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      mullcom @Gertjan
      last edited by mullcom

      @Gertjan said in Pfsense brake completely enable DHCP:

      @mullcom said in Pfsense brake completely enable DHCP:

      @KOM said in Pfsense brake completely enable DHCP:

      What are your LAN configuration details and DHCP server config? Screenshots would be helpful.

      not so many option i have checked

      Probably one to much : image number 4 : Static ARP.

      Only the machines listed below will be able to communicate with the firewall on this interface.
      

      Do you understand what this implies ? Did you really add all the MAC's ?

      I should read about this. But this should not make the web UI and nic-port brake totally?

      I have done some backup new so I can go back to a working state if it's brake again. So I can test if this setting cursing this behavior.

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        mullcom
        last edited by mullcom

        Update.

        I have look around in Pfsense and find out that ntp servis is not working as it should! I have try to fix that but I get same issue and clock is not updating. This can be a direct issue with DHCP I think. So I need to solve this first.

        Why so many failing points in this system at a clean installation?Screenshot_20190812-191722_Chrome Canary.jpg

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        • KOMK
          KOM
          last edited by

          @mullcom said in Pfsense brake completely enable DHCP:

          Why so many failing points in this system at a clean installation?

          Impossible to answer since we have no idea what you have done or how you have configured anything. I did ask for screenshots of your network details but you never got around to providing them.

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          • GertjanG
            Gertjan @mullcom
            last edited by

            @mullcom said in Pfsense brake completely enable DHCP:

            @Gertjan said in Pfsense brake completely enable DHCP:

            @mullcom said in Pfsense brake completely enable DHCP:

            @KOM said in Pfsense brake completely enable DHCP:

            What are your LAN configuration details and DHCP server config? Screenshots would be helpful.

            not so many option i have checked

            Probably one to much : image number 4 : Static ARP.

            Only the machines listed below will be able to communicate with the firewall on this interface.
            

            Do you understand what this implies ? Did you really add all the MAC's ?

            I should read about this. But this should not make the web UI and nic-port brake totally?

            I have done some backup new so I can go back to a working state if it's brake again. So I can test if this setting cursing this behavior.

            NTP ?
            Here is mine :

            c1d1b017-b4a0-488a-b17b-8c2608a2bd9a-image.png

            Status :

            b140b962-fc32-4c84-a91d-3769de182971-image.png

            time is set close to a 0.00 001 second.

            Your status list : it found a list with IP address, but none is reachable;

            You have severe upstream connection problem.

            pfSense is as any other router : Out f the box, set up WAN (if it is DHCPclient, nothing to do, because this is default) : it connects and it's ready to go.
            Any bad experiencing from this point : tell us your setup, and we tell you what's wrong.

            Btw : use a 'normal' device to set it up. Phone-only seems not a good idea to me.

            edit : ntp using IPv6 .... oh, well, why not :

            53a72b26-71d1-44a8-af54-e747b89f3faf-image.png

            No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
            Edit : and where are the logs ??

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              mullcom @Gertjan
              last edited by mullcom

              @Gertjan said in Pfsense brake completely enable DHCP:

              @mullcom said in Pfsense brake completely enable DHCP:

              @Gertjan said in Pfsense brake completely enable DHCP:

              @mullcom said in Pfsense brake completely enable DHCP:

              @KOM said in Pfsense brake completely enable DHCP:

              What are your LAN configuration details and DHCP server config? Screenshots would be helpful.

              not so many option i have checked

              Probably one to much : image number 4 : Static ARP.

              Only the machines listed below will be able to communicate with the firewall on this interface.
              

              Do you understand what this implies ? Did you really add all the MAC's ?

              I should read about this. But this should not make the web UI and nic-port brake totally?

              I have done some backup new so I can go back to a working state if it's brake again. So I can test if this setting cursing this behavior.

              NTP ?
              Here is mine :

              c1d1b017-b4a0-488a-b17b-8c2608a2bd9a-image.png

              Status :

              b140b962-fc32-4c84-a91d-3769de182971-image.png

              time is set close to a 0.00 001 second.

              Your status list : it found a list with IP address, but none is reachable;

              You have severe upstream connection problem.

              pfSense is as any other router : Out f the box, set up WAN (if it is DHCPclient, nothing to do, because this is default) : it connects and it's ready to go.
              Any bad experiencing from this point : tell us your setup, and we tell you what's wrong.

              Btw : use a 'normal' device to set it up. Phone-only seems not a good idea to me.

              edit : ntp using IPv6 .... oh, well, why not :

              53a72b26-71d1-44a8-af54-e747b89f3faf-image.png

              Thx. I upload my settings. I have try so many ways now but right now I have this.

