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      ASIC
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      Rule description is @4294967295.

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        hulleyrob @ASIC
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        Does anyone have an idea where the rule id comes from as it looks like we all have the same rule ID number creating these rules maybe this will give us an idea of where they are coming from?

        Ideally there would be some logging or history but as everyone has said upnp is a bad idea for most people so i guess thats why it doesnt exist.

        Also they are also 8 seconds apart in batches but this could be the time that the service runs each time?

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        • johnpozJ
          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
          last edited by johnpoz

          So I just turned UPnP on - to test.. And then set my plex to use UPnP vs the static forward I have setup.

          So I disabled my normal port forward.. Then enable UPnP

          And I get this.
          upnp.jpg

          After doing a can you see me for the port listed in the UPnP status 21735

          Is not coming up with that ID number.. A google for that ID and pfsense came up with this thread
          https://forum.netgate.com/topic/128685/firewall-log-showing-strange-pass-entry

          Can we see the raw firewall logs for these entries. Like in that thread.

          example - here is the raw entry for one of those passed via upnp

          Oct 15 06:10:27 	filterlog: 224,0,miniupnpd,0,igb1,match,pass,in,4,0x0,,42,13284,0,DF,6,tcp,60,52.202.215.126,192.168.9.10,58368,32400,0,S,2623792563,,26883,,mss;sackOK;TS;nop;wscale
          

          You can see from the log that miniupnpd there.. So lets see the raw for these entries.

          From that other thread
          Mar 25 14:42:05 pfSense filterlog: 4294967295,,,0,re0,short,pass,in,4,0x0,,239,10359,0,DF,6,tcp,36,105.212.87.78,[MYIPADDRESS],2123,23,-4,S,errormsg='[bad hdr length 20 - too long, > 16]',

          Not exactly sure what "short" means as the reason...

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            hulleyrob @johnpoz
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            @johnpoz yeah sure i did look at those last night but couldnt see anything that looked much differant from in the screenshot but maybe you will see something i cannot. Will post as soon as i get home from work. Thanks to everyone for input and testing this.

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              ASIC
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              Here is my raw filter log for this:
              Oct 14 20:42:00 filterlog: 4294967295,,,0,pppoe0,short,pass,in,4,0x0,,241,53405,0,none,17,udp,27,103.240.140.10,[MYIPADDRESS],1810,1985,7

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              • johnpozJ
                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                last edited by johnpoz

                @ASIC said in Had my pfSense been compromised?:

                short,

                I have no idea what that means... Have never seen that in the logs before.

                Found this;
                reason res - the reason that action was taken. Possible reasons are match, bad-offset, fragment, short, normalize, memory, bad-timestamp, congestion, ip-option, proto-cksum, state-mismatch, state-insert, state-limit, src-limit and synproxy.

                But not sure what "short" actually means?

                edit: Ok looks there have been some that match on short (2) - but still not actually finding anything that describes what it actually means

                [2.4.4-RELEASE][admin@sg4860.local.lan]/root: pfctl -s info
                Status: Enabled for 30 days 22:17:00          Debug: Urgent
                
                Interface Stats for igb0              IPv4             IPv6
                  Bytes In                    350478233746         69232705
                  Bytes Out                  1405455628533       1128183040
                  Packets In
                    Passed                       466867557           311496
                    Blocked                           8876                1
                  Packets Out
                    Passed                       999590646          1171599
                    Blocked                              0                0
                
                State Table                          Total             Rate
                  current entries                      404               
                  searches                      3535810440         1323.2/s
                  inserts                         15778842            5.9/s
                  removals                        15778438            5.9/s
                Counters
                  match                           16542390            6.2/s
                  bad-offset                             0            0.0/s
                  fragment                              64            0.0/s
                  short                                  2            0.0/s
                  normalize                             21            0.0/s
                  memory                                 0            0.0/s
                  bad-timestamp                          0            0.0/s
                  congestion                             0            0.0/s
                  ip-option                            125            0.0/s
                  proto-cksum                            0            0.0/s
                  state-mismatch                      2834            0.0/s
                  state-insert                           0            0.0/s
                  state-limit                            0            0.0/s
                  src-limit                              0            0.0/s
                  synproxy                               0            0.0/s
                  map-failed                             0            0.0/s
                [2.4.4-RELEASE][admin@sg4860.local.lan]/root: 
                

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                  bchan @ASIC
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                  @ASIC said in Had my pfSense been compromised?:

                  Rule description is @4294967295.

