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      BjornStevens @stephenw10
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      @stephenw10

      Hi, Thanks for your reply,

      I tried to find the /boot/loader.conf.local file but could only find a /boot/loader.conf
      I tried adding it into there ( hw.pci.honor_msi_blacklist=0 ) but still no change.
      It has done something because it moved up in the file.

      During speedtest i get these results with vmstat -i:
      ae70e044-cd64-426d-aa9b-831bafb1867b-afbeelding.png
      And when using the top -S -H command still get the same results.

      Any other suggestions?

      Thanks!

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      • kiokomanK
        kiokoman LAYER 8
        last edited by

        you need to create the file
        /boot/loader.conf.local
        if it's missing
        copy inside
        hw.pci.honor_msi_blacklist=0
        save and reboot

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        • stephenw10S
          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
          last edited by

          Yup create the file if it doesn't exist. If you put it in loader.conf it may get overwritten.

          However that will only do anything for vmx NICs. You have em NICs there currently.

          Steve

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            BjornStevens @stephenw10
            last edited by BjornStevens

            @stephenw10 Allright, will set them to VMXNET3, reboot, create the file with the line and inform if there are any changes.

            Thanks for the help @kiokoman & @stephenw10 !

            Creating config file:
            982b0dd4-2c9c-4ecf-9ac8-be2915f3b4be-afbeelding.png

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              BjornStevens
              last edited by BjornStevens

              Okay so further testing will come in later but for now i seem to reach my maximum provider speed on my linux server behind the firewall:
              30ee4f36-acce-4b80-9fbf-49be03d205a0-afbeelding.png

              BUT it did drop back down to 14.4Megabyte's per second and go up and down all the time:
              9e4f1f56-336e-4798-bf02-06b239e5bad7-afbeelding.png
              Cpu usage seems to have set a bit:
              e79a25f5-47e3-4adf-983d-fd919f94def1-afbeelding.png

              Using SMB protocol i get this from moving a file WAN to LAN:
              e45d4618-c85f-4ace-af3c-533642fda829-afbeelding.png

              It's 2 virtual cores are running at nearly full power (cpu 6/7) (cpu 4 is being used on the server side in the LAN network.):
              45cb9478-33ab-446f-b5ad-60bca539c805-afbeelding.png

              I don't know if this is just a performance bug but speeds seem to have increased, altough cpu usage is still high (compared to the hardware specifications of pfsense)

              Changing to a quad core (virtual processor) did not change much either, cpu usage stays high on 2 cores:
              016158cd-9055-41c1-9087-e3bc4ac87e56-afbeelding.png

              Wish i could put my finger on the issue.

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              • stephenw10S
                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                last edited by

                I still only see one tx queue and one rx queue on each NIC. Does vmstat -i show more?

                I assume you created that file in /boot

                Steve

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                  BjornStevens @stephenw10
                  last edited by

                  @stephenw10

                  yep its placed under /boot/loader.conf.local
                  9c8aefad-741a-439a-9981-93582a95b5a6-afbeelding.png

                  vmstat -i during speedtest on server in lan side:
                  a7a528cf-d4b7-4795-bc21-5c250ff4579f-afbeelding.png

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                    BjornStevens
                    last edited by

                    I actually don't know how to read the vmstat -i, but i hope you might know more @stephenw10

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                    • kiokomanK
                      kiokoman LAYER 8
                      last edited by

                      one queue

                      vmx0: tq0 (transmission queue 0)
                      vmx0: rq0 (receive queue 0)

                      with multiple queue you should see tq0 / tq1 etc etc

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                      • stephenw10S
                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                        last edited by stephenw10

                        Yeah, that. Though I don't have anything vmx to test again right now.
                        I think it probably is working as you are seeing the high numbered IRQs which MSI uses.
                        Try removing that line or commenting it out and rebooting. Do you see any change?

                        On other NICs you might see something like:

