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    • stephenw10S
      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
      last edited by

      In addition the upnp daemon in pfSense, miniupnpd, supports IGD only. So it allows devices behind it to open firewall rules and setup port forwards like the xbox is doing.
      It does not support DLNA so won't help at all with media streaming applications.

      But as said since you only have one subnet that shouldn't be needed anyway.

      Steve

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        sharpy
        last edited by sharpy

        Thanks both of you for the replys

        yes im on a flat network / LAN

        i thought pfsense has something too do with it as it is acting as the main router

        i have managed too get some of the windows network discovery working but i'm still experiencing some issues

        upnp for my smart tv and xboxes still not working no change

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        • stephenw10S
          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
          last edited by

          Do you see anything in Status > UPNP?

          What exactly is the TV trying and failing to do? You won't see it doing anything DLNA related as I said. But if you have flat network that shouldn't matter.

          Steve

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            sharpy
            last edited by sharpy

            The smarthome controller (Openhab) uses upnp too discover the TV (Samsung) on the local network they then send information between themselfs openhab knows if the tv is on/off , volume levels ect it can also change these items

            i have had it working for a fraction of time but not since. the tv showed online on openhab so the upnp communications were sucessful but it quickly went offline and never comes back on

            Upnp Status is empty

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            • stephenw10S
              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
              last edited by

              Ok that would just be directly between those devices, pfSense would not be doing anything there. Nothing IGD related.

              The xbox could be though it doesn't always.

              I have previously used Skype for testing upnp is working but that was some versions of Skype ago. Otherwise most bit-torrent clients will open ports with upnp and you should see that in the status.

              Steve

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                sharpy
                last edited by sharpy

                Ok then i will keep looking on the devices and at the lan and post back

                i will also try a bit torrent client too see what happens and post back

                There must be something wrong with my LAN as its strange that windows network discovery is acting strange on some things and now not on others and the upnp communications if you say they both run on the local net only and have nothing too do with pfsense

                the only major thing i changed other than adding pfsense was changing alot of the ip addresses too local machines do you think this could have upset them both inside my switches? maby i should reset my switches

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                • stephenw10S
                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                  It sounds like a subnet mask mismatch somewhere, I'd check for that first.

                  Steve

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                  • johnpozJ
                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                    Did you change these IPs locally on the devices - then yeah its quite possible you have mask mismatch..

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                      sharpy
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                      They were changed on the pfsense router using dhcp static mapping

                      I have been looking for mismatched subnets but can't find anything

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                        sharpy
                        last edited by sharpy

                        Just an update here for anyone who's interested/following

                        I seem too have fixed all my issues now the only thing i need too do too finish setup is move the the xboxs from a strict nat to a open nat

                        What was the problem with the local upnp?

                        Quote from Wikipedia

                        "IGMP snooping and reliability

                        If IGMP snooping is enabled on a switch, or more commonly a wireless router/switch, it will interfere with UPnP/DLNA device discovery (SSDP) if incorrectly or incompletely configured (e.g. without an active querier or IGMP proxy), making UPnP appear unreliable.

                        Typical scenarios observed include a server or client (e.g. smart TV) appearing after power on, and then disappearing after a few minutes (often 30 by default configuration) due to IGMP group membership expiring."

                        What was wrong with Network Discovery?

                        im sorry i cant confirm what actually fixed this its been a combination of enabling different thigs and trial and error reading the net and watching videos it mainly seemed too be services stopped and features disabled (possibly from an windows update)

                        What was wrong with xbox upnp?
                        This was solved as soon as i fixed the upnp locally

                        Thanks everyone for the replys and tips it might not have seemed like it but they helped alot

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