              Still problem. :(
              Screenshot_20190813-134824_Chrome Canary.jpg
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              • M
                mullcom
                last edited by mullcom

                Seams I geting better result but it still saying unreachable.
                Screenshot_20190813-174636_Chrome Canary.jpgScreenshot_20190813-175004_Chrome Canary.jpg

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                • johnpozJ
                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                  last edited by

                  If you can talk to them then your reach should be 377..

                  And your offsets are so large not going to adjust anyway.. Set the time on the pfsense box to be somewhere close to start with.

                  Your connectivity is just broken from those jitter values..

                  ntp.png

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                  • M
                    mullcom @johnpoz
                    last edited by

                    @johnpoz Screenshot_20190813-183937_Chrome Canary.jpg

                    I try to sett time manually. But same problem and offset time is still big. 😭

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                    • GertjanG
                      Gertjan
                      last edited by

                      Is is possible to remove all your firewall and NAT rules - and put in place the default pass all rule on LAN ?

                      No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                      Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                      • johnpozJ
                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                        last edited by johnpoz

                        @mullcom said in Pfsense brake completely enable DHCP:

                        I try to sett time manually. But same problem and offset time is still big

                        Well your not really talking to them... So the reach will go up as you get back answers.. it tells you how many out of the last 8 queries you got answers for... Normal is 377.. 7 means HORRIBLE!!! You could do the math to match up which ones got an answer..

                        7 would mean only the last 3 have gotten an answer
                        00000111

                        377
                        11111111
                        would mean you got answers for the last 8 queries.

                        What are your reaches now? When they are 377 and stay there you have a stable connection to the ntp servers.

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                          mullcom
                          last edited by

                          This is a bit crazy...

                          No one in the list.

                          Screenshot_20190813-192808_Chrome Canary.jpg

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                            mullcom
                            last edited by mullcom

                            Finally. I delit pool and only use time.windows.com like all windows OS do.

                            I get that to pop-up.
                            Screenshot_20190813-194551_Chrome Canary.jpg

                            2.4.4-RELEASE][admin@pfSense.localdomain]/root: ntpdate -d time.windows.com
                            13 Aug 19:42:45 ntpdate[62579]: ntpdate 4.2.8p13@1.3847-o Fri May 10 20:05:40 UTC 2019 (1)
                            transmit(40.74.70.63)
                            receive(40.74.70.63)
                            transmit(40.74.70.63)
                            receive(40.74.70.63)
                            transmit(40.74.70.63)
                            receive(40.74.70.63)
                            transmit(40.74.70.63)
                            receive(40.74.70.63)

                            server 40.74.70.63, port 123
                            stratum 2, precision -23, leap 00, trust 000
                            refid [132.163.96.2], root delay 0.192383, root dispersion 0.014725
                            reference time: e0fd7778.aa4bf9d3 Tue, Aug 13 2019 19:52:56.665
                            originate timestamp: e0fd7795.26345eac Tue, Aug 13 2019 19:53:25.149
                            transmit timestamp: e0fd751b.ae457a08 Tue, Aug 13 2019 19:42:51.680
                            filter delay: 0.09448 0.09479 0.09439 0.09439
                            ---- ---- ---- ----
                            filter offset: 615.057016 621.197134 627.284268 633.434036
                            ---- ---- ---- ----
                            delay 0.09439, dispersion 6.89256, offset 627.284268

                            13 Aug 19:42:51 ntpdate[62579]: step time server 40.74.70.63 offset 627.284268 sec
                            [2.4.4-RELEASE][admin@pfSense.localdomain]/root:

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                            • johnpozJ
                              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @mullcom
                              last edited by

                              well if you can not resolve - then no nobody would be in the list..

                              Not sure why you are worried about ntp.. Does the wan get an IP from your isp - is it public or rfc1918.. What does the quality graph show? Can pfsense ping say 8.8.8.8 from the diag, ping tool?

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                                mullcom @johnpoz
                                last edited by mullcom

                                @johnpoz

                                I am glad you all help me with this.

                                Pfsense deliver NTP as a funktion so. I think that should work when it come with the box. Time is important. If not correct time with your hardware to getting trubbel in the end with other. Like when you deliver active directory for one example. It seams DHCP is also in need of time. But the thing is that I want it to work and function correctly before I move on. Not like to have failing funktionalitet in the network. Btw I feel some responses loss in web GUI when time is not Correct. Sometime it frozen for a minute.

                                With that sad.

                                I call my ISP to get a IP adress that's are derectly to the internet. If I didn't do that I don't get a fake ip that's not directly to internet and gets some limitations.

                                I did some more testing in ssh when I update time manually.

