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    [Q] pfSense on Hyper-V 2012R2 - transparent mode - possible? {YES}

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    • johnpozJ
      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
      last edited by johnpoz

      @mdalacu said in [Q] pfSense on Hyper-V 2012R2 - transparent mode - possible?:

      I need pfSense in transparent FW mode with FreeRadius and a transparent proxy so i can filter web connections

      Why would you think this, that is not the case at all.. There is a huge difference between running a transparent firewall and and a transparent proxy. Neither are normally a good choice.. And should only be done when there is no other way..

      You have not given any reason why this could not just be routed with a explicit proxy. And sure you could do transparent proxy as well.. But to be honest would block vs allowing transparent.. And only do transparent for something that can not use a proxy.. Some stupid iot device or something that does not officially support proxy. And such devices should be on their own vlan anyway.,

      Why can you not just use pfsense as normal L3 firewall router, and run proxy on this... Why do you think you need it to be transparent?

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        mdalacu @johnpoz
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        @johnpoz Because if all falls apart i just a cable away (putting it between SWitches or do some briging on the host)...and do it remotly...
        And i am just one guy doing all this beside my office hours :-))

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        • johnpozJ
          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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          So your trying to set this all up remote? hehe dude you should be on site for such setup..

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            mdalacu @johnpoz
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            @johnpoz After i setup this on premises i will manage all remote like i have done for several years. But i need in case of FW failure to let people work with minimal disturbance and not wait for me to get there.
            I really hope that i will be able to do the transparent proxy....right now i am stuck...

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            • stephenw10S
              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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              You can't use Squid in transparent mode on a bridged firewall. The redirect rules do not function on bridged interfaces.
              Or at least they did not last time I tested this:
              https://redmine.pfsense.org/issues/1620

              You might also consider that the usefulness of a transparent proxy is limited anyway. Once encrypted SNI becomes widespread you will no longer be able to see or filter https traffic without full ssl intercept.
              https://blog.cloudflare.com/encrypted-sni/

              Steve

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                mdalacu @stephenw10
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                @stephenw10 Thanks for answering!
                I just wanted to make it work like untangle in transparent mode.
                I will see what i can do....
                The Freeradius part it is working...i hope squid will do to....but transparent....

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                • stephenw10S
                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                  last edited by

                  Not if it's redirecting on a bridged interface. You can try the patch linked in that bug report. It's been a while since I tested it but I was never able to make it work despite trying every combination of things I could think of. Something may have changed since then.

                  Steve

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                    mdalacu @stephenw10
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                    @stephenw10 Yes, you are right...not working. I have tried everything that i can think off. I was hoping that fixing the problem i was having with Freeradius will also fix this, but no ( i had to manually add the name of the server in DNS overwrites) The patch seems to be merged since 2017...
                    What else could i try for transparent proxy to work on bridged interface?
                    Thanks.

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                    • stephenw10S
                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                      You could try a 2.5 snapshot. They are built on FreeBSD 12. Since this appears to be an upstream limitation in pf that may have been fixed.

                      Steve

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                        mdalacu @stephenw10
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                        @stephenw10 Can i update from 2.4.4_3 by simply changeing the sytem/update/systemupdate branch to 2.5? Thx.

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                        • stephenw10S
                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                          Yes you can. Be sure to snapshot it if you need to go back though, you cannot downgrade in the same way.

                          Steve

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