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    Want to Block 1IP from using Internet when VPN goes down

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    • DerelictD
      Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
      last edited by Derelict

      It would help if you followed my instructions exactly.

      Derelict about 19 hours ago

      Make a rule for that specific source host above the NORDVPN rules.

      Make it just like the other rule, but with a source of that host address instead of LAN net, policy routing to NORDVPN.

      Add the following advanced option:

      Tag: NO_WAN_EGRESS

      Make a floating rule in Firewall > Rules, Floating

      Action: Reject
      Quick: Checked
      Interface: WAN
      Direction: Out
      Source: Any
      Destination: Any

      Display Advanced

      Tagged: NO_WAN_EGRESS

      TAG on LAN
      TAGGED on WAN

      The former SETS the tag
      The latter MATCHES the tag previously set by the LAN rules.

      Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
      A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
      DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
      Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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        comet424
        last edited by

        i get that t he No Wan Egree rule only to that

        but ill make a video and prove your wrong its not doing that.. its doing it on its own cuz your not believing me..

        and i didnt refuse of starting over.. i told you ok in the one reply i said i didnt wanna cuz thats alot of typing and figuring where all the settings god..

        yes I got different openVPNs

        so what i have is
        WAN ----> Only For Game Consoles
        NORDVPN USA for entire Network
        NORDVPN CANADA for entire Network these 2 is when i wanna be in usa or in canada
        OPENVPNSERVEr ---->> so i can Remote access my network from away from the home

        and i wouldnt know if gateway monitoring enabled..

        and ya the system knows when NordVPN goes down... either i get a email from my ISP my son did something bad which i told him to stop ... or my internet goes down and then im using my WAN IP address so it falls over

        i only had issues because you told me i had the rules set wrong for when VPN goes down and to make sure no Internet leaking happens..

        and then i find out now that the Floating rule seems to automaticlly load ...
        if i disable all the rules minus that lock out rule Floating Rule No Wan Still gets loaded and 100% packet loss

        but there is monitoring as there is a monitoring IP when i showed the Gateway images

        but here the pics of the misc'smonitor3.JPG monitor2.JPG monitor1.JPG

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          comet424
          last edited by comet424

          i think i found the error on floating
          i put TAG NO_WAN_EGRESS

          not TAGGED NO_WAN_EGRESS

          guess thats the reason it automaticlly Blocks because i put NO_WAN_EGRESS under TAG

          i really hate dislexia i read Tagged as Tag... ill try that

          So Tag means anything on the Local Network... and TAGGED means anything going out on the internet

          ill re try again thank you for being patient

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            comet424
            last edited by

            nope didnt work

            having TAG No Wan EGress for the 192.168.0.11 Under NordVPN one

            and having TAGGED No Wan Eggress under Floating

            just lets the 192.168.0.11 get WAN internet instead of blocked..

            shouldnt the Rule be also set to TAGGED not TAG?

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            • DerelictD
              Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
              last edited by

              No.

              TAG sets the mark. You set the mark on traffic from 192.168.0.11 when it arrives on the firewall using the LAN rule.

              TAGGED matches the traffic that has that mark set so you are rejecting any traffic trying to go out WAN with that tag already set. It will only be set on traffic sourced from 192.168.0.11 because that's the only source address that matches the rule that sets the tag.

              You must have done it wrong again or it would be working.

              Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
              A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
              DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
              Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                comet424
                last edited by comet424

                NORDVPN 192.168.011 TAG No WAN EGREE
                nordvpn1.JPG
                float rule1.JPG

                FLOATING TAGGED: NO WAN EGREE
                floatA.JPG
                floatb.JPG

                im going to delete the rule and the float and re type it in

                i frustrated i getting frustrated yes understand its not easy but stupid dislexia is kicking me too and i like pfsense better then an asus router

                i appreciate the help i going to type it up again and see what happens in 30 min i need a break... wish i was in the IT field id know this program better then just only adjust when i find there a problem once a month or so.. set it and forget it kinda thing

                thank you for being patient with me i really appreciate it

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                • DerelictD
                  Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                  last edited by

                  Don't touch anything.

                  Just post /tmp/rules.debug

                  That tells everyone everything they need to know about your rule sets.

