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    • johnpozJ
      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
      last edited by johnpoz

      @AlexJ8791 said in How to Reinstall Auto Config Backup:

      It's been set to NAT + Proxy in my box.

      Why? Are you using Nat reflection??

      Nat reflection shouldn't be enabled unless you have a specific need for it, and even then I would suggest you figure out why you actually would want/need reflection.. It really is an abomination if you ask me ;)

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        AlexJ8791
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        I have several web servers behind this pfsense box and without NAT Relfection they won't work correctly.
        I think there might be something else going on on this box because I have the same firewall box with the same packages installed in another location and it has no issue.

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        • johnpozJ
          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
          last edited by johnpoz

          @AlexJ8791 said in How to Reinstall Auto Config Backup:

          without NAT Relfection they won't work correctly.

          Why is that, your local devices should just resolve the local IP for whatever your public FQDN is.. There almost zero reason to ever use nat reflection, other than lack of understanding or laziness or some idiot hard coding public IPs in an app vs using a fqdn.

          Suggest you test by turning off nat reflection, and seeing if it fixes your delay in rule changes.

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            AlexJ8791
            last edited by

            There almost zero reason to ever use nat reflection, other than lack of understanding or laziness or some idiot hard coding public IPs in an app vs using a fqdn.

            There are several cases in which we have to use nat reflection. One of them is when clients on your web server want to use the famous Wordpress CMS. This application needs to able to see its public address in order to work correctly especially in Network Mode. This issue could be tackled with DNS Split but when you have hundreds of websites and your clients keep adding/removing websites on the server, it's impossible to implement this feature.
            And as I said I have the same setup in another location with no issue so I think nat reflection is not the issue.

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            • johnpozJ
              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
              last edited by johnpoz

              I would still suggest test it it out by turning it off for second, making some changes and see if they are still delayed.

              So in your log what is the time between sync firewall and reloading filter entries?

              I haven't played with wordpress in quite some time, but I have doubts that feature requires nat reflection. If I get a chance I might test this, because it makes no sense that nat reflection should be required for that to work.

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                AlexJ8791 @johnpoz
                last edited by AlexJ8791

                I would still suggest test it it out by turning it off for second, making some changes and see if they are still delayed.

                I would definitely give a shot.

                If I get a chance I might test this.

                I'd appreciate it.

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                  AlexJ8791 @johnpoz
                  last edited by

                  So in your log what is the time between sync firewall and reloading filter entries?

                  Here is the complete log entries of a rule modification :

