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    Approach to troubleshoot a very slow connection to a single website. - solved

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    • JKnottJ
      JKnott @Pippin
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      @Pippin said in Approach to troubleshoot a very slow connection to a single website.:

      Try ticking "IP Do-Not-Fragment compatibility"

      I just looked that up in the docs and found this:

      "This option is a workaround for operating systems that generate fragmented packets with the don’t fragment (DF) bit set. Linux NFS (Network File System) is known to do this, as well as some VoIP systems.

      When this option is enabled, the firewall will not drop these malformed packets but instead clear the don’t fragment bit. The firewall will also randomize the IP identification field of outgoing packets to compensate for operating systems that set the DF bit but set a zero IP identification header field."

      Given an OS fragmenting before sending and setting the DNF is entirely normal, doesn't this reflect a bug with pfSense/FreeBSD? No router should be changing that flag.

      PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
      i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
      UniFi AC-Lite access point

      I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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      • PippinP
        Pippin
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        I don't know if it is a bug.
        It solved my problem described in the link so I just had a hunch:
        https://forum.netgate.com/topic/138124/posting-to-a-forum-issue/21

        I gloomily came to the ironic conclusion that if you take a highly intelligent person and give them the best possible, elite education, then you will most likely wind up with an academic who is completely impervious to reality.
        Halton Arp

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          mervincm @ikifar
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          @ikifar no double NAT, and dedicated hardware
          https://www.newegg.ca/gigabyte-ga-c1007un-d-mini-itx/p/N82E16813128598

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          • ikifarI
            ikifar @mervincm
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            @mervincm Ok well I am able to visit the site here at home and I am running pfSense, I assume you don't have any caching so that can't be the issue. Maybe try the file system check to get to this in the pfsense console select the option to reboot (5) then select the option to do a filesystem check which should be F

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            • johnpozJ
              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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              @mervincm said in Approach to troubleshoot a very slow connection to a single website.:

              (thus on a public IP address) the problem goes away.

              But this public ip address changes right... Do what @NogBadTheBad did and lets see what your browser says about the loading and where the problem is..

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                mervincm @Pippin
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                @Pippin thanks for the hint but it didn't make a difference.

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                  mervincm @johnpoz
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                  @johnpoz
                  I happen to have a mac so I pulled up safari - web inspector and I get a the same issue. It records for about 12 seconds and stops thinking the page is loaded, but it's a good minute at least from complete.
                  Screen Shot 2019-11-20 at 8.35.13 PM.png Screen Shot 2019-11-20 at 8.35.54 PM.png Screen Shot 2019-11-20 at 8.37.42 PM.png Screen Shot 2019-11-20 at 8.38.45 PM.png

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                    mervincm
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                    and here is what it looks like from the same system, but connected to LTE
                    Screen Shot 2019-11-20 at 8.46.44 PM.png

                    and directly to my ISP
                    Screen Shot 2019-11-20 at 8.56.07 PM.png

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                    • ikifarI
                      ikifar @mervincm
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                      @mervincm Well do you have anything like squid that could be breaking https

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                        mervincm @ikifar
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                        @ikifar
                        the only packages I have installed are acme,bandwidthd,openvpn-client-export,RRD_Summary

                        I might have run snort on this install but that would have been a couple years back.

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                        • ikifarI
                          ikifar @mervincm
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                          @mervincm so snort is definitely not on the system then

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                          • ikifarI
                            ikifar @mervincm
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                            @mervincm does the website work as expected on the stable version of pfSense in your setup?

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                              mervincm @ikifar
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                              @ikifar I will try a fresh install on a spare HDD on the weekend if I can't get this going by then.

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                                mervincm @mervincm
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                                @mervincm

                                On a spare test system I installed stable version of pfsense, created a fresh xml backup on main system, restored it to the test system, and the issue was gone.

                                Wondering if it was a stable 2.4 vs 2.5 issue, I then did an in-place update to the test system, taking it to 2.5 dev. The issue was still gone.

                                I am not sure if it is a hardware issue, or just a currupt install, but the next step will be to blow away my install on the primary system, restore from backup, and see what happens.

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                                  mervincm @mervincm
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                                  @mervincm
                                  Well it appears to be hardware specific. I reinstalled from scratch today's dev build on the primary system hw and without even restoring my config, the problem is there.

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                                  • johnpozJ
                                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                                    Hardware makes no sense to be honest.. More likely you got a different connection from your isp, because when you changed to different system your mac address would be different and you would get a different IP.

                                    If it was hardware - why would it not be on like all sites.. Your just moving packets, pfsense doesn't even know what is the packets. It just moves them.. Pfsense doesn't know what site your talking to..

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                                      mervincm @johnpoz
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                                      @johnpoz None of this is really making any sense to me to be honest. You are correct I am getting a different public ip to one system and thus there will be somewhat different "connection"
                                      I can't imagine it would be significantly different but ...
                                      I suppose I can replace the mac in the working device with the mac from the problem device, get the same ip and see if the problem follows the mac.

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                                      • ikifarI
                                        ikifar @johnpoz
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                                        @johnpoz Either that or possibly the reinstall of pfSense

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                                        • johnpozJ
                                          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                                          If something wrong with pfsense, why is it only presenting itself with this 1 site?

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                                            mervincm @johnpoz
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                                            @johnpoz and I did reinstall it from scratch anyway. Absolutely vanilla install and the issue was there. It isn’t an obvious pfsense issue, I agree. I am left with unlikely scenarios more testing is required, starting with the Mac swap

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