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    How to get Bell Fibe in Quebec/Ontario (Internet and IPTV) working with pfSense

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      pjaneiro
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      I'm curious to see if you will get the PVR bug i've seen, A few people that have been using the PfSense setup get a slow pvr response after a few days of using it, watching live tv or apps work fine, but accessing/deleting recordings is slow and sometimes when you have a scheduled recording you won't get the info... rebooting the pvr seems to resolve the issue.

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        pjaneiro
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        well, I was curious if the pvr problem was still there, in my case sure is...after an hour of use or so, all the pvr functions become sluggish, this does not happen with my er-x router from ubiquity, I’m also wondering why is it we need to bridge the interfaces to get iptv to work ? i know that if i don’t do that i get tv for about 10 seconds and then it stops, I read it has to do with igmp, but i’m using the latest version and i tried connecting the fibe receiver directly to the ethernet card, my switch is L2/l3 and snooping is enabled, but that didn’t change anything

        If anyone on here is indeed using pfsense with their gpon plugged in directly to their pc I would be curious to see how they have it set up, because in the time being i’m paying for 1.5gbit but because of the ubiquity er-c flimsy hardware i get about 800mbits

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          idscomm @pjaneiro
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          @pjaneiro
          Hi there, my setup is not bridge... I am using 2 NIC, one for the Internet Connection of my IPTV (WAN) and the other one is the LAN IPTV on a different NIC. Like I mentioned earlier if you follow my recent posts (the last 203 days) I had some issues as well but got it working fine today. I did not test the PVR to see if I was having the same issues you mentioned but I certainly will within the next few days. Once I am satisfied that everything is working fine I will write a new port/blog detailing all the steps, thanks to @autumnwalker and @rcmpayne who helped me a lot.

          I am still tweaking my install as I believe I need to review some of my settings.

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              autumnwalker
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              @idscomm take a look at this post re: IGMP config https://www.dslreports.com/forum/r32420749-

              @pjaneiro you should not bridge your WAN and LAN for IPTV to work. You should have VLAN 34 tagged on your WAN interface (if you're with Aliant, it's a different VLAN for Bell) and your routing should be setup per my post above so that IPTV multicast traffic is passed to your LAN port.

              I do not have the issues you describe with my PVR.

              You should make sure that any downstream switch in your network is capable of IGMP snooping otherwise you will likely flood your LAN with multicast traffic.

              These cable boxes are designed to be in your local network on the same IP range as everything else, not bridged to Bell's IPTV network.

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                autumnwalker @CrazyMitchy
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                @CrazyMitchy said in How to get Bell Fibe in Quebec/Ontario (Internet and IPTV) working with pfSense:

                Would you guys know why for 5-10 minutes I can watch the TV, then the PVR says disconnected, then it comes back on its own? I've followed you guys instruction, and everything works (mainly)

                Is it a IGMP issue?

                IGMP is usually seconds, not minutes.

                Do you have pfSense forwarding fibreop.ca and iptv.microsoft.ca to Aliant DNS servers? AFAIK if you don't have iptv.microsoft.ca forwarded the PVR will do weird things.

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                    autumnwalker @CrazyMitchy
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                    @CrazyMitchy said in How to get Bell Fibe in Quebec/Ontario (Internet and IPTV) working with pfSense:

                    @autumnwalker I've missed that requirement, what would those DNS be? Is it going to be different if I'm with Bell Fibe (in Quebec)

                    As far as I know Quebec uses the "Bell" configuration, not the "Aliant" configuration. My instructions would not apply to you. I cannot comment on the Bell config unfortunately.

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                      pjaneiro @autumnwalker
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                      @autumnwalker Hi, my pvr is connected to a separate NIC on the pfsense box directly, igmp is enabled on pfsense, but if i do not bridge wan iptv interface with the nic, the tv does not work, when rebooting the fibe pvr and for the green light takes a while to become solid...

                      Just wondering why is it so complicated to get this going with pfsense, it took me less 10 min to get it all working with a ubiquity box, same setup too, one port for lan and one port for fibe receiver

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                        autumnwalker
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                        @pjaneiro I cannot comment on the Ubiquiti stuff.

