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    (SOLVED) Snort detecting INDICATOR-COMPROMISE suspicious .null DNS query

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      tman904
      last edited by

      ok I'll start looking.

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      • johnpozJ
        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
        last edited by johnpoz

        but those are never going to resolve unless you setup your DNS to understand how to talk to OpenNIC

        You can turn on full query logging in unbound, but has to be done in the custom options box

        server:
        log-queries: yes

        edit, example I just did a query for

        Apr 21 05:36:10 unbound 65356:0 info: 192.168.9.100 test.domain.null. A IN NXDOMAIN 0.013277 0 120

        So you can see that my pc at 192.168.9.100 asked for that .null domain. If you turn on full query logging, you should be able to figure out who is asking for it, and exactly what real quick.

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          tman904
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          quick tcpdump for udp port 53 shows odd things. The server is resolving stackoverflow.com and some yandex stuff zen.spamhaus.org

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          • johnpozJ
            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
            last edited by johnpoz

            Those don't seem too odd to me... Those are very legit domains.

            See my edit above - you prob have easier time just turning on logging in unbound and then looking through the log for .null

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              tman904
              last edited by tman904

              I turned that on, but it isn't sending queries at the moment. I'll let it settle for a while and let you know. Thank you for the help btw.

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                NogBadTheBad
                last edited by NogBadTheBad

                Do you run pfBlocker?

                It could be some dubious hosts hitting your WAN interface and pfBlocker doing a lookup for the host.

                Is the alert just in the WAN interface or on the WAN and DMZ.

                Also have a poke about in the /var/log/snort directory, there may be a file that you can do a u2spew or u2boat command.

                Andy

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                • johnpozJ
                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                  last edited by johnpoz

                  And how would pfblocker know to look for something.null? It could maybe do a PTR for an IP..

                  Oh you mean in one of its block lists? Having a null tld in a block list could be very problematic, since there is no way to resolve those without setting up use of OpenNIC

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                    jdeloach @tman904
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                    @tman904 As @bmeeks has recommended several times in this forum, you should turn off monitoring WAN in Snort and instead run it on the internal interfaces such as LAN and in this case DMZ. This will make it easy to see which device on your network is causing these alerts by looking at your internal IP addresses. Since everything is blocked by default on pFsense, running Snort on the WAN just duplicates what pFsense already does.

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                      tman904
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                      NogBadTheBad
                      The alert is only on my WAN but sourced from the WAN's IP.

                      Johnpoz I turned log level up to 5 on the dns resolver, but I still havn't found anything.

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                        NogBadTheBad @jdeloach
                        last edited by

                        @jdeloach said in Snort detecting INDICATOR-COMPROMISE suspicious .null dns query on my WAN:

                        @tman904 As @bmeeks has recommended several times in this forum, you should turn off monitoring WAN in Snort and instead run it on the internal interfaces such as LAN and in this case DMZ. This will make it easy to see which device on your network is causing these alerts by looking at your internal IP addresses. Since everything is blocked by default on pFsense, running Snort on the WAN just duplicates what pFsense already does.

                        @bmeeks also states that if you have open ports on the WAN interface to enable Snort on the WAN interface.

                        Andy

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                        • NogBadTheBadN
                          NogBadTheBad @tman904
                          last edited by

                          @tman904 said in Snort detecting INDICATOR-COMPROMISE suspicious .null dns query on my WAN:

                          NogBadTheBad
                          The alert is only on my WAN but sourced from the WAN's IP.

                          Johnpoz I turned log level up to 5 on the dns resolver, but I still havn't found anything.

                          Is there anything in the Snort log directory?

                          Andy

                          1 x Netgate SG-4860 - 3 x Linksys LGS308P - 1 x Aruba InstantOn AP22

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                            tman904
                            last edited by

                            I thought you want to run snort on WAN if you have open ports which I do.

                            Yes there is a directory for each interface. As well as an update log file. The gui did state the most recent update was successful.

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                            • johnpozJ
                              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @tman904
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                              @tman904 said in Snort detecting INDICATOR-COMPROMISE suspicious .null dns query on my WAN:

                              Johnpoz I turned log level up to 5 on the dns resolver, but I still havn't found anything.

                              Doesn't actually log queries... You have to set the query as stated in the option box..

                              logqueries.png

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                                tman904
                                last edited by tman904

                                at the moment I have two ssh connections to the pfsense and I'm running.
                                tcpdump -ni em0 udp port 53 |grep .null -LAN
                                tcpdump -ni em1 udp port 53 |grep .null -DMZ

                                Hopefully that will grab it at some point.

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                                • johnpozJ
                                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                  last edited by

                                  That not going to catch anything.. Test it!!! Do a query with that in the fqdn..

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                                    tman904
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                                    -LAN and -DMZ aren't in the command.

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                                    • johnpozJ
                                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                      last edited by

                                      And again TEST it...

                                      where do you think in that tcpdump the info of the query would be listed? So how could you grep for it.

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                                        tman904
                                        last edited by tman904

                                        well can you explain that to me?

                                        There they are
                                        07:33:13.204333 IP 192.168.0.141.57062 > 192.168.0.2.53: 57715+ [1au] A? test.null. (38)
                                        07:33:13.241310 IP 192.168.0.141.57062 > 192.168.0.2.53: 57715+ A? test.null. (27)
                                        07:33:54.634610 IP 192.168.0.141.59863 > 4.2.2.2.53: 5400+ [1au] A? test.null. (50)

                                        guess I didn't need the -A

                                        This is what I used
                                        "tcpdump -ni em0 udp port 53 |grep .null"
                                        "tcpdump -ni em1 udp port 53 |grep .null"

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                                        • johnpozJ
                                          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                          last edited by johnpoz

                                          Ok so now that you have validate your method can find an example - yeah lets see if you find anything at the time you see the snort log.

                                          When I try that grep doesn't find my test

                                          But without grep I see it
                                          [2.4.4-RELEASE][admin@sg4860.local.lan]/root: tcpdump -ni igb0 udp port 53
                                          tcpdump: verbose output suppressed, use -v or -vv for full protocol decode
                                          listening on igb0, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 262144 bytes
                                          06:39:44.111865 IP 192.168.9.100.61488 > 192.168.9.253.53: 11023+ [1au] A? test.domain.null. (57)

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                                            tman904
                                            last edited by tman904

                                            The same thing that the gui says lines up with the logs. But it says it's from the WAN IP. with grep .null on my dmz interface log file in /var/log/snort doesn't seem to have .null in it.

                                            It took a few seconds after I ran the command. Also if you change the snap length it should get to grep quicker.

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