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      comet424
      last edited by

      ok found the problem well kinda...
      That Floating No WAN Egress is being applied when its not supposed to be called

      and i tried scrolling up but i cant see the settings you told me but this is what i have.. ...

      so even though no TAG is being called on any of the rules other then the 2 for 192.168.0.11

      its like the rules are calling Tag No Wan Egress by default and not when its supposed to

      floating 3.JPG floating 2.JPG Floating 1.JPG

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        comet424
        last edited by comet424

        here is that default lan settings... even though the tag is blank its still calling that floating no wan egress because if i un disable no wan egress tag under floating
        internet is blocked
        its like its being called hidden in the background
        lannet1.JPG
        lannet2.JPG
        lannet3.JPG

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          comet424
          last edited by

          here is the one ip rule that calls the tag that should only be called when vpn is down but seems to being called whenever it wants to
          block1.JPG

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            comet424
            last edited by

            so what i found is
            if i reactivate the Floating Rule No Wan EGRESS
            internet works fine..

            but if i Do a reboot of Pfsense.. then that No Wan Egresss gets automaticlly loaded by default then blocks internet

            then when i Disable Floating Rule
            i get the internet back

            then if i enable it internet seems to work fine and when i set to run VPN and then choose to disable VPN and restart it.. WAN is now 100% packet loss again
            so i re disabled the Floating Wan Egress

            it seems it loads it up like a windows service without being asked to... is there another setting to set so it doesnt do that?

            maybe something i didnt check off

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            • DerelictD
              Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
              last edited by Derelict

              Again, my suggestion is to save a backup copy of your current config and reset to defaults and start over. I really have no idea what you put where to break this and these screen captures of irrelevant data are solving nothing.

              But before you do that, just put a LEGIBLE copy of /tmp/rules.debug in a chat to me please.

              Diagnostics > Command Prompt

              Execute cat /tmp/rules.debug

              Copy / paste.
              Thanks.

              Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
              A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
              DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
              Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                comet424
                last edited by

                ugh
                well i gave you screen shots of
                -Tag No Wan Egress you told me to type
                -LAN Net Default of Pfsense
                -NordVPN 192.168.0.11 with TAG No Wan Egress

                i was showing you each break down to show you that the Tag No Wan Egreess and i didnt do anything wrong..
                and was showing you that No Wan Egress Tag gets loaded automaticlly not just when its supposed to

                but ugh reset defaults then i gotta do all the Static Ip renamings i have too didnt wanna reset.. i wanted to fix this why

                but ok ill get you the copy just a moment.. just frustrated

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                  comet424
                  last edited by

                  well you cant post rules its considered spam by your spam program forum.. i attached a text file of it hope it worksrules.txt

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                    comet424
                    last edited by

                    i didnt un gray the floating no wan egress so i dont know if that rule will show up

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                      comet424
                      last edited by comet424

                      here is rules 2.. I enabled Floating No Wan Egress and re ran that debug cat thing you told me to do... hopefully you find my error as your smarter then me at this stuff

                      rules2.txt

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                        comet424
                        last edited by comet424

                        so 5 min after i enabled the No Wan Egreess Tag under floating options to do the rules2 for you

                        i lost internet to 100 percent loss

                        so its still loading it some how

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                        • DerelictD
                          Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                          last edited by

                          What do you have set for this:

                          System > Advanced, Miscellaneous, Skip rules when gateway is down

                          Look. This stuff is extremely complicated. You really have to know exactly what you are doing to pull this kind of policy routing off. You have multiple OpenVPN clients and you want certain LAN hosts to behave one way and certain LAN hosts to behave another.

                          The NO_WAN_EGRESS rules I sent will not do ANYTHING to connections that do not originate from that source host.

                          You are refusing my suggestion of starting over from the beginning.

                          You are policy routing everything from LAN to the OpenVPN gateway. is gateway monitoring enabled there? Does the system even recognize the OpenVPN is down? If not, it will continue to send the traffic out the OpenVPN.

                          "100 percent loss" is not a trouble description. I understand you are frustrated. More details might be necessary.

                          Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                          A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                          DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                          Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                            comet424
                            last edited by

                            and sorry if the screen shots are irrevelent to the settings
                            as i been told i have to post screen shots of the settings i do.. as you guys arent willing to watch videos... and i got blasted last year for not posting screen shots of what i was doing..

                            was only trying to show you the settings i set... didnt mean to make it irrvelent.. to me they were relevent as its the stuff you told me to set..
                            sorry about that

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                            • DerelictD
                              Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                              last edited by Derelict

                              It would help if you followed my instructions exactly.

