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    • JKnottJ
      JKnott @tomli
      last edited by

      @tomli

      Just place a rule that passes all ahead of it. Rules are done in order, with first match.

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      • johnpozJ
        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
        last edited by johnpoz

        @tomli said in Default deny rule IPv4:

        Lan1 to Lan2 asymmetric route traffic.

        Why and the F would your traffic between lans be asymmetrical - if it is, that is what you should be fixing.

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          tomli
          last edited by

          Hi all,

          Just place a rule that passes all ahead of it. Rules are done in order, with first match.

          How can i set the user rule has the high priority then the default deny rule ipv4 rule set?

          Thanks,
          Tom

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          • johnpozJ
            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
            last edited by johnpoz

            Your not going to pass asymmetrical traffic.. Pfsense needs to see the syn to create the state..

            What the user needs to do is draw up their network, post it here - why would anyone on purpose want their network to be asymmetrical, and then do some hack on their firewall to pass said traffic.

            So we can discuss how to correctly set it up so its NOT asymmetrical

            2 possible work a rounds is source natting or host routing.. But the best solution is just to not do it in the first place.

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            • JKnottJ
              JKnott @tomli
              last edited by

              @tomli said in Default deny rule IPv4:

              How can i set the user rule has the high priority then the default deny rule ipv4 rule set?

              As I mentioned, those rules are processed in order and stop at the first match. Putting it anywhere in the list will put it ahead of the default deny will put it first. Firewalls normally start with just a deny all rule and you enable what you want by creating rules to allow it. If you really want allow all, just put it where you want it in the list.

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              • DerelictD
                Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
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                That will only work if the blocked traffic is a SYN. That is pretty much never the case where asymmetry is involved.

                I'm with @johnpoz . Fix the asymmetry.

                If you really don't want to for some inexplicable reason, your best bet is checking the static route filtering box in System > Advanced, Firewall & NAT.

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                • stephenw10S
                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                  last edited by

                  Yeah, the real solution here is to remove the asymmetric route.

                  However you can pass asymmetric traffic it just requires firewall rules with additional options:
                  https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/firewall/troubleshooting-blocked-log-entries-due-to-asymmetric-routing.html#manual-fix

                  Steve

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                  • johnpozJ
                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                    last edited by

                    Bad idea to show users work a rounds that might be ok in a tech pinch where production needs to be up NOW, and you will actually fix it asap.. But give a user a button to press that allows what they are doing to function.. Be it a mess or not - and it will most likely stay that way.

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                    • stephenw10S
                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                      last edited by

                      Yeah, I hear you.

                      To be clear, if I wasn't, removing asymmetry should be the first option here. Sloppy state work-arounds are for when you have no other option.

                      Steve

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                      • DerelictD
                        Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                        last edited by

                        There is always another option. :)

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