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    • provelsP
      provels @aciampoli
      last edited by

      @aciampoli Look on the bright side. Maybe it's finally dying! :)

      Peder

      MAIN - pfSense+ 24.11-RELEASE - Adlink MXE-5401, i7, 16 GB RAM, 64 GB SSD. 500 GB HDD for SyslogNG
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      • stephenw10S
        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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        Yeah you should be able to disable the spin-down as @chpalmer said above.

        Or of you have a loud drive you can set /var and /tmp as ram drives. I've done that previously for exactly that reason and it leaves the drive spun-down almost all of the time. That's also a setting in Sys > Adv > Misc.

        Steve

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          aciampoli
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          @chpalmer here is the section in system_advanced_misc.php
          *$section->addInput(new Form_Select(
          'harddiskstandby',
          'Hard disk standby time',
          $pconfig['harddiskstandby'],
          ['' => gettext("Always on")] + array_combine($opts, $vals)
          ))->setHelp('Puts the hard disk into standby mode when the selected number of minutes has elapsed since the last access.%1$s' .
          '%2$sDo not set this for CF cards.%3$s', '<br />', '<strong>', '</strong>');

          $form->add($section);*

          @stephenw10 any disadvantages in putting /var and /tmp in ram?

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            aciampoli
            last edited by

            @stephenw10 made the changes to set /var and /tmp as ram drives, drive is still spinning up and down as we speak.

            Adriano

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            • provelsP
              provels @aciampoli
              last edited by

              @aciampoli What is the make and model of drive? I have seen several WD drives with excessive head parking issues (as short as 8 seconds. WD Green/Red models come to mind.

              Peder

              MAIN - pfSense+ 24.11-RELEASE - Adlink MXE-5401, i7, 16 GB RAM, 64 GB SSD. 500 GB HDD for SyslogNG
              BACKUP - pfSense+ 23.01-RELEASE - Hyper-V Virtual Machine, Gen 1, 2 v-CPUs, 3 GB RAM, 8GB VHDX (Dynamic)

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              • stephenw10S
                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator @aciampoli
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                @aciampoli
                Hmm, and it did apply those? It rebooted?

                You might have to removed the 'don't spin down' setting to allow it to spin down. Though in my case I did not.

                You might have something else writing to the drive, maybe a Squid cache for example.

                Steve

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                  aciampoli
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                  @provels seagate 500LM030-2E717D
                  @stephenw10 yes it applied and rebooted.

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                  • RicoR
                    Rico LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance
                    last edited by

                    Can you please try another PSU?

                    -Rico

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                      aciampoli
                      last edited by

                      @Rico No I don't think changing the PSU will do anything as a default PfSense install doesn't give me this issue.

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                      • stephenw10S
                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                        last edited by

                        A clean install does not do this? Does it remain spin down or spun up?

                        What packages are you running?

                        Steve

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                          aciampoli
                          last edited by

                          @stephenw10 correct, for testing I did a clean install on this computer and let it sit there, I didn't hear any spin ups/downs, but I cannot say what state it was in up or down.
                          As for packages

                          Avahi
                          iperf
                          openvpn-client-export
                          pfBlockerNG-devel
                          Shellcmd

                          Currently the system is not in prod, and is sitting on my lan, no traffic is going through it except for me using ssh/web portal

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                          • stephenw10S
                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                            last edited by

                            Logging from pfBlocker is what I would suspect there then. Though I would have expected that to be in /var and hence in RAM if you enabled that.

                            Steve

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                            • chpalmerC
                              chpalmer @aciampoli
                              last edited by

                              @aciampoli said in pfsense HD constant spin-up and spin down:

                              @chpalmer here is the section in system_advanced_misc.php
                              $section->addInput(new Form_Select(
                              'harddiskstandby',
                              'Hard disk standby time',
                              $pconfig['harddiskstandby'],
                              ['' => gettext("Always on")] + array_combine($opts, $vals)
                              ))->setHelp('Puts the hard disk into standby mode when the selected number of minutes has elapsed since the last access.%1$s' .
                              '%2$sDo not set this for CF cards.%3$s', '<br />', '<strong>', '</strong>');
                              $form->add($section);

                              Your install looks broken.. HDSetting.jpg

                              Triggering snowflakes one by one..
                              Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4590T CPU @ 2.00GHz on an M400 WG box.

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                                aciampoli
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                                Update from my end, I think I figured it out...
                                After @chpalmer last msg, I went back to the "Hard disk standby time" settings and it was set to 180, which even if the systems was using the 180 mins it still didn't make any sense as to why is was spinning up/down so quickly. What I did is set it back to Always on and after saving and rebooting there are no more spin ups or downs.

                                thank you.

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