                        pfSense is not a switch, it is a router. You can configure it to work like a switch with bridging LAN ports, but out of the box it doesn't work like a switch and it isn't intended to.

                        Over simplifying - each port is intended to have one function (VLANs are a different discussion), but think of each port of being either in or out and each in / out is a different network location / segment. If you have WAN in from Bell on one port and LAN out on another port that routing is configured in pfSense automagically on initial setup. If you add your IPTV box to another port on pfSense it doesn't automatically know how to route the traffic. When you bridge it to WAN, it basically just puts your IPTV box in Bell's data centre - it isn't intended to function that way.

                        The "right" way to do this is to have WAN in from bell with VLAN 34, 35 (for Aliant users only) and a LAN out (no VLAN required). Put a switch behind your LAN port on pfSense (make sure it does IGMP snooping), and plug your IPTV boxes and all your other network gear into that.

                        Bell (internet) > (pfSsense WAN > pfSense LAN) > switch > your network gear

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                            idscomm @autumnwalker
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                            @autumnwalker
                            Thanks for the link, very interesting post, helped me understand a bit better. That JamesMTL seems to be very knowledgeable!!

                            I will have to tune my IGMP Proxy, DNS and Rules a bit. Do you have any IPV6 traffic going through or not?

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                              pjaneiro @idscomm
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                              @idscomm

                              in my case there is when the pvr is booting up, also in the case you ever need to replace the hard drive it’s also needed, i don’t believe it needs it while viewing live tv or recording

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                                autumnwalker @idscomm
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                                @idscomm said in How to get Bell Fibe in Quebec/Ontario (Internet and IPTV) working with pfSense:

                                @autumnwalker
                                Thanks for the link, very interesting post, helped me understand a bit better. That JamesMTL seems to be very knowledgeable!!

                                I will have to tune my IGMP Proxy, DNS and Rules a bit. Do you have any IPV6 traffic going through or not?

                                No, there does not appear to be any IPv6 going through for IPTV.

                                JamesMTL has helped me tune my config a lot. Very knowledgeable!

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                                  autumnwalker @CrazyMitchy
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                                  @CrazyMitchy said in How to get Bell Fibe in Quebec/Ontario (Internet and IPTV) working with pfSense:

                                  @autumnwalker Everything else in your instructions work A1 though, I'm looking at my firewall and don't see my PVR trying to contact anything other than routes I created at the start. How did you go about finding those Aliant DNS?

                                  Does Bell in Quebec use DHCP or PPPoE? In Atlantic Canada (Bell Aliant) we use DHCP and no PPPoE. The DNS servers are pulled down with the DHCP request that the GPON sends out to Aliant. Once I had them I swapped to my own DNS and setup the two URLs in my DNS Resolver to forward to the Aliant DNS servers.

                                  I strongly suspect that Quebec is not the same as Aliant ...

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                                      pjaneiro @CrazyMitchy
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                                      these are the dns entries you need to rebind

                                      207.164.234.129
                                      207.164.234.193
                                      10.2.127.228
                                      10.2.127.196

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                                        autumnwalker @CrazyMitchy
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                                        @CrazyMitchy said in How to get Bell Fibe in Quebec/Ontario (Internet and IPTV) working with pfSense:

                                        We use VLAN35 PPPOE for Internet, but VLAN 36 DHCP for the TV. So I'd have to find Bell's DNS for Quebec?

                                        The other thing to consider is that fibreop.ca is something specific to Atlantic Canada / Aliant. You will need to follow different configuration instructions than I have provided.

                                        There is no value in you forwarding fibreop.ca to the Bell DNS servers; however, from what I've read, you should forward iptv.microsoft.ca.

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                                          rcmpayne @autumnwalker
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                                          @autumnwalker Just to let you know I’m fully working and I’m in the Halifax area With fibreOp

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                                            idscomm @rcmpayne
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                                            @rcmpayne What did you set for rules? Did you follow the guide @autumnwalker provided me?

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