                  Apr 16 18:12:57 fwl01 check_reload_status: Syncing firewall
                  Apr 16 18:13:10 fwl01 check_reload_status: Reloading filter
                  Apr 16 18:13:11 fwl01 php-fpm[83690]: /rc.filter_configure_sync: Not installing NAT reflection rules for a port range > 500
                  Apr 16 18:13:11 fwl01 php-fpm[83690]: /rc.filter_configure_sync: Not installing NAT reflection rules for a port range > 500
                  Apr 16 18:13:11 fwl01 php-fpm[83690]: /rc.filter_configure_sync: Not installing NAT reflection rules for a port range > 500
                  Apr 16 18:13:11 fwl01 php-fpm[83690]: /rc.filter_configure_sync: Not installing NAT reflection rules for a port range > 500
                  Apr 16 18:13:11 fwl01 php-fpm[83690]: /rc.filter_configure_sync: Not installing NAT reflection rules for a port range > 500
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 php-fpm[83690]: /rc.filter_configure_sync: Not installing NAT reflection rules for a port range > 500
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 php-fpm[83690]: /rc.filter_configure_sync: Not installing NAT reflection rules for a port range > 500
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 php-fpm[83690]: /rc.filter_configure_sync: Not installing NAT reflection rules for a port range > 500
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 php-fpm[83690]: /rc.filter_configure_sync: Not installing NAT reflection rules for a port range > 500
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 php-fpm[83690]: /rc.filter_configure_sync: Not installing NAT reflection rules for a port range > 500
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 php-fpm[83690]: /rc.filter_configure_sync: Not installing NAT reflection rules for a port range > 500
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 php-fpm[83690]: /rc.filter_configure_sync: Not installing NAT reflection rules for a port range > 500
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 php-fpm[83690]: /rc.filter_configure_sync: Not installing NAT reflection rules for a port range > 500
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 php-fpm[83690]: /rc.filter_configure_sync: Not installing NAT reflection rules for a port range > 500
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 php-fpm[83690]: /rc.filter_configure_sync: Not installing NAT reflection rules for a port range > 500
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 php-fpm[83690]: /rc.filter_configure_sync: Not installing NAT reflection rules for a port range > 500
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 php-fpm[83690]: /rc.filter_configure_sync: Not installing NAT reflection rules for a port range > 500
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 php-fpm[83690]: /rc.filter_configure_sync: Not installing NAT reflection rules for a port range > 500
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: Starting reconfiguration
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: Swapping defaults
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                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19007-udp
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                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19062-tcp
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                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19064-tcp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19065-tcp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19066-tcp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19067-tcp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19068-tcp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19069-tcp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19070-tcp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19071-tcp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19072-tcp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19073-tcp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19074-tcp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19075-tcp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19076-tcp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19077-tcp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19078-tcp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19079-tcp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19080-tcp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19081-tcp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19082-tcp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19083-tcp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19084-tcp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19085-tcp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19086-tcp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19087-tcp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19088-tcp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19089-tcp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19090-tcp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19091-tcp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19092-tcp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19093-tcp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19094-tcp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19095-tcp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19096-tcp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19097-tcp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19098-tcp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19099-tcp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19100-tcp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19101-tcp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19102-tcp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19103-tcp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19104-tcp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19105-tcp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19106-tcp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19107-tcp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19108-tcp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19109-tcp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19110-tcp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19111-tcp
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                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19113-tcp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19114-tcp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19115-tcp
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                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19211-tcp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19212-tcp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19213-tcp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19214-tcp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19215-tcp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19216-tcp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19217-tcp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19218-tcp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19157-udp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19169-udp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19177-udp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19185-udp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19200-udp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19219-tcp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19220-tcp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19221-tcp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19222-tcp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19223-tcp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19224-tcp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19225-tcp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19226-tcp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19227-tcp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19228-tcp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19229-tcp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19230-tcp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19231-tcp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19232-tcp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19233-tcp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19234-tcp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19235-tcp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19236-tcp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19237-tcp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19122-udp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19158-udp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19170-udp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19178-udp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19186-udp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19201-udp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19238-tcp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19239-tcp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19085-udp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19123-udp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19159-udp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19171-udp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19179-udp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19187-udp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19202-udp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19240-tcp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19240-udp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19086-udp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19087-udp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19109-udp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19110-udp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19119-udp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19124-udp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19125-udp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19134-udp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19135-udp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19139-udp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19140-udp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19151-udp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19152-udp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19160-udp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19161-udp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19165-udp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19172-udp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19173-udp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19180-udp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19181-udp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19188-udp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19189-udp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19193-udp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19194-udp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19203-udp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19204-udp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19211-udp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19212-udp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19241-tcp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19241-udp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19242-tcp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: readjusting service 19242-udp
                  Apr 16 18:13:12 fwl01 xinetd[63305]: Reconfigured: new=0 old=296 dropped=0 (services)

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                    AlexJ8791
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                    I've disabled NAT Reflection completely but that didn't help either.
                    Auto Conf Backup still doesn't work, even when I create a manual backup!

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                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                      last edited by johnpoz

                      @AlexJ8791 said in How to Reinstall Auto Config Backup:

                      Apr 16 18:12:57 fwl01 check_reload_status: Syncing firewall
                      Apr 16 18:13:10 fwl01 check_reload_status: Reloading filter

                      Well that looks like 13 seconds not minutes.

                      This looks like something not right

                      Apr 16 18:13:11 fwl01 php-fpm[83690]: /rc.filter_configure_sync: Not installing NAT reflection rules for a port range > 500

                      When you reload your rules.. have you looked at the monitor link to get the details of the reload
                      https://sg4860.local.lan:8443/status_filter_reload.php

                      filterreload.png

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                        AlexJ8791
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                        I've reloaded the filter and it went pretty fast but creating an alias or a rule takes a minute or sometimes two minutes.

