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    Is a sg-3100 what I need?

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      syl
      last edited by syl

      Internet speeds are like 250Mbs here so sounds like either the 1100 or the 3100 would work.

      As far as the unmanaged switch it’s simply a cost factor for me. I do not need anything other than a “splitter” to multiple devices basically. More than likely most of the ports would be inactive, but my house has about 18 drops in various rooms that I would just rather have connected.

      I’m not a networking guy so it’s possible I’m mixing up the terms. Amazon has numerous 24 port unmanaged switches..

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      • johnpozJ
        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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        And then tmrw your going to want to isolate X from Y, etc.

        I can understand a budget issues - find yourself a nice "smart" switch off ebay for your budget.. You can for sure just use it as dumb switch today... But tmrw when you need to create a vlan you will be able to.

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          syl @johnpoz
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          @johnpoz Yeah, I thought about that. I was just trying to cut cost. I need a new tv, an Apple TV, a generac to power my house as I have numerous outages, my kid needs braces, etc..etc..etc..etc

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          • johnpozJ
            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
            last edited by johnpoz

            We all know budgets... We Get it... But really just find a smart one of ebay if you have to save a few bucks..

            I would love to have 10ge everywhere - but "budget" doesn't allow :( But just because you need "ports" doesn't mean you should get dumb ports. If your moving into the power of a real router like pfsense, at some not too future point your going to wish you had spend the couple of extra bucks and gotten a smart switch.

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              syl @johnpoz
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              @johnpoz I’ll give it a look. I really just have that one device I need to isolate though. The only reason I’m even doing that is because that is a dedicated work machine. I can’t think of any reason I would isolate anything else.

              Crap... ok.. you’re starting to convince me..

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              • chrismacmahonC
                chrismacmahon
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                If a geek gets a vlan capable router, he's going to want a vlan capable switch.

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                • johnpozJ
                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                  So you have all these devices - are any of them IOT? Do you really trust them? You have anything that floods the network with multicast - pretty much any off the shelf soho shit ;) etc. etc.

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                    syl @johnpoz
                    last edited by syl

                    Not really. Most devices run off wireless. Cabled I have 2 pcs for home .. a printer.. and the one work computer i want isolated. I also have a steam appliance, a smart home hub(homeseer) and prob a few other odds and ends. I was already debating buying a managed switch however. But it was 200 more than a non managed one.

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                      syl
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                      I had to look up IOT and I’m not certain really. The only unusual thing i have going on is the smart home and I don’t like the fact that the amazon echo has to go out to the internet to talk to my internal hub sitting 20’ from it. I have various light switches all connected to homeseer that is controlled via Alexa.

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                        syl
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                        I will prob end up with the managed switch route. You guys are right in that I don’t really have a need for it now(that I’m aware of at least), but I might as well fork over the cash than having to buy one in the future. I was holding out as I figured if i installed cameras too then I would need a separate more expensive switch supporting POE. All of my smart home devices are wireless at this time except the hub and echo. I just can;t think of anything I would want to isolate other than that one computer since all the other devices are isolated to some degree being served over WiFi. Obviously I’m not a network admin however..

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                        • stephenw10S
                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                          last edited by stephenw10

                          For $200 (US?) total I expect to be able to get a pretty decent 24 port managed switch second hand. Maybe even with PoE.

                          What you probably will get with that though is higher power consumption. But you'd probably have to run a new switch for decades to make that back.

                          5mins on ebay brings up stuff that.... I'm actually considering buying. 😉

                          Steve

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                          • johnpozJ
                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                            last edited by johnpoz

                            For $200 you could get a cisco sg350.. 28 ports.. Its on amazon for like $180 currently NEW!

                            On ebay your in the $50 budget for 24 port smart switch, etc.

                            If all your devices are wireless - WTF you need a 24 port switch for? ;)

                            If your going to put in lots of cameras and multiple AP then ok poe switch might make sense... But if your talking a handful of them, then you can just use poe injectors.. Especially if your on a budget - because poe switches going to cost you more.

                            BTW - now as stated that you have a vlan capable router, your going to want vlan capable switch - and goes along with that vlan capable APs ;)

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                            • stephenw10S
                              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                              last edited by

                              @johnpoz said in Is a sg-3100 what I need?:

                              BTW - now as stated that you have a vlan capable router, your going to want vlan capable switch - and goes along with that vlan capable APs ;)

                              Ha. It's a slippery slope! 😉

                              Not in any way vouching for this device or seller but I'm told I'm not allowed to buy any more second hand switches so...

                              Steve

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                              • DerelictD
                                Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate @stephenw10
                                last edited by Derelict

                                That is a good, stackable, PoE, gigabit switch.

                                Beware that I believe the fact that it is PoE means it is not fanless.

                                The ICX6430-24 (non-PoE) is fanless.

                                You also want to confirm if it is a 6430 or a 6450. The item description says 6430 - the description says 6450 which is a base layer 3 switch. The 6430 is not.

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