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    pfSense on Hyper-V Home Setup questions.

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    • johnpozJ
      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
      last edited by johnpoz

      @provels said in pfSense on Hyper-V Home Setup questions.:

      I don't really see the point in a home setup, just more complexity.

      Do you have more things on this flat network than just your PC or a couple of devices - iot, stuff that is serving up to the internet, etc.. You would use vlans or other network segments as a means to secure your network..

      He doesn't need a modem - he needs an AP he can use his current device as just the modem and turn off its wifi.. Or use it as well as different non filtered wifi network that is on the "wan" side of pfsense.

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      • provelsP
        provels @johnpoz
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        @johnpoz No IoT, even though my refrigerator and dishwasher could talk to the world if I desired it. No Alexa or other because I would want an always-on mic in my house..., why? I have no desire to talk to any device unless it is a phone and there is a live body on the other end. Several network receivers, couple phones, Hyper-V host that is also my main workstation with pfSense and several other workstation OS, smart TV, and a lappy for RDP. I even run G wireless with MAC filtering and hidden SSIDs (the horror!) And it's just me, so.... no need for guest nets. And no FB or Twitter even, because that is just largely the toilet of the Internet. anyway. So there.

        Agreed, I know he doesn't need a modem, but he will have to buy something to do what he wants. Frankly I'd just ditch the gateway on EBay and buy discreet components. Kind of depends how many of his clients are in use simultaneously as well.

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        • johnpozJ
          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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          @provels said in pfSense on Hyper-V Home Setup questions.:

          I even run G wireless with MAC filtering and hidden SSIDs

          Because that is pointless ;) And you like added pain for no reason?

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          • provelsP
            provels @johnpoz
            last edited by provels

            @johnpoz Point? I have trusted devices in family, anyone else can pay for their own data.

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            • johnpozJ
              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
              last edited by johnpoz

              None - its pointless to do such a thing.. You just added complexity for ZERO reason other than your own grief.. But someone segmenting out their network for actually security reasons is pointless complexity?

              If you don't want someone on your wifi - then don't give them the PSK.. There is zero reason for mac filtering or not broadcasting the SSID.

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              • provelsP
                provels @johnpoz
                last edited by provels

                @johnpoz Well, if you can find me, feel free to hack my wireless. At any rate, it still depends WHY he wants to do it. Just because you CAN doesn't mean you SHOULD. Sort of how I feel about running a DC on a home net...

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                • uxmU
                  uxm
                  last edited by

                  So, for my pfsense, to be able to "talk" to the physical workstations on the network, there must be two external virtual switches on the hyperv hosts right?

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                  • provelsP
                    provels @uxm
                    last edited by provels

                    @uxm said in pfSense on Hyper-V Home Setup questions.:

                    So, for my pfsense, to be able to "talk" to the physical workstations on the network, there must be two external virtual switches on the hyperv hosts right?

                    Yep, and one pf interface min hooked to each.

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                    • uxmU
                      uxm @provels
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                      Sorry for returning back after so long. I had some personal issues and didnt have the time for pfsense. I will try to continue this project. So, I have a Hyper-V with 2 VMs. One is the pfsense VM and the other is my DC (for my Active Directory) with Windows 2012 R2 installed. The Hyper-V host has three NICs. I gave two nics for the pfsense (lan and wan) and one nic to my Windows 2012 R2 DC Server.

                      I have a netgear manageable switch. How many VLANs I have to create? Two right? One is the "wan side VLAN" and the other is the "LAN side VLAN" right?

                      Can you help me please?..

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                      • provelsP
                        provels @uxm
                        last edited by provels

                        @uxm As you have drawn this, you need no extra VLANS. Two External v-switches (WAN, LAN) created in Hyper-V and assigned to 2 of your physical NICs. WAN, LAN interfaces on pfSense assigned to the corresponding v-switch. The WAN v-switch NIC wired to your router's LAN interface and the LAN v-switch NIC hooked to your switch. Run through the web setup on pfSense and BANG! Internet! Add an AP off your switch for your phones and laptop, use the Asus's wireless as a guest net.

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                        • uxmU
                          uxm
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                          Thank you very much! Im starting right away! Thanks @provels !

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