                                [2.4.4-RELEASE][admin@pfSense.localdomain]/root: date 1342
                                date: can't reach time daemon, time set locally
                                Wed Aug 14 13:42:00 +02 2019
                                [2.4.4-RELEASE][admin@pfSense.localdomain]/root:
                                

                                Can't reach time deamon it say

                                [2.4.4-RELEASE][admin@pfSense.localdomain]/root: time
                                0.006u 0.018s 29:48.45 0.0%     7908+1780k 4+0io 0pf+0w
                                [2.4.4-RELEASE][admin@pfSense.localdomain]/root:
                                

                                Have no idea why it say like this.

                                I have sett correct location and that is Sweden Stockholm in web GUI. And when I ping 8.8.8.8

                                [2.4.4-RELEASE][admin@pfSense.localdomain]/root: ping 8.8.8.8
                                PING 8.8.8.8 (8.8.8.8): 56 data bytes
                                64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=0 ttl=54 time=4.960 ms
                                64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=1 ttl=54 time=4.950 ms
                                64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=2 ttl=54 time=4.946 ms
                                64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=3 ttl=54 time=4.948 ms
                                64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=4 ttl=54 time=4.947 ms
                                

                                And i get back all NTP servers in the list now. And that are 377 now. Start Frome 7 and get higher more I waited. But still saying unreachable 😭
                                Screenshot_20190814-134900_Chrome Canary.jpg

                                I did remove all NAT rules and open up WAN for everything to see if it working better.

                                LAN is already open as defoult.
                                Screenshot_20190814-135449_Chrome Canary.jpg

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                                • M
                                  mullcom
                                  last edited by

                                  When I enable Graf. where do i find it?

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                                  • M
                                    mullcom
                                    last edited by

                                    I am trying to finding NTP.conf in she'll. But it seams that it has moved away form defoult location ?

                                    [2.4.4-RELEASE][admin@pfSense.localdomain]/etc: cd ntp
                                    [2.4.4-RELEASE][admin@pfSense.localdomain]/etc/ntp: ls
                                    [2.4.4-RELEASE][admin@pfSense.localdomain]/etc/ntp:
                                    
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                                    • johnpozJ
                                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                      last edited by johnpoz

                                      Lets freaking forget ntp for the time being..

                                      You show a block on your lan for dhcp that 0.0.0.0:68 are you not running dhcp server on your lan on pfsense?

                                      If you enable dhcp server on pfsense lan - then there would be hidden rules to allow that traffic - since your seeing blocked, then you don't have it enabled?

                                      There should be ZERO rules on your wan!!! unless you want a specific port forward..

                                      Your ntp seems to be working from you latest screen shot, see the 377 reach. But your offset is still HUGE.. Do you have a timezone issue.. What do you have timezone set in the gui too? Make sure its correct and then reboot pfsense.

                                      simple date cmd will show you time, date and zone

                                      [2.4.4-RELEASE][admin@sg4860.local.lan]/: date
                                      Wed Aug 14 08:15:23 CDT 2019
                                      [2.4.4-RELEASE][admin@sg4860.local.lan]/: 
                                      

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                                      • GertjanG
                                        Gertjan @mullcom
                                        last edited by

                                        @mullcom said in Pfsense brake completely enable DHCP:

                                        moved away form defoult location

                                        Default to what ? A Linux based system ? A pure FreeBSD install ? Maybe.
                                        This is pfSense, based on the FreeBSD kernel OS.

                                        Check /var/etc/ntpd.conf ^^

                                        This file is build by pfSense (GUI settings) just before pfSense start the time demaon.

                                        /usr/local/sbin/ntpd -g -c /var/etc/ntpd.conf -p /var/run/ntpd.pid
                                        
                                        #
                                        # pfSense ntp configuration file
                                        #
                                        
                                        tinker panic 0
                                        # Orphan mode stratum
                                        tos orphan 12
                                        
                                        
                                        # Upstream Servers
                                        pool fr.pool.ntp.org iburst maxpoll 9
                                        
                                        
                                        statsdir /var/log/ntp
                                        logconfig =syncall +clockall +peerall +sysall
                                        driftfile /var/db/ntpd.drift
                                        restrict default kod limited nomodify nopeer notrap
                                        restrict -6 default kod limited nomodify nopeer notrap
                                        restrict source kod limited nomodify notrap
                                        interface ignore all
                                        interface ignore wildcard
                                        interface listen fxp0
                                        interface listen sis0
                                        interface listen ovpns1
                                        

                                        ( This is mine - with the interface and settings I use ).

                                        No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                                        Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                                          mullcom
                                          last edited by

                                          Weee. I have solved my issue. It's a kernel tune that needs to be done. I found out this on hardware forum that make this nice bords.

                                          https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink?url=https%3A%2F%2Fforum%2Eodroid%2Ecom%2Fviewtopic%2Ephp%3Ft%3D33911&share_tid=33911&share_fid=63351&share_type=t

                                          Anyway I want to thx for all your help. It is very grateful.

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