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    • JKnottJ
      JKnott @lasermole
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      @lasermole said in gigabit wan download speed much lower than upload:

      Then with a new cable and laptop, verified I got 1 Gbps Full Duplex link up.

      Was that with the computer by itself? Or through pfSense? Try the computer connected directly, to see if the problem is with pfSense or the ISP. It's best to keep things simple while testing.

      PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
      i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
      UniFi AC-Lite access point

      I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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        lasermole
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        Yes the tests were with the laptop directly connected to the ONT with new cable and I got those results...

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        • JKnottJ
          JKnott @lasermole
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          @lasermole said in gigabit wan download speed much lower than upload:

          Yes the tests were with the laptop directly connected to the ONT with new cable and I got those results...

          Then it's not a pfSense issue. Call your ISP.

          PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
          i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
          UniFi AC-Lite access point

          I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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            lasermole
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            Yup, good times with ol Verizon....

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              lasermole
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              Just curious what you guys think, but do you think Verizon has reason to dismiss a speed test done directly to their equipment? Dismissing your results, pointing blame at your device. Hence why I'm sure verizon's own speed test is the only one they officially recognize, as it separates "Device" and "Router" in its test. FYI, I don't expect to get 1000/1000, even 800/800 would be fine by me to device.

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                tman222 @lasermole
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                @lasermole - do you still have Verizon router/gateway? If yes, it might be worth plugging it in temporarily and run the Verizon speed test to the router. Given what you have described so far, I doubt that even that test will actually see full speed. If it doesn't, I expect them to help your further since the issue is then more clearly somewhere with their equipment.

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                  lasermole
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                  Yes I do still have the router/gateway device. I could hook it up again and try through that to see what speeds I get. I'll let you know what comes of that test.

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                    lasermole
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                    Tried the speed tests again with the Verizon router in place between the laptop and the ONT.

                    Laptop > Verizon router > ONT
                    Speedtest.net
                    PING ms
                    7
                    DOWNLOAD Mbps
                    256.93
                    UPLOAD Mbps
                    207.28

                    Verizon speed test
                    "Device"
                    DOWNLOAD
                    568
                    Mbps

                    UPLOAD
                    382
                    Mbps

                    "Router"
                    DOWNLOAD
                    949
                    Mbps

                    UPLOAD
                    912
                    Mbps

                    I really feel that "router" test is bull. I mean I don't pay Verizon each month to read how fast their devices are, to their network, on a screen...
                    That is not end user usable bandwidth. And I'm sure they will use that result to silence my complaints and shift the blame to me any way they see fit.

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                      tman222 @lasermole
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                      @lasermole - do you have any other device (besides the laptop) you can test with? What are the specs of the device (laptop) you are testing with? Any third party firewall / AV etc. software running in the background which may be slowing things down?

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                        lasermole
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                        I've tested with two laptops, a Lenovo T520 i5 with 16GB of RAM, and 120GB SSD and onboard intel gigabit nic.
                        And a Dell Precision 5530 with an i7 8850H 6 Core with hyper threading. Used a USB 3 Gigabit nic, as it doesn't have onboard.
                        Both of which I went through thorough checking to kill anything running that would use CPU power, or bandwidth.
                        The T520 had no firewall, or AV running during the test.
                        The Dell has Carbon Black AV/Firewall on, its my work laptop.
                        And each test the laptop was the only thing connected to the ONT, or the Verizon router.
                        And to note I disabled the Wi-Fi on the laptops, and on the Verizon router from day 1. And I don't ever use the Verizon router. I only brought it in to test everything after i setup pfSense.

                        Both laptops tested poorly in speed tests. as shown above.
                        I have contacted Verzion, and will add another post with those results.

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                          lasermole
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                          So I got Verizon on the phone yesterday morning.
                          I explained I was experiencing poor speeds on my Gigabit service.

                          The tech immediately asked if I was using my own router, and explained they can't guarantee speeds to any device but theirs. I continue appeasing them and attach the Verizon router to the ONT, then my Dell laptop wired to the router directly, and we proceed to verizon.net/speedtest to do their speed test and get:

                          Device (check)
                          DOWNLOAD
                          642
                          Mbps

                          UPLOAD
                          767
                          Mbps

                          Router
                          DOWNLOAD
                          947
                          Mbps

                          UPLOAD
                          911
                          Mbps

                          This still seemed kinda crappy, but I realized since they only care about the "router" speeds, and that absolves them of all wrongdoing with network on their side I accepted it and said "you can't help me any further thank you"

                          Now I plugged my pfSense box back up as I normally have it direct to the ONT.
                          And I did another speed test with the Dell laptop again...and mysteriously I got the best speed test I've got yet from Verizon's site with normal network hookup for me:

                          Device (good)
                          Download
                          866

                          Upload
                          766

                          So now I'm leaving things as they are. To note I do have pfsense WAN interface cloning the Verizon router MAC, but I already had that before. So I wonder if something just "clicked" into place now, or if Verizon changed anything silently? I made no new configuration changes to pfsense during this process.

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                          • stephenw10S
                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                            Would not be the first time a connection mysteriously started working after the ISP claimed to have found no fault. 🙄

                            Steve

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                              lasermole
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                              Funny now my speeds are crap on download again.
                              And I'm sure nothing is eating all the bandwidth during my test.
                              (tested through pfsense router )

                              Is there anything that could "degrade" speeds over time in pfsense? anything that builds up or needs cleaning? buffers?

                              Verizon speed test shows:
                              DOWNLOAD
                              18
                              Mbps

                              UPLOAD
                              816
                              Mbps

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                              • DerelictD
                                Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
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                                @lasermole said in gigabit wan download speed much lower than upload:

                                Is there anything that could "degrade" speeds over time in pfsense? anything that builds up or needs cleaning? buffers?

                                Nope.

                                Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
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                                DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
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                                • stephenw10S
                                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                  And still bad when putting the Verizon router back in line? Or testing directly with a single client?

                                  Steve

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