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    Guest network to Netgate SG-1100 (without modem) installation

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    • KOMK
      KOM
      last edited by

      Thanks for the clarification.

      Have I mentioned lately that I hate hidden rules? They should be visible in the GUI, in their proper order, and greyed out so you can't move or edit them in any way. But at least you know they are there and what they do. And yes, I'm aware I could go to shell and do a rule dump but that's an ugly hassle.

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      • johnpozJ
        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
        last edited by johnpoz

        I concur - there should be a toggle for sure that can display them.. I would vote as well for such an option.. I think it the big picture it would confuse more users than help others that understand what they are doing ;)

        Maybe have to pass a test of basic understanding of firewall rule concepts before you can show the hidden rules ;)

        I could see a flood of, how do I stop the rule that allows the firewall outbound.. And then wondering why they are offline because the firewall can not even ask for a dhcp address or query for dns, etc. etc.

        There was a recent post about wanting to block pfsense from talking outbound.. It was his firewall, he didn't want it to be able to talk outbound without him allowing it.. Do you know how many systems would be useless or how many posts and calls that would generate. if users could stop the firewall from talking outbound, or would have to allow it to happen for say dhcp to work ;)

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        • keyserK
          keyser Rebel Alliance @johnpoz
          last edited by

          @johnpoz Thanks for the clarification - my bad :-) Must have been some other situation I remembered. Good to know going forward :-)

          Love the no fuss of using the official appliances :-)

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            rpwoods13 @KOM
            last edited by

            @KOM Thanks for the reply! This was definitely helpful for me.

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            • bmeeksB
              bmeeks
              last edited by

              I'm a little late to this party, but I would also vote "yes" to having a "display hidden rules" option in the GUI. Would be fine to default the option to "off".

              I managed Checkpoint firewalls for many years and they also have hidden rules except they call them "implied rules". But there is a mechanism to display them in their firewall management GUI tool if you had a need to examine them.

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                rpwoods13
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                Hey all, so I have a couple questions about manually assigning an address, mask, etc. @KOM might be able to help me the most here. I went to the PFsense user interface, clicked on the System tab and scrolled down to the Setup Wizard secondary tab. Proceeding to step 4, I configured and typed in a static IP. Is this the correct approach? The WAN port is still down as seen in the attached photo. I have also included the error I am getting on Windows 10. 98df8723-6fe5-40ae-859a-b66e234ffbc9-image.png 686cf2b4-be5e-49e1-b876-da3a1c0bf0fd-image.png

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                • johnpozJ
                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                  last edited by johnpoz

                  Well if your wan is down - not sure how you think some pc on your lan is going to have internet?

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                  • KOMK
                    KOM
                    last edited by

                    WAN is 0.0.0.0 which means it's in DHCP mode but did not get an address from your ISP. Maybe there is something going on with your switch port config. I've never used Netgate hardware so I don't really know much about that.

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                    • johnpozJ
                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                      last edited by

                      @rpwoods13 said in Guest network to Netgate SG-1100 (without modem) installation:

                      to a guest RJ45 (wall outlet) at work and have yet to connect to the internet.

                      If this is like any actual work network, any unused ports would be disabled.. And if live they would have some sort of port security on them - only specific mac, or have to auth via 802.1x etc.

                      But your not going anywhere unless you can get an IP on wan.

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                        rpwoods13
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                        I assigned a static IP address once again to get an IP for the WAN port. The WAN port is still down, but instead of ‘none’ consistently showing, I have ‘1000baseT<full-duplex>‘ alternating with ‘none’. Thoughts?
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                        • KOMK
                          KOM
                          last edited by

                          1. Was that static IP address assigned to you by your ISP? You can't just pick one out of the air and use it and expect it to work.

                          2. Again, I don't know much about Netgate hardware and the switch port but the fact that your WAN switch port is down is probably not a good sign.

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                          • johnpozJ
                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                            last edited by johnpoz

                            You can not just assign a random static IP and expect get anywhere..

                            if your interface keeps going up down, errors, etc. then points to something wrong with that port, or security set on it, etc. Like I mentioned if work network - they should unless some ma and pop shop, have some sort of NAC setup so random people can not just plug shit into any random port and get on the network.

                            I suggest you get with the IT dept on what your wanting to do.

                            edit: example even our conference rooms, there are multiple interfaces right in the table.. But they are disabled until specifically requested to be turned on and connected to the guest network. Most guests are expected to just use the wireless guest network. If for some reason they request a wired port, then we would enable that port for guest access. And when the meeting over the port would be disabled.

                            If that interface is suppose to be active.. Then its should just be dhcp, or the IT dept would tell you what IP/MASK and gateway to setup. But if the interface status is bouncing up/down/duplex changing, etc. Then it points to something wrong with that port or cable your using.. Or something wrong with the port on the sg1100.. If you plug the sg1100 wan into say your soho router at home does it get an IP?

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                            • stephenw10S
                              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                              last edited by

                              Until you see thr WAN switch port show a link you have no upstream connectivity. The wall jack you are testing may just be disconnected from what we are seeing right now.

                              Steve

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