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                          AlexJ8791
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                          I just found out that I was right and the Auto Config Backup is responsible for the delay.
                          I connected to the pfsense box via ssh and went to /conf/backup directory. Here is the content:

                          ls -l /conf/backup
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel     5137 Apr 30 19:26 backup.cache
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  8257018 Apr 19 20:00 config-1555686137.xml
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  8256968 Apr 20 18:06 config-1555746982.xml
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  8257023 Apr 20 19:00 config-1555767383.xml
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  8256966 Apr 20 19:02 config-1555770620.xml
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  8258103 Apr 22 11:49 config-1555885257.xml
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  8258105 Apr 28 17:30 config-1556446368.xml
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  8254899 Apr 28 17:31 config-1556456428.xml
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  8254649 Apr 28 17:31 config-1556456470.xml
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  8254611 Apr 28 17:33 config-1556456504.xml
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  8253544 Apr 28 17:33 config-1556456585.xml
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  8253334 Apr 28 17:35 config-1556456620.xml
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  8254458 Apr 28 17:38 config-1556456700.xml
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  8254396 Apr 30 13:32 config-1556568185.xml
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  8254624 Apr 30 13:33 config-1556614941.xml
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  8255758 Apr 30 14:00 config-1556615018.xml
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  8254395 Apr 30 18:35 config-1556627831.xml
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  8254149 Apr 30 18:55 config-1556633157.xml
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  8254148 Apr 30 18:56 config-1556634321.xml
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  8254132 Apr 30 18:57 config-1556634383.xml
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  8254178 Apr 30 18:58 config-1556634467.xml
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  8254148 Apr 30 19:02 config-1556634525.xml
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  8254153 Apr 30 19:04 config-1556634764.xml
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  8253618 Apr 30 19:04 config-1556634840.xml
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  8253089 Apr 30 19:05 config-1556634876.xml
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  8253086 Apr 30 19:06 config-1556634927.xml
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  8253107 Apr 30 19:07 config-1556634973.xml
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  8253598 Apr 30 19:09 config-1556635023.xml
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  8253601 Apr 30 19:17 config-1556635143.xml
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  8253797 Apr 30 19:17 config-1556635630.xml
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  8254925 Apr 30 19:26 config-1556635674.xml

                          At the end of the list is the latest backup file even though the module is NOT enabled for weeks!
                          I made a change to a NAT rule and clicked save and ran ls -l several times:

                          ls -l /conf/backup
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel     5137 Apr 30 19:26 backup.cache
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  8257018 Apr 19 20:00 config-1555686137.xml
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  8256968 Apr 20 18:06 config-1555746982.xml
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  8257023 Apr 20 19:00 config-1555767383.xml
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  8256966 Apr 20 19:02 config-1555770620.xml
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  8258103 Apr 22 11:49 config-1555885257.xml
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  8258105 Apr 28 17:30 config-1556446368.xml
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  8254899 Apr 28 17:31 config-1556456428.xml
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  8254649 Apr 28 17:31 config-1556456470.xml
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  8254611 Apr 28 17:33 config-1556456504.xml
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  8253544 Apr 28 17:33 config-1556456585.xml
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  8253334 Apr 28 17:35 config-1556456620.xml
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  8254458 Apr 28 17:38 config-1556456700.xml
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  8254396 Apr 30 13:32 config-1556568185.xml
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  8254624 Apr 30 13:33 config-1556614941.xml
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  8255758 Apr 30 14:00 config-1556615018.xml
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  8254395 Apr 30 18:35 config-1556627831.xml
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  8254149 Apr 30 18:55 config-1556633157.xml
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  8254148 Apr 30 18:56 config-1556634321.xml
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  8254132 Apr 30 18:57 config-1556634383.xml
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  8254178 Apr 30 18:58 config-1556634467.xml
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  8254148 Apr 30 19:02 config-1556634525.xml
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  8254153 Apr 30 19:04 config-1556634764.xml
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  8253618 Apr 30 19:04 config-1556634840.xml
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  8253089 Apr 30 19:05 config-1556634876.xml
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  8253086 Apr 30 19:06 config-1556634927.xml
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  8253107 Apr 30 19:07 config-1556634973.xml
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  8253598 Apr 30 19:09 config-1556635023.xml
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  8253601 Apr 30 19:17 config-1556635143.xml
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  8253797 Apr 30 19:17 config-1556635630.xml
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  8254925 Apr 30 19:26 config-1556635674.xml

