Big DNS Problems *Illustrated*
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@johnpoz Are you talking to me John? I do not really understand your message.
Do you have any idea what my problem might be caused from?BTW, private-domain: "plex.direct" fixed "Unable to connect to "HDPlex" securely.".
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@johnpoz Gonna PM you and we can continue chatting there so the topic can go back to the OP's issue.
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Yeah sorry @skalyx me and @virgiliomi kind of got on a bit of tangent there from your problem.
So putting in plex.direct back into custom fixed your plex problem - but your still having issues with tidal? I guess I do the free trial thing and see if could duplicate your problem.
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@johnpoz
No worries!
For the moment, TIDAL is working fine haha. Problems happen from time to time not constantly so I will have to see over time. -
UPDATE: I got the problem again with known website such as cloudflare.com etc. I will try to remove plex entry again in custom option (DNS Resolver).
Do you have any idea to help me out?
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that plex.direct would have zero to do with resolving something on cloudflare unless your are maybe using it as reverse proxy for your plex? And even then it should not be a problem.
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Yeah, this seems much more likely to be a DNS resolution issue. I would try running the resolver directly in resolving mode if you are going to have DNSSec enabled and see if the issue repeats.
Steve
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@johnpoz Yes, it is logical. I do not use reverse proxy.
@stephenw10 Hmm. Could you please let me know how I can run the DNS resolver directly in resolving mode?
Thanks,
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Resolving mode is the default setting. If you are using Cloudflare's DNS server though you would have to have set Unbound to forwarding mode. If you use that everything that request is forwarded to must support DNSSec otherwise results will be rejected.
Simply unchecking 'use forwarding mode' in Sevices > DNS Resolver will put it back to resolving directly.
Steve
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If your going to "forward" then having dnssec enabled is utterly just a waste of resources..
If you forward to a dnssec resolver - then its being done for you already... If you ask for a dnssec to something that doesn't support it, be it yet another forwarder or even a resolver it really means nothing..
If you forward enabling dnssec on your forwarder is just pointless plain and simple.
If you want to use dnssec, then you either resolve directly like unbound does out of the box, or you forward to a resolver that is doing it for you like cloudflare.
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@stephenw10 Thanks. But if I set as Unbound, I won't get DNSSEC anymore or will I?
My problem is not constantly with one domain. Actually, it happens time by time.
For instance, I am normally able to access YouTube.com or any other website. However, a time comes where I cannot say access these websites. I think my DNS Resolver crashes because when I restart it or wait for about 5-15 minutes everything works. When this situation happens, I can ping 8.8.8.8 or any other address so it really is a DNS issue.
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And are you using pfblocker, it can really delay the start of unbound.. So if your unbound is restarting all the time say on dhcp lease registration, or pfblockers own cron job that runs every hour for example.. And your unbound is taking long to start then yeah you can run into stuff like what your talking about where stuff doesn't resolve and then all of sudden does.
You could also just have delays in resolving depending if your on a high latency line, or the authoritative ns you are asking info from is on the other side of the planet from you, or is just slow or your connection via peering to that network on via your isp is bad.
If your having trouble with specific domains resolving - then you need to troubleshoot the particulars of that problem.. Dig +trace can be your friend in troubleshooting specific domains lookup problems.
But if your going to forward to NS xyz, turning on dnssec in unbound is just pointless. Cloudflare already does dnssec - so you have zero reason to have it enabled in unbound.. You will get it if you want it or not if forwarding to their dnssec enabled IP.. They have other IPs you can use if you do not want dnssec.
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@johnpoz said in Big DNS Problems *Illustrated*:
If you want to use dnssec, then you either resolve directly like unbound does out of the box, or you forward to a resolver that is doing it for you like cloudflare.
Thanks, John! So... You recommend me to let the forwarding mode in DNS Resolver and deactivate DNSSEC support? How can I activate unbound DNSSEC?
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If your going to "resolve" with unbound and not forward then out of the box it would be doing dnssec.. You would have to on purpose uncheck the dnssec box if you didn't want unbound to be doing dnssec.
If your going to "forward" with unbound then yes you should uncheck the dnssec box - because it makes no sense to ask for dnssec info from where your forwarding.. It will not be actually validated, and is just waste of time.. The forwarder could send you back whatever it wants to be honest..
If you forward to a resolver like cloudflare that is doing dnssec, then no reason to ask it for anything - since its already doing it anyway be it you ask for it or not.
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@johnpoz
I see. I think my network is quite good and my ISP as well. I think the problem is on my side configuration-wise... I am still looking... Also, when the problems come, the DNS issues are with all domains not only one.
So what about doing what Stephen recommend me which is:
"Simply unchecking 'use forwarding mode' in Sevices > DNS Resolver will put it back to resolving directly." and letting DNSSec support? -
Yes this is how pretty anyone should be using unbound - as resolver and using dnssec, this is the default out of the box configuration...
Only people that have specific needs/wants to forward for some reason that only they could understand.. I wouldn't go back to forwarding if you paid me ;) Need to change the default configuration.
There are some use cases where you would have to forward - for example if you on a high latency SAT connection for example.. Resolving just not really going to work on such a connection.
The reason resolving and using dnssec out of the box is default, is because the vast majority of the time this will be the best most secure option.. And will just work out of the box for pretty much everyone.. .Only in a situation where the ISP is directly manipulating dns queries or blocks outbound dns to anything other than their own NS could this be a problem.
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Yup go back to the default DNS setup and see if problems go away. It sounds like you had moved away from that when the problems started.
A lot of people confuse DNSSec with encrypted DNS like DNS over TLS. Were you trying to use that against Cloudflare's servers?
Steve
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@stephenw10 said in Big DNS Problems *Illustrated*:
A lot of people confuse DNSSec with encrypted DNS like DNS over TLS.
A lot of people confuse a lot of things when it comes to dns... For being really the backbone that allows the internet to even function its a shame really how little it is actually understood by the masses..
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@johnpoz Thanks, John!
So, it was a misconfiguration then...! I followed a tutorial on internet on how to use Cloudflare DNS servers with DNSSEC. I guess they did not provide good info.
So what I just did now is :
My DNS servers the PFSense router is using are: 1.0.0.1 and 1.1.1.1
Could you please check if everything is alright?
With these settings, I am unable to solve any DNS queries... I do not know why. I rebooted my 4G router and PFsense router. So... I had to reactive the forwarding mode again which makes my DNS resolving queries work. Without it, nothing works. -
@stephenw10 No haha. I want DNSSec to verify the authenticity of domains. Actually my next steps were to add DNS over TLS. However, I just do not want to add it before everything works well...
Here is what I was planning to add into the DNS Resolver custom options:
server:
forward-zone:
name: "."
forward-ssl-upstream: yes
forward-addr: 1.0.0.1@853
forward-addr: 1.1.1.1@853