                        [2.4.4-RELEASE][root@5100.stevew.lan]/root: vmstat -i
                        interrupt                          total       rate
                        irq7: uart0                          432          0
                        irq16: sdhci_pci0                    536          0
                        cpu0:timer                      68688188       1001
                        cpu3:timer                       1069435         16
                        cpu2:timer                       1060293         15
                        cpu1:timer                       1086989         16
                        irq264: igb0:que 0                 68630          1
                        irq265: igb0:que 1                 68630          1
                        irq266: igb0:que 2                 68630          1
                        irq267: igb0:que 3                 68630          1
                        irq268: igb0:link                      3          0
                        irq269: igb1:que 0                 68630          1
                        irq270: igb1:que 1                 68630          1
                        irq271: igb1:que 2                 68630          1
                        irq272: igb1:que 3                 68630          1
                        irq273: igb1:link                      1          0
                        irq274: ahci0:ch0                   4473          0
                        irq290: xhci0                         85          0
                        irq291: ix0:q0                    216643          3
                        irq292: ix0:q1                     47933          1
                        irq293: ix0:q2                    325480          5
                        irq294: ix0:q3                    514752          7
                        irq295: ix0:link                       2          0
                        irq301: ix2:q0                     74629          1
                        irq302: ix2:q1                       507          0
                        irq303: ix2:q2                      1703          0
                        irq304: ix2:q3                     89446          1
                        irq305: ix2:link                       1          0
                        irq306: ix3:q0                     70295          1
                        irq307: ix3:q1                      4985          0
                        irq308: ix3:q2                    186433          3
                        irq309: ix3:q3                    413486          6
                        irq310: ix3:link                       1          0
                        Total                           74405771       1084
                        

                        https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=vmx#MULTIPLE_QUEUES

                        Steve

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                        • kiokomanK
                          kiokoman LAYER 8
                          last edited by

                          try to add this on your loader.conf.local

                          hw.vmx.txnqueue="4"
                          hw.vmx.rxnqueue="4"
                          

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                            BjornStevens @kiokoman
                            last edited by BjornStevens

                            @kiokoman & @stephenw10

                            I added the rule with
                            hw.vmx.txnqueue="4"
                            hw.vmx.rxnqueue="4"

                            I did not see any change whatsoever in vmstat -i:
                            5aef0aff-dddc-4b0e-936f-aead27b125d6-afbeelding.png

                            and commenting out the first rule also did not change anything:
                            1f593ee1-26de-4e5d-b6b4-e79c72ffecd6-afbeelding.png

                            Edit:

                            Even when doing a download on a server in LAN and using top -S -H i have this outcome:
                            1adb31da-90e6-406b-99d7-968622a15c02-afbeelding.png

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                            • stephenw10S
                              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                              last edited by

                              You are seeing load on all CPUs there and none is at 100% so it's not CPU limited at that point.

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                                BjornStevens @stephenw10
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                                @stephenw10 i have increased it before to 4 cores running at 4ghz. Right now i dont know what to do at all:( i really like the easy way of working with pfsense but i dont know what further investigation i can do because the cpu usage is skyrocket high with 250mbit/s

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                                • stephenw10S
                                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                  last edited by stephenw10

                                  Yes, there is something significantly wrong with your virtualisation setup there. You can pass 250Mbps with a something ancient and slow like a 1st gen APU at 1GHz.

                                  Steve

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                                    BjornStevens @stephenw10
                                    last edited by

                                    @stephenw10 Poor me then, i will see if i will try some other things with this setup

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                                    • kiokomanK
                                      kiokoman LAYER 8
                                      last edited by kiokoman

                                      to me the problem should be investigated on the vm side more than from inside pfsense. i see on google that people tend to bridge the interface instead off using the passthrough for unraid.
                                      personally, for example, i was never able to make pfSense work reliable under virtualbox and i had to change the vm to qemu/kvm

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                                        BjornStevens
                                        last edited by

                                        Here a little update: i changed from pfsense to the OPNsense. Kind off the same thing but OPNsense seemed to handle the troughput way better with way lower usage. Right now i am able to run power safe mode (all 8 cores on 1.4Ghz) where 4 cores are for the firewall and get 250mbit without a problem. I am now using this firewall for all the network traffic in my house. So far no issues.

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                                          tinysnake
                                          last edited by

                                          same thing here, i'm using intel cpu and yet very high cpu usage.
                                          I have a 4 port NIC, and I passthrough 2 ports to pfSense, 1 port for WAN, and 1 port for LAN.
                                          I saw a comment on reddit says:

                                          it sounds like you've got your WAN to one port of your Intel NIC and the LAN to the other port of your Intel NIC... I don't think that's it's intended use. Each physical NIC should be for one purpose, LAN or WAN but not both. Maybe I'm wrong on that but I've always seen Dual or Quad NICs used as all LAN ports. (reddit)

                                          I'm wondering if this really a bad thing? I have other openwrt installed before and never have this issue, or maybe you guys have a workaround to fix this?

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                                          • stephenw10S
                                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                            last edited by

                                            No that doesn't make any difference. pfSense just sees those as individual NICs.

                                            Steve

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