                  Same id as mine.๐Ÿค”

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                    ASIC @bchan
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                    @bchan said in Had my pfSense been compromised?:

                    4294967295

                    Maybe because 4294967295(Dec) is equal to FFFFFFFF(Hex).

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                    • johnpozJ
                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                      last edited by johnpoz

                      Ok so from research so fare

                      short packets dropped

                      Is that that is suppose to mean.. but why does it say passed then?

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                        provels
                        last edited by provels

                        So there is no outbound traffic to 103.240.140.10 from some device that creates this return Allow temp rule? Since all return traffic is allowed? Create a rule that allows (but logs) all traffic to 103.240.140.10? (LOL, ignore as needed! :)

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                        • johnpozJ
                          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                          To be honest I think this is log of traffic that IP or transport header is too short.. But not sure why its saying pass... But I don't think that traffic is actually being passed to anything, not even pfsense.

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                            hulleyrob
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                            Oct 13 09:14:13 pfSense filterlog: 4294967295,16777216,,0,pppoe0,short,pass,in,4,0x0,,245,35606,0,none,17,udp,27,103.240.140.10,IP_REMOVED,3266,990,7
                            Oct 13 09:14:13 pfSense filterlog: 4294967295,16777216,,0,pppoe0,short,pass,in,4,0x0,,245,35608,0,none,17,udp,27,103.240.140.10,IP_REMOVED,2427,389,7
                            Oct 13 09:14:13 pfSense filterlog: 4294967295,16777216,,0,pppoe0,short,pass,in,4,0x0,,245,35605,0,none,17,udp,27,103.240.140.10,IP_REMOVED,1862,1025,7
                            Oct 13 09:14:13 pfSense filterlog: 4294967295,16777216,,0,pppoe0,short,pass,in,4,0x0,,245,35607,0,none,17,udp,27,103.240.140.10,IP_REMOVED,570,995,7
                            Oct 13 09:14:13 pfSense filterlog: 4294967295,16777216,,0,pppoe0,short,pass,in,4,0x0,,245,35604,0,none,17,udp,27,103.240.140.10,IP_REMOVED,493,514,7
                            Oct 13 09:14:13 pfSense filterlog: 4294967295,16777216,,0,pppoe0,short,pass,in,4,0x0,,245,35609,0,none,17,udp,27,103.240.140.10,IP_REMOVED,2375,445,7
                            Oct 13 09:14:13 pfSense filterlog: 4294967295,16777216,,0,pppoe0,short,pass,in,4,0x0,,245,35602,0,none,17,udp,27,103.240.140.10,IP_REMOVED,162,546,7
                            Oct 13 09:14:13 pfSense filterlog: 4294967295,16777216,,0,pppoe0,short,pass,in,4,0x0,,245,35603,0,none,17,udp,27,103.240.140.10,IP_REMOVED,3871,547,7
                            

                            Here are the entries from my log file.

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                            • johnpozJ
                              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                              So it seems these are short, ie something wrong with them... But the question is why are they getting logged as passed.. If they are short - they should just be dropped.

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                                hulleyrob @johnpoz
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                                @johnpoz if thats all it is it will be a relief as you saw on the screenshot above it looked like something had opened up all those ports.

                                What do I do now, is it worth reporting this somewhere for investigation?

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                                • johnpozJ
                                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                                  I would hope @jimp or @Derelict might be able to give more details of these "short" log entries..

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                                  • jimpJ
                                    jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
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                                    I can't remember the last time I saw one marked short. It might be a fragment.

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                                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                                      But the question is why is marked pass?

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                                      • jimpJ
                                        jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
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                                        If it's a fragment that is part of an existing connection, it would be passed. It might be that the state recently expired or was purged for some other reason so it was passed in but NAT didn't get applied, for example.

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                                        • johnpozJ
                                          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                          last edited by johnpoz

                                          I doubt its frag, since that is a different counter - see my output from
                                          pfctl -s info

                                          above.

                                          From the logs he lists I doubt its part of an existing connection.. From everything I find short should be dropped, so why is it logged as if it passed?

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                                          • jimpJ
                                            jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
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                                            I'm not sure, unless it's being misinterpreted by filterlog.

                                            If you can reproduce it reliably, you could capture the pflog output directly and pipe it through tcpdump (as described on https://www.openbsd.org/faq/pf/logging.html ) and see if that agrees.

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