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    • idscommI
      idscomm
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      for testing purposes tonight I used a separate NIC and setup a different Network for the IPTV11.png

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        rcmpayne @idscomm
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        @idscomm looks like it might be your IGMP Proxy or multicast being filtered

        https://www.dslreports.com/forum/r31118482-Yes-you-CAN-bypass-the-HomeHub-3000~start=330

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        • idscommI
          idscomm
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          Seems like I lost my internet now ......

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            rcmpayne
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            hummm, that's odd! Here are a few more screenshots

            WAN IPTV
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            LAN IPTV
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            LAN IPTV Rules: Ensure the IGMP rule has "Allow packets with IP options to pass. Otherwise they are blocked by default. This is usually only seen with multicast traffic." enabled
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            • idscommI
              idscomm
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              Everything looked fine. I'll do some research and review my settings in the next day or 2 and get back to you... I feel like it's close since I got the TV and Guide at least...

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                rcmpayne
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                ok let me know how you make out

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                  idscomm @rcmpayne
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                  @rcmpayne
                  Quick question in regards to the downstream. The original post on top of this page shows 10.50 network and you put 239. Network. What should the downstream be?

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                    autumnwalker
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                    @idscomm are you an Aliant user?

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                      idscomm @autumnwalker
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                      @autumnwalker
                      Yes I am. In Nova Scotia.

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                        jessej1984
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                        @jessej1984 said in How to get Bell Fibe in Quebec/Ontario (Internet and IPTV) working with pfSense:

                        @idscomm said in How to get Bell Fibe in Quebec/Ontario (Internet and IPTV) working with pfSense:

                        @autumnwalker
                        Yes I am. In Nova Scotia.

                        hablas español

                        quien habla español

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                        • stephenw10S
                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                          Why are you posting here in Spanish?

                          Please use the Spanish language section: https://forum.netgate.com/category/11/espa%C3%B1ol

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                            autumnwalker
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                            @idscomm said in How to get Bell Fibe in Quebec/Ontario (Internet and IPTV) working with pfSense:

                            @autumnwalker
                            Yes I am. In Nova Scotia.

                            I keep meaning to document my setup. Aliant functions completely differently from this guide (as you've discovered). All of my cable boxes are wired so I cannot speak to the wireless boxes / configuration, but with wired all of your set top boxes should be in the same LAN (VLAN) as your home network. In my experience 192.168.2.x was required. Changing it broke the STBs.

                            High level configuration notes:

                            • Fiber should come into your pfSense box somehow (media converter, direct GPON in SFP+ card, etc.).
                            • The port that acts as your WAN (where your fiber comes in) should have the MAC of your HH3K spoofed on it (otherwise you have to wait for Aliant to forget your lease - it's 10's of hours).
                            • pfSense should have the port that your Fibe comes in on tagged with VLAN 34 (IPTV) and VLAN 35 internet.
                            • You should have another NIC in your box that serves as your LAN port, everything else (including STBs) should connect to that.
                            • IGMP proxy should ONLY have upstream configured (leave downstream blank). Upstream should have networks 10.2.0.0/16, 10.237.0.0/16.
                            • You can use whatever DNS servers you want, but make sure that pfSense forwards fibreop.ca and iptv.microsoft.ca to Aliant DNS servers.
                            • You must create your own IPTV gateway based on the results of your packet sniffing.
                            • You must create two static routes for IPTV based on the gateway you just created: 10.2.0.0/16 (IPTV traffic) and 10.237.0.0/16 (IPTV DHCP).
                            • You will need to create firewall rules for your IPTV WAN connection (VLAN 34) which allow traffic to pass from WAN (VLAN 34) to LAN. This is the part that I have not refined any further than this guide. Make sure you allow IP Options on this firewall rule. You can make one for IPv4 and one for v6 or just one for both (I made two).

                            That's the config in a nutshell that works for me and has been working for several months now.

                            If you want to use your Cisco switch as your media converter I can help you with that too (that's what I'm doing).

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                              autumnwalker @idscomm
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                              @idscomm said in How to get Bell Fibe in Quebec/Ontario (Internet and IPTV) working with pfSense:

                              @rcmpayne ok, so I tested everything and I'd say I am almost there. The TV works but I lost connection after 10 sec ish. I remember seeing this issue earlier... any idea?

                              This is almost certainly an IGMP proxy issue - take a look at my post above. Excellent info here as to why the config in this article is incorrect: https://www.dslreports.com/forum/r32420749-

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                              • idscommI
                                idscomm @autumnwalker
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                                @autumnwalker @rcmpayne

                                Thanks for the replies guys. I fully intent to put up a full and updated Guide to help others as well... I think it's great to run Internet and TV on your own devices and not depends on Bell....

