu <<>> @192.168.20.5 download-c.huawei.com
                                          ; (1 server found)
                                          ;; global options: +cmd
                                          ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
                                          
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                                          • stephenw10S
                                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                            last edited by

                                            Mmm, well that's fun!

                                            Check the Unbound logs when that fails. Might need to turn up the logging.
                                            Do you see any DNS traffic blocked anywhere?

                                            Steve

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