No love for PC Engines anymore?
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Well, over here, the APU2 is by no means cheap. Once you are done with a board, a case and power, you're over 300 euros. For 100 less, you get a faster Intel box with 4 or more Intel NICs.
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@johnkeates:
Well, over here, the APU2 is by no means cheap. Once you are done with a board, a case and power, you're over 300 euros. For 100 less, you get a faster Intel box with 4 or more Intel NICs.
Yes, I covered this in my first post to this thread: "For the US market it remains the best value for a low power network device. (In other markets the pricing is much less competitive.)" Clearly, if you can get something better for less you should get something better for less. Here, it costs ~ $150 (125 euros), and at that price nobody's pointed out a really compelling alternative.
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@johnkeates:
Well, over here, the APU2 is by no means cheap. Once you are done with a board, a case and power, you're over 300 euros. For 100 less, you get a faster Intel box with 4 or more Intel NICs.
Yes, I covered this in my first post to this thread: "For the US market it remains the best value for a low power network device. (In other markets the pricing is much less competitive.)" Clearly, if you can get something better for less you should get something better for less. Here, it costs ~ $150 (125 euros), and at that price nobody's pointed out a really compelling alternative.
Yep, that's true. Also, most of the time when people try to point at alternatives they end up with Realtek interfaces or CPU's without AES-NI.
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… with alternative products in small form factor and cost.
Would you mind linking two of those, please? I'm interested in buying but can't find anything reasonable.
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Thread resurrection due to changes in the market since the OP. I'm looking at the fitlet2 as a possible successor to APU2.
https://fit-iot.com/web/products/fitlet2/
Has anyone gone from one to the other and can share their impression?
On paper it looks like a reason to go this path would be for HDMI support while retaining serial console and a modest step up in single and multi core performance while only consuming a few more watts. Is this correct?
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APU2: AMD G-Series GX-412TC, 4 x 1200MHz
Fitlet2: Intel Celeron J3455, 4 x 1500MHz (boost 2300)Both can have up to 4 Intel LAN
APU2 $110-130 needs a disk and a case.
Fitlet2 $160 needs RAM and a disk.Interesting ;)
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Correct. It's a matter of, if I'm looking at things correctly, ~30% higher speed in the case of the J3455 which might(?) help with users who have gigabit WAN connections. It's too bad the final price is more than 30% higher but for a system that should essentially stay in place for several years, I think that it's within the "fair" range if quality remains high.
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@thuety said in No love for PC Engines anymore?:
APU2: AMD G-Series GX-412TC, 4 x 1200MHz
Fitlet2: Intel Celeron J3455, 4 x 1500MHz (boost 2300)Both can have up to 4 Intel LAN
APU2 $110-130 needs a disk and a case.
Fitlet2 $160 needs RAM and a disk.I can get an apu2 for about $150 all-in, the fitlet is at least 50% more expensive. So it's a bit faster, and a bit more expensive. If you need a bit more power it could be worth it. I don't think it's a game changer, because I don't think there are many cases where the fitlet would be fast enough if the apu2 isn't.
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Hello, my name is Danail Lazarov from Bulgaria, Varna and I am a chief networking specialist at Rodnilb company, which has been working since 2000 to build networks and supply Internet services on the territory of Varna and the region.
Since 2005, our company has been working with the wireless networking equipment of the Swiss company "PC Engines" as well as with the equipment of the Latvian company "Mikrotik" and the equipment of the American company "Ubiquiti", as we have built our communications networks (5GHz), and what I would like to share here with you are our personal observations regarding the quality of both the hardware produced and offered by these three leading companies as well as their support, fidelity and honesty to their clients. What made me extremely impressed was the incredible operational endurance of "PC Engines" products, their high-quality craftsmanship and impeccable loyalty to their customers who have already chosen to work with the company's products in their business. Their devices from the "WRAP" series last for almost 14 years almost continuous work, without giving any defects! It's just amazing and really worthy of praise and recommendation! These devices do not inflate an electrolytic capacitor! They are simply iron, designed and calculated perfectly for decades of operation. We have dozens of them installed on the roofs of different buildings in Varna and for years we do not go to service them because they just work flawlessly! The same applies to the newer models of the "ALIX" series that we have been using since 2010, and so far they have performed well as their predecessors in the "WRAP" series. And when something happens to some of the products of "PC Engines", its clients can be calm because they will get full assistance in solving the problem, but this action is unfortunately not the case with "Mikrotik" which leaves its customers to deal with the problems of their products. With "Ubiquiti", the situation is the same as in the case of "Mikrotik", but slightly better, but in the first place, honesty, quality and durability are "PC Engines". Prominent Swiss precision, accuracy and loyalty are fully applied in the company policy of "PC Engines"!
The Company "PC Engines" deserve this praise and this comment because they are just unique! For so many years I've never met such a company! -
I love their website. It's like 1993 Mosaic browser
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