                                Now, I managed to get Internet and TV working today for half the day! All the apps (Youtube, Netflix and On Demand were working perfectly) ... no glitch so far. I used a separate NIC on the Pfsense Box (plugged a switch) and set my VAP on the same network Bell did in their router i.e.: 192.168.2.1 DHCP activated. My Wireless receivers are getting IPs in that range and it's all good. I had a glitch with my Internet but it ended up being caused by wrong default Gateway (for some reason the IPTV Gateway had been set by default). DNS and Gateway fixed and all good for the Internet.

                                My questions are:

                                • Regarding IGMP Proxy, why only Upstream and no down? Where did you get the 2 Networks (10.2.0.0/16, 10.237.0.0/16)? I have my Downstream set to 192.168.2.0/24 (FibeTV LAN) and my Upstream to 224.0.0.0/4 and 10.0.0.0/8

                                • In regards to DNS, my DHCP provides Bell DNS 47.55.55.55 & 142.166.166.166. Everything seems to work like that... Should I change something else in regards to fibreop.ca and iptv.microsoft.ca?

                                • 10.2.0.0/16 (IPTV traffic) and 10.237.0.0/16 (IPTV DHCP) still need to be created un Routes?

                                • So there is no need for the 239.0.0.0/8 route?

                                italicised text You will need to create firewall rules for your IPTV WAN connection (VLAN 34) which allow traffic to pass from WAN (VLAN 34) to LAN. This is the part that I have not refined any further than this guide. Make sure you allow IP Options on this firewall rule. You can make one for IPv4 and one for v6 or just one for both (I made two). I do not have this done but for now my Fibe TV LAN is wide open outbond... I don't have inbound rules on the WAN IP TV tho...

                                • Are you guys aware of any IPV6 being used by Bell? Should I still allow IPV6?
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                                  pjaneiro
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                                  I'm curious to see if you will get the PVR bug i've seen, A few people that have been using the PfSense setup get a slow pvr response after a few days of using it, watching live tv or apps work fine, but accessing/deleting recordings is slow and sometimes when you have a scheduled recording you won't get the info... rebooting the pvr seems to resolve the issue.

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                                    pjaneiro
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                                    well, I was curious if the pvr problem was still there, in my case sure is...after an hour of use or so, all the pvr functions become sluggish, this does not happen with my er-x router from ubiquity, I’m also wondering why is it we need to bridge the interfaces to get iptv to work ? i know that if i don’t do that i get tv for about 10 seconds and then it stops, I read it has to do with igmp, but i’m using the latest version and i tried connecting the fibe receiver directly to the ethernet card, my switch is L2/l3 and snooping is enabled, but that didn’t change anything

                                    If anyone on here is indeed using pfsense with their gpon plugged in directly to their pc I would be curious to see how they have it set up, because in the time being i’m paying for 1.5gbit but because of the ubiquity er-c flimsy hardware i get about 800mbits

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                                      idscomm @pjaneiro
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                                      @pjaneiro
                                      Hi there, my setup is not bridge... I am using 2 NIC, one for the Internet Connection of my IPTV (WAN) and the other one is the LAN IPTV on a different NIC. Like I mentioned earlier if you follow my recent posts (the last 203 days) I had some issues as well but got it working fine today. I did not test the PVR to see if I was having the same issues you mentioned but I certainly will within the next few days. Once I am satisfied that everything is working fine I will write a new port/blog detailing all the steps, thanks to @autumnwalker and @rcmpayne who helped me a lot.

                                      I am still tweaking my install as I believe I need to review some of my settings.

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                                          autumnwalker
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                                          @idscomm take a look at this post re: IGMP config https://www.dslreports.com/forum/r32420749-

                                          @pjaneiro you should not bridge your WAN and LAN for IPTV to work. You should have VLAN 34 tagged on your WAN interface (if you're with Aliant, it's a different VLAN for Bell) and your routing should be setup per my post above so that IPTV multicast traffic is passed to your LAN port.

                                          I do not have the issues you describe with my PVR.

                                          You should make sure that any downstream switch in your network is capable of IGMP snooping otherwise you will likely flood your LAN with multicast traffic.

                                          These cable boxes are designed to be in your local network on the same IP range as everything else, not bridged to Bell's IPTV network.

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                                            autumnwalker @CrazyMitchy
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                                            @CrazyMitchy said in How to get Bell Fibe in Quebec/Ontario (Internet and IPTV) working with pfSense:

                                            Would you guys know why for 5-10 minutes I can watch the TV, then the PVR says disconnected, then it comes back on its own? I've followed you guys instruction, and everything works (mainly)

                                            Is it a IGMP issue?

                                            IGMP is usually seconds, not minutes.

                                            Do you have pfSense forwarding fibreop.ca and iptv.microsoft.ca to Aliant DNS servers? AFAIK if you don't have iptv.microsoft.ca forwarded the PVR will do weird things.

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