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    Guide on how to setup Dual Wan on pfsnse 2.4.4?

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    • stephenw10S
      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
      last edited by

      The doc here should still be fine:
      https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/routing/multi-wan.html

      The only thing that has changed recently is that you can now set a failover group as the default gateway which means the DNS requirement no longer holds. But doing exactly as the guide outlines still works fine.

      Steve

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        techrama
        last edited by techrama

        please check this source which might help you how to set up dual wan on pfsnse 2..4.4
        https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-configure-dual-wan-load-balance-failover-pfsense-router/

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        • stephenw10S
          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
          last edited by

          That guide was written before the default gateway changes and misses the DNS settings:
          https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/routing/multi-wan.html#dns-considerations

          Without setting either the default gateway as a failover group or assigning DNS servers to each WAN and using forwarding mode there will be no DNS is the primary WAN fails.

          Steve

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            jason001
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            All these guides didn't help at all. still having the same issue.
            all configured.. the fail over works but can only ping websites but doesn't load pages!

            also iv tried to set defGW to Wan2 then my second router interface isnt working. 4g interface not working.png

            but if i change lan rule defGW back to "default" then my router interface works.
            4g router.png
            if i goto: interface/routing and set defGW to wan2 i can also ping websites but AGAIN CANT ACCESS the webpage. wan2 ping but no page load 2.png wan2 ping but no page load.png

            Im using a ADSL FritzBox for wan1 and 4G Huawei Router for Wan2.

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            • stephenw10S
              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
              last edited by

              So DNS works then, it looks like google.com is resolving.

              If ping works but TCP doesn't it's either an asymmetric routing issue or packet size.

              Try pinging with larger packet sizes.

              Try using the test port fucntion in pfSense (Diag) to open a tcp connection using the WAN2 source IP.

              Have you actually confirmed your WAN connection is working?

              Steve

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                jason001 @stephenw10
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                @stephenw10

                Yes my WAN1 works fine 100% My WAN2 works 100%.
                At moment im using WAN1 iv tested WAN2 directly connecting to the WIFI aslo LAN on switch.. Its something in PFSENSE..

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                • stephenw10S
                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                  last edited by

                  Ok, so like I said, try large ping packets, try test port over WAN2.

                  What is the result? If it fails, what is the error?

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                    jason001 @stephenw10
                    last edited by

                    @stephenw10 said in Guide on how to setup Dual Wan on pfsnse 2.4.4?:

                    .
                    Try using the test port fucntion in pfSense (Diag) to open a tcp connection using the WAN2 source IP

                    Iv tested all just say "successful"

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                      jason001 @stephenw10
                      last edited by jason001

                      @stephenw10 said in Guide on how to setup Dual Wan on pfsnse 2.4.4?:

                      Ok, so like I said, try large ping packets, try test port over WAN2.

                      What is the result? If it fails, what is the error?

                      Doesn't seem to give error.. just (successful) ping works.., iv tried larger ping (also work) tried test port says: successful

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                      • stephenw10S
                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                        last edited by

                        Ok. Are you using a failover group as the default gateway? If so can you test port out without setting a source when WAN1 is down?

                        We are probably going to need to see some screenshots of your config to diagnose this.

                        Steve

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                          jason001 @stephenw10
                          last edited by

                          @stephenw10 said in Guide on how to setup Dual Wan on pfsnse 2.4.4?:

                          Ok. Are you using a failover group as the default gateway? If so can you test port out without setting a source when WAN1 is down?

                          i wanted to setup a failover group but since this error i deleted it..
                          but il setup again and post screenshot

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                            jason001
                            last edited by jason001

                            This is the config i used:

                            gateway group failover config FailOver Config.png FailOver Auto.png

                            Lan rule: Lan Rule.png
                            Advance Tab.png

                            gateway:Gateway.png

                            lan detail:lan detail.png

                            wan1 detail:wan1 detail.png

                            wan2 detail:wan2 detail.png

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                            • stephenw10S
                              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                              last edited by

                              Your LAN firewall rule with the failover gateway needs to be above the default allow any rule. Right now no traffic is hitting it.

                              Steve

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                                jason001 @stephenw10
                                last edited by jason001

                                @stephenw10 said in Guide on how to setup Dual Wan on pfsnse 2.4.4?:

                                Your LAN firewall rule with the failover gateway needs to be above the default allow any rule. Right now no traffic is hitting it.
                                I Know..
                                1: If move it to the top and wan1 disconnect/fail i don't have internet.
                                wan2 ping but no page load.png

                                2: Also if i move it i cant access my router

                                4g interface not working.png

                                but if i move rule down.
                                4g router.png

                                and i have ping even if wan1 is plugged out! running only on router wan2.

                                wan2 ping but no page load 2.png

                                But again cant load pages.
                                wan2 ping but no page load.png

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                                • stephenw10S
                                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                  last edited by

                                  If that's the WAN2 router then you will need another rule above that with just that destination with no gateway set so you can access it.

                                  Without that rule above the default pass rule your traffic only ever uses the default route which looks like it's via WAN1. It needs to be there for failover to work.

                                  However it looks like you have a bigger issue with traffic using WAN2 at all. Try putting in a policy routing rule from just a single test client and routing that via the WAN2 gateway. That should work whether or not WAN1 is up so it won't disrupt other traffic while you're testing. Run a traceroute from that client to be sure it is using WAN2.

                                  Steve

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                                    jason001 @stephenw10
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                                    @stephenw10 said in Guide on how to setup Dual Wan on pfsnse 2.4.4?:

                                    If that's the WAN2 router then you will need another rule above that with just that destination with no gateway set so you can access it.

                                    Without that rule above the default pass rule your traffic only ever uses the default route which looks like it's via WAN1. It needs to be there for failover to work.

                                    However it looks like you have a bigger issue with traffic using WAN2 at all. Try putting in a policy routing rule from just a single test client and routing that via the WAN2 gateway. That should work whether or not WAN1 is up so it won't disrupt other traffic while you're testing. Run a traceroute from that client to be sure it is using WAN2.

                                    Steve
                                    tried that. doesn't work.
                                    i dont know if the router is corrupt or something but ("all steps and guides doesn't work!")

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                                    • stephenw10S
                                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                      last edited by

                                      Ok, so you policy router a client via WAN2 and it didn't work.

                                      So what exactly didn't work? Same as during failover? DNS worked and ping worked but nothing else?

                                      Can you hit the modem gui?

                                      What did the traceroute show?

                                      It could be one of those device that prevents you using another router behind it by setting a low TTL. Is it supposed to be limited to a small number of devices like, say, 5? Or 1 even?

                                      Steve

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                                        jason001
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                                        @stephenw10 said in Guide on how to setup Dual Wan on pfsnse 2.4.4?:

                                        uld be one of those device that prevents you using another router behind it by setting a low TTL. Is it supposed to be limited to a small number of devices like, say, 5? Or 1 even?

                                        did exactly the same thing.. but this time couldn't reach WAN2 GUI.. but i can ping..
                                        its a bit strange for me.. seeing other people seem to get it right.. Maybe i should just reinstall the software?

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                                        • stephenw10S
                                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                          last edited by

                                          You can try that but I don't think it will help. It behaves like some low level mismatch or limitation.

                                          Like for example the TTL limitation I mentioned. If that router only allows a limited number of clients one way they can enforce that is to prevent you using another router behind it.

                                          Steve

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