#ls -l config-1556636179.xml
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  1032192 Apr 30 19:35 config-1556636179.xml

#ls -l config-1556636179.xml
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  3252224 Apr 30 19:35 config-1556636179.xml

#ls -l config-1556636179.xml
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  5324800 Apr 30 19:35 config-1556636179.xml

#ls -l config-1556636179.xml
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  7839744 Apr 30 19:35 config-1556636179.xml

#ls -l config-1556636179.xml
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  8254898 Apr 30 19:35 config-1556636179.xml

                          as you can see the size of the file is changing and it took almost a minute to finish and when it did the page finished loading too!

                          I also enabled the backup module and created a manual backup too but when I tried to download the backup it said :

                          The following input errors were detected:
                          Could not decrypt config.xml

                          So, what do you think?

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                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                            last edited by johnpoz

                            those are not the auto backup feature... That is this
                            https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/config/configuration-history.html

                            Defaults to 30..

                            yours are HUGE!

                            in comparison here is mine size.

                            [2.4.4-RELEASE][admin@sg4860.local.lan]/conf/backup: ls -la
total 8656
drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel    1536 Apr 30 08:25 .
drwxr-xr-x  4 root  wheel    2048 Apr 30 08:25 ..
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel    5078 Apr 30 08:25 backup.cache
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  293608 Apr 23 05:20 config-1556014722.xml
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  293608 Apr 23 05:23 config-1556014836.xml
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  293608 Apr 23 05:32 config-1556015021.xml

                            So mine are KB yours are MB.. your are like 32X mine.. So yeah might take a bit to write those.

                            Change it from the default 30 to 0, and see if your changes are faster ;)

                            edit:

                            The following input errors were detected:
                            Could not decrypt config.xml

                            Yeah I would prob look into that - that doesn't seem good.

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                              AlexJ8791 @johnpoz
                              last edited by AlexJ8791

                              @johnpoz said in Auto Config Backup Issue:

                              those are not the auto backup feature... That is this
                              https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/config/configuration-history.html

                              Yes, you were right. I just checked my other pfsense box and it's less than 1MB!!!
                              I've downloaded one of the backup files and there is a section for rrdata which is a big part of the file and without it the backup file will be less than a megabyte.
                              Is there any way to exclude rrdata from being included in the config history?

                              Change it from the default 30 to 0, and see if your changes are faster ;)

                              How can I do that?

                              Yeah I would prob look into that - that doesn't seem good.

                              I don't know where to start...

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                                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                                RRD shouldn't really be in the auto config data that I could think of - it should just be yoru config changes.

                                Like new firewall rule, etc.

                                How to change it is listed in the link I posted..
                                set0.png

                                As to where to start on why your seeing that error... Prob start a new thread with those specific details... When you try a do download of backup you get this error -- screenshot of the actual error when and where your doing your backup... Like are you having it include data or not, etc.

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                                  AlexJ8791
                                  last edited by AlexJ8791

                                  I did change the Backup Count to 0 but it didn't help!
                                  When I edit/create a rule it actually creates the backup first and then removes it according to the backup count 0.

                                  After setting Backup Count to 0 :

                                  #ls -l
total 4
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  6 Apr 30 22:36 backup.cache

                                  While creating a NAT rule:

                                  #ls -l
total 3236
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel        6 Apr 30 22:36 backup.cache
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  3252224 Apr 30 22:36 config-1556647551.xml

#ls -l
total 4324
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel        6 Apr 30 22:36 backup.cache
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  4390912 Apr 30 22:36 config-1556647551.xml

#ls -l
total 7044
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel        6 Apr 30 22:36 backup.cache
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  7176192 Apr 30 22:37 config-1556647551.xml

#ls -l
total 8100
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel      173 Apr 30 22:37 backup.cache
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  8255935 Apr 30 22:37 config-1556647551.xml

#ls -l
total 4
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  6 Apr 30 22:37 backup.cache

                                  So, it still takes a minute or so to create/modify a rule!!!

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