                              Derelict about 19 hours ago

                              Make a rule for that specific source host above the NORDVPN rules.

                              Make it just like the other rule, but with a source of that host address instead of LAN net, policy routing to NORDVPN.

                              Add the following advanced option:

                              Tag: NO_WAN_EGRESS

                              Make a floating rule in Firewall > Rules, Floating

                              Action: Reject
                              Quick: Checked
                              Interface: WAN
                              Direction: Out
                              Source: Any
                              Destination: Any

                              Display Advanced

                              Tagged: NO_WAN_EGRESS

                              TAG on LAN
                              TAGGED on WAN

                              The former SETS the tag
                              The latter MATCHES the tag previously set by the LAN rules.

                              Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                              A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                              DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                              Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                                comet424
                                last edited by

                                i get that t he No Wan Egree rule only to that

                                but ill make a video and prove your wrong its not doing that.. its doing it on its own cuz your not believing me..

                                and i didnt refuse of starting over.. i told you ok in the one reply i said i didnt wanna cuz thats alot of typing and figuring where all the settings god..

                                yes I got different openVPNs

                                so what i have is
                                WAN ----> Only For Game Consoles
                                NORDVPN USA for entire Network
                                NORDVPN CANADA for entire Network these 2 is when i wanna be in usa or in canada
                                OPENVPNSERVEr ---->> so i can Remote access my network from away from the home

                                and i wouldnt know if gateway monitoring enabled..

                                and ya the system knows when NordVPN goes down... either i get a email from my ISP my son did something bad which i told him to stop ... or my internet goes down and then im using my WAN IP address so it falls over

                                i only had issues because you told me i had the rules set wrong for when VPN goes down and to make sure no Internet leaking happens..

                                and then i find out now that the Floating rule seems to automaticlly load ...
                                if i disable all the rules minus that lock out rule Floating Rule No Wan Still gets loaded and 100% packet loss

                                but there is monitoring as there is a monitoring IP when i showed the Gateway images

                                but here the pics of the misc'smonitor3.JPG monitor2.JPG monitor1.JPG

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                                  comet424
                                  last edited by comet424

                                  i think i found the error on floating
                                  i put TAG NO_WAN_EGRESS

                                  not TAGGED NO_WAN_EGRESS

                                  guess thats the reason it automaticlly Blocks because i put NO_WAN_EGRESS under TAG

                                  i really hate dislexia i read Tagged as Tag... ill try that

                                  So Tag means anything on the Local Network... and TAGGED means anything going out on the internet

                                  ill re try again thank you for being patient

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                                    comet424
                                    last edited by

                                    nope didnt work

                                    having TAG No Wan EGress for the 192.168.0.11 Under NordVPN one

                                    and having TAGGED No Wan Eggress under Floating

                                    just lets the 192.168.0.11 get WAN internet instead of blocked..

                                    shouldnt the Rule be also set to TAGGED not TAG?

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                                    • DerelictD
                                      Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                                      last edited by

                                      No.

                                      TAG sets the mark. You set the mark on traffic from 192.168.0.11 when it arrives on the firewall using the LAN rule.

                                      TAGGED matches the traffic that has that mark set so you are rejecting any traffic trying to go out WAN with that tag already set. It will only be set on traffic sourced from 192.168.0.11 because that's the only source address that matches the rule that sets the tag.

                                      You must have done it wrong again or it would be working.

                                      Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                                      A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                                      DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                                      Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                                        comet424
                                        last edited by comet424

                                        NORDVPN 192.168.011 TAG No WAN EGREE
                                        nordvpn1.JPG
                                        float rule1.JPG

                                        FLOATING TAGGED: NO WAN EGREE
                                        floatA.JPG
                                        floatb.JPG

                                        im going to delete the rule and the float and re type it in

                                        i frustrated i getting frustrated yes understand its not easy but stupid dislexia is kicking me too and i like pfsense better then an asus router

                                        i appreciate the help i going to type it up again and see what happens in 30 min i need a break... wish i was in the IT field id know this program better then just only adjust when i find there a problem once a month or so.. set it and forget it kinda thing

                                        thank you for being patient with me i really appreciate it

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                                        • DerelictD
                                          Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                                          last edited by

                                          Don't touch anything.

                                          Just post /tmp/rules.debug

                                          That tells everyone everything they need to know about your rule sets.

                                          Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                                          A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                                          DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                                          Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                                            MoonKnight
                                            last edited by

                                            Hi.
                                            Go to System -> Advanced -> Miscellaneous
                                            Scroll down to: Gateway Monitoring
                                            Make sure it look like this.
                                            b206be68-8338-434d-9061-8248c772cf02-image.png

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