Netgate Discussion Forum
    • Categories
    • Recent
    • Tags
    • Popular
    • Users
    • Search
    • Register
    • Login

    Approach to troubleshoot a very slow connection to a single website. - solved

    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Firewalling
    31 Posts 7 Posters 2.3k Views 6 Watching
    Loading More Posts
    • Oldest to Newest
    • Newest to Oldest
    • Most Votes
    Reply
    • Reply as topic
    Log in to reply
    This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
    • M Offline
      mervincm @NogBadTheBad
      last edited by

      @NogBadTheBad
      https://meet.alberta.ca
      It is cisco virtual meeting VC for a customer of mine.
      it loads virtually instantly everywhere I try it other than through my pfsense firewall.

      NogBadTheBadN 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
      • ikifarI Offline
        ikifar
        last edited by

        Contact your ISP?
        What are you running pfSense on?
        Your not in a double NAT are you?

        M 2 Replies Last reply Reply Quote 0
        • NogBadTheBadN Offline
          NogBadTheBad @mervincm
          last edited by

          @mervincm

          Looks fine from behind my pfSense router:-

          Screenshot 2019-11-20 at 16.32.56.png

          Andy

          1 x Netgate SG-4860 - 3 x Linksys LGS308P - 1 x Aruba InstantOn AP22

          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
          • PippinP Offline
            Pippin
            last edited by

            Try ticking "IP Do-Not-Fragment compatibility"

            I gloomily came to the ironic conclusion that if you take a highly intelligent person and give them the best possible, elite education, then you will most likely wind up with an academic who is completely impervious to reality.
            Halton Arp

            M JKnottJ 3 Replies Last reply Reply Quote 0
            • M Offline
              mervincm @Pippin
              last edited by

              @Pippin I will look that up and test, thank you for the suggestion.

              1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
              • M Offline
                mervincm @ikifar
                last edited by

                @ikifar I don’t think it’s the ISP because when I bypass the pfSense firewall by plugging the test PC directly to the ISP link (thus on a public IP address) the problem goes away.

                1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                • JKnottJ Offline
                  JKnott @Pippin
                  last edited by

                  @Pippin said in Approach to troubleshoot a very slow connection to a single website.:

                  Try ticking "IP Do-Not-Fragment compatibility"

                  I just looked that up in the docs and found this:

                  "This option is a workaround for operating systems that generate fragmented packets with the don’t fragment (DF) bit set. Linux NFS (Network File System) is known to do this, as well as some VoIP systems.

                  When this option is enabled, the firewall will not drop these malformed packets but instead clear the don’t fragment bit. The firewall will also randomize the IP identification field of outgoing packets to compensate for operating systems that set the DF bit but set a zero IP identification header field."

                  Given an OS fragmenting before sending and setting the DNF is entirely normal, doesn't this reflect a bug with pfSense/FreeBSD? No router should be changing that flag.

                  PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                  i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                  UniFi AC-Lite access point

                  I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

                  1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                  • PippinP Offline
                    Pippin
                    last edited by

                    I don't know if it is a bug.
                    It solved my problem described in the link so I just had a hunch:
                    https://forum.netgate.com/topic/138124/posting-to-a-forum-issue/21

                    I gloomily came to the ironic conclusion that if you take a highly intelligent person and give them the best possible, elite education, then you will most likely wind up with an academic who is completely impervious to reality.
                    Halton Arp

                    1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                    • M Offline
                      mervincm @ikifar
                      last edited by

                      @ikifar no double NAT, and dedicated hardware
                      https://www.newegg.ca/gigabyte-ga-c1007un-d-mini-itx/p/N82E16813128598

                      ikifarI 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                      • ikifarI Offline
                        ikifar @mervincm
                        last edited by

                        @mervincm Ok well I am able to visit the site here at home and I am running pfSense, I assume you don't have any caching so that can't be the issue. Maybe try the file system check to get to this in the pfsense console select the option to reboot (5) then select the option to do a filesystem check which should be F

                        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                        • johnpozJ Offline
                          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                          last edited by

                          @mervincm said in Approach to troubleshoot a very slow connection to a single website.:

                          (thus on a public IP address) the problem goes away.

                          But this public ip address changes right... Do what @NogBadTheBad did and lets see what your browser says about the loading and where the problem is..

                          An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools
                          If you get confused: Listen to the Music Play
                          Please don't Chat/PM me for help, unless mod related
                          SG-4860 25.07.1 | Lab VMs 2.8.1, 25.07.1

                          M 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                          • M Offline
                            mervincm @Pippin
                            last edited by

                            @Pippin thanks for the hint but it didn't make a difference.

                            1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                            • M Offline
                              mervincm @johnpoz
                              last edited by mervincm

                              @johnpoz
                              I happen to have a mac so I pulled up safari - web inspector and I get a the same issue. It records for about 12 seconds and stops thinking the page is loaded, but it's a good minute at least from complete.
                              Screen Shot 2019-11-20 at 8.35.13 PM.png Screen Shot 2019-11-20 at 8.35.54 PM.png Screen Shot 2019-11-20 at 8.37.42 PM.png Screen Shot 2019-11-20 at 8.38.45 PM.png

                              ikifarI 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                              • M Offline
                                mervincm
                                last edited by

                                and here is what it looks like from the same system, but connected to LTE
                                Screen Shot 2019-11-20 at 8.46.44 PM.png

                                and directly to my ISP
                                Screen Shot 2019-11-20 at 8.56.07 PM.png

                                1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                • ikifarI Offline
                                  ikifar @mervincm
                                  last edited by

                                  @mervincm Well do you have anything like squid that could be breaking https

                                  M 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                  • M Offline
                                    mervincm @ikifar
                                    last edited by

                                    @ikifar
                                    the only packages I have installed are acme,bandwidthd,openvpn-client-export,RRD_Summary

                                    I might have run snort on this install but that would have been a couple years back.

                                    ikifarI 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                    • ikifarI Offline
                                      ikifar @mervincm
                                      last edited by

                                      @mervincm so snort is definitely not on the system then

                                      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                      • ikifarI Offline
                                        ikifar @mervincm
                                        last edited by

                                        @mervincm does the website work as expected on the stable version of pfSense in your setup?

                                        M 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                        • M Offline
                                          mervincm @ikifar
                                          last edited by

                                          @ikifar I will try a fresh install on a spare HDD on the weekend if I can't get this going by then.

                                          M 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                          • M Offline
                                            mervincm @mervincm
                                            last edited by

                                            @mervincm

                                            On a spare test system I installed stable version of pfsense, created a fresh xml backup on main system, restored it to the test system, and the issue was gone.

                                            Wondering if it was a stable 2.4 vs 2.5 issue, I then did an in-place update to the test system, taking it to 2.5 dev. The issue was still gone.

                                            I am not sure if it is a hardware issue, or just a currupt install, but the next step will be to blow away my install on the primary system, restore from backup, and see what happens.

                                            M 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                            • First post
                                              Last post
                                            Copyright 2025 Rubicon Communications LLC (Netgate). All rights reserved.