                  Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                  A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                  DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                  Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                    MoonKnight
                    last edited by

                    Hi.
                    Go to System -> Advanced -> Miscellaneous
                    Scroll down to: Gateway Monitoring
                    Make sure it look like this.
                    b206be68-8338-434d-9061-8248c772cf02-image.png

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                      comet424
                      last edited by

                      so for the gate monitoring yes my 2 are also unchecked

                      as for the Floating its working now.. i had disabled them then just re typed them up and the float
                      and it worked... also found i had to add a
                      another No WAN Egress for the LAN.NET when a VPN isnt enabled when i was testing it by turning it off
                      so this is working now.. doesnt help my dislexia i read like TAG as TAGGED so thats all working... i dont dare ask about how do i route the USA VPN to the USA one in the Rules and the CANADA VPN to the CAnada one.. instead of both going to the first rule... as i dont wanna frustrate you more with my questions..

                      i played with it i didnt wanna annoy you more with questions i stepped away from it a bit then re looked at it fresh eyes for setting that floating etc

                      so this is working now in this order... i wont trouble you with my other question i jsut mentioned because i dont want you mad at me... but here is a pic of rules its working so i not going to touch it... it works when i shut off the vpn or if it goes down
                      i appreciate your patience with me
                      rules1.JPG

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                      • DerelictD
                        Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                        last edited by

                        If you don't want traffic from 192.168.0.11 to go out WAN at all, why are you policy routing it out WAN?

                        Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                        A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                        DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                        Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                          comet424
                          last edited by

                          if your talking about from the picture above the 2nd from the bottom
                          i dont... but if i dont put that rule in there... and i turn off both VPN's
                          the rules skip the 2 rules below Game Consoles and goes straight to the last Line..

                          so i put rule just above it... and its TAG No WAN EGRESS so it blocks using WAN

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                            comet424
                            last edited by

                            figured that was better then saying Block 192.168.0.11 * * * in the rules
                            unless thats better then the TAG i just figured it was a better block if not ill change it

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                              comet424
                              last edited by

                              is this more proper thenblock wan.JPG

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                                comet424
                                last edited by

                                @Derelict
                                I have 1 more question if you might know..
                                the no_wan_egreess works as long as my vpn I don't check the box "Don't Pass Routes"
                                if I enable it... The IP Address I have Tag NO WAN EGRESS is automatically blocked yet should be using the VPN

                                but I notice I need to check Don't Pass Routes to get my XBOX to work bypass VPN

                                do you know how to get get the rule to work for the VPN and TAG No Wan Egress when you check "Don't Pass Routes"

                                and should I be using that check box or not... whats the difference I tried googling info but I didn't find info
                                if you have a link that explains the 2 be good too

                                but I figured I ask you about that since your very smart at this stuff

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                                  comet424
                                  last edited by

                                  so having the check mark Dont Pass Routes... still leaks dns yet i dont see it...

                                  i get email from my isp i done suspicious things but i didnt
                                  i run www.dnsleaktest.com on the 192.168.0.11 and it shows 1 server my NordVPN
                                  yet it must be leaking

                                  is there another program that runs on windows that securly checks this stuff?
                                  as this No Wan Egress isnt working
                                  least it seems to work only when "DO Not Pull Routes" is not Checked.
                                  when its checked it seems to leak or not work right

                                  is there a way to test this and i read some articles you want Do Not Pull Routes other times you do .. how do you know when

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                                  • DerelictD
                                    Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                                    last edited by

                                    I'm not sure that people appreciate how complicated what you are trying to do is.

                                    Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                                    A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                                    DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                                    Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                                      comet424
                                      last edited by

                                      sorry then ill figure out myself

                                      didnt think it was complicated for you guys just for me
                                      cuz i guess it works fine if Do not pull routes... yet XBOX doesnt work for OPen Nat
                                      and when i do check off pull routes No WAN Gress does not kick in instantly like it does when "do not pull routes " is not checked... and Xbox Works Open Nat

                                      very sorry for troubling you guys then.. i wont ask again

                                      have a good weekend

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                                      • DerelictD
                                        Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                                        last edited by

                                        It's not complicated for me. It would just take me three hours I don't have to explain it to you.

                                        You need to understand:

                                        • Policy routing and what it is and is not
                                        • The routing table and what it is and is not
                                        • What Don't pull routes actually does with your chosen VPN provider
                                        • How DNS actually works
                                        • How connections originating from the firewall itself apply in all of the above
                                        • How tagging and matching tagged in pf works

                                        I suggest watching https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lp3mtR4j3Lw

                                        Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                                        A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                                        DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                                        Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                                        • johnpozJ
                                          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                          last edited by

                                          Think you forget the 0 on your 3 there Derelict... Your 4 days in already.. ;)

                                          This is clearly simple facebook sort of post -- suggest you get your help over there since you don't seem to want to take Derelicts ;) Sure they help you out in couple of mins..

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