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    • F
      Finduilas
      last edited by

      Picture of LAN-rules:
      router.jpg

      DNS-server 10.0.0.10 is an Windows Server. But the PFSense router is "new", configured by someone else (can't get in touch anymore).

      DNS-resolver was enabled, default settings (normally, see screenshots). DNS forwarding is disabled.
      dns-resolver-1.JPG dns-resolver-2.JPG dns-resolver-3.JPG dns-resolver-4.JPG dns-resolver-5.JPG

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      • GertjanG
        Gertjan
        last edited by Gertjan

        LAN rules :
        The second rule is overlapped by the third rule - remove that second rule, because it's TCP only, thus very strange at best.
        Rule 3 and 4 - the last 2 - handle all traffic just fine.

        @Finduilas said in Website won't load: operation timed out:

        DNS forwarding is disabled.

        So pfSense doesn't use 10.0.0.10 to resolve. It goes directly to "the source".
        Are you using DHCP on your LAN ? How is the DNS setup on your LAN clients ? Static ? By DHCP ? Check the DHCP server page : what is the DNS to hand over to LAN clients (if set) ?

        Btw : why suing this local "10.0.0.10" DNS server (which probably forwards to again another DNS server, or it resolves directly, as pfSense does )?

        No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
        Edit : and where are the logs ??

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        • johnpozJ
          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
          last edited by

          Again - if you can resolve it, and just doesn't answer.. Unless your using proxy or ips.. pfsense not going to be doing anything different with traffic going there vs going to google.com

          I would do a packet capture to prove to yourself pfsense is sending on your syn or not to the site.. There is nothing in your setup that you have shown that would stop one site over another site.

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          • stephenw10S
            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
            last edited by

            If you're using Squid/Squidguard you should really make sure both Squid and clients coming through it are using the same DNS server(s). If you are handing 10.0.0.10 to clients to use you should set that in Squid also.

            However that would not explain why it still fails with Squid disabled. I agree I think a packet capture showing the failed connection would be the next step here.

            Steve

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            • johnpozJ
              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
              last edited by johnpoz

              @Finduilas said in Website won't load: operation timed out:

              10 24 ms 23 ms 34 ms 235..belgacom.be [91..*.235]

              He seems to be able to trace there, so unless he is running proxy or ips - its not going to be pfsense issue.. Maybe a mtu problem getting there?

              Might be helpful if actually posted the site fqdn.. So we could test it even.. What is the big deal about posting some public site on the internet... If I had problem going to say www.cnn.com how would saying I can not get to www.cnn.com be any sort of privacy concern? Unless this is some sort of p0rn site or something you don't want anyone knowing you visit ;)

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                Finduilas
                last edited by

                We are using a DNS server (10.0.0.10) because we have a domain. The public DNS of that server is 195.130.130.5.

                The url of the problem site is:
                ||http://order.hanssens.be/order/||

                The lanrules are changed. (no overwrites anymore).

                @johnpoz packet capture
                15:51:27.776037 IP my.ip.. > 91.183.206.235.80: tcp 0
                15:51:27.777709 IP my.ip.. > 91.183.206.235.80: tcp 0
                15:51:28.025853 IP my.ip.. > 91.183.206.235.80: tcp 0
                15:51:30.776740 IP my.ip...16614 > 91.183.206.235.80: tcp 0
                15:51:30.778734 IP my.ip..29026 > 91.183.206.235.80: tcp 0
                15:51:31.026104 IP my.ip.
                .
                .41937 > 91.183.206.235.80: tcp 0

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                • kiokomanK
                  kiokoman LAYER 8
                  last edited by

                  there is a sonicwall there with Gateway GEO-IP Filter enabled.
                  are you sure is not the sonicwall that have a ban on you?

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                  • johnpozJ
                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                    last edited by johnpoz

                    @Finduilas said in Website won't load: operation timed out:

                    5:51:27.777709 IP my.ip.. > 91.183.206.235.80: tcp 0
                    15:51:28.025853 IP my.ip.. > 91.183.206.235.80: tcp 0

                    Well you sending.. but getting nothing back.. So its not pfsense blocking you.

                    Yup I get this
                    blocked.png

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                    • stephenw10S
                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                      last edited by

                      I am able to connect to it from the UK. It then invites me to login over http. If I try to use https I get a bad cert.

                      Those things tell me whoever is managing that site isn't paying much attention so you could well have been blocked by some automated system nobody ever checks.

                      Steve

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                      • johnpozJ
                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                        last edited by

                        @stephenw10 said in Website won't load: operation timed out:

                        It then invites me to login over http

                        Wow - that is a major vendor of yours? I would find a different vendor ;)

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                        • stephenw10S
                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                          last edited by

                          Yeah it's bad in numerous ways!

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                          • johnpozJ
                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                            last edited by johnpoz

                            Sure hope maybe they do bathroom supplies or something and nothing to do with IT ;) Whatever they do, guess they don't want to do business with the US ;)

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                            • kiokomanK
                              kiokoman LAYER 8
                              last edited by kiokoman

                              .. or italy, they do catering services anyway, i doubt they want to send food and staff to usa anyway :)
                              that subdomain is probably for sales representatives only

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                              • johnpozJ
                                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                last edited by

                                But maybe a secretary in the US wants to have an event their company is throwing in Belgium catered ;) Blocking IPs from other countries prob not the best way to grow the business ;)

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                                • kiokomanK
                                  kiokoman LAYER 8
                                  last edited by kiokoman

                                  indeed ..
                                  i can see that web page using a proxy
                                  https://nl.hideproxy.me
                                  from a security point of view it is useless

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                                    Finduilas
                                    last edited by

                                    Ok, I'm glad we found the problem.. I didn't got the Sonicwall message, and because the router is pretty new, I thought it was my own fault..

                                    The vendor is now aware of the problem. They will fix it. Thanks for the help, sorry it wasn't really a pfsense issue.

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