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    • stephenw10S
      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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      Ha. Maybe the few more upvotes I gave you.... though the level is set at 5.

      You can use the shellcmd package to add that without manually editing the config.

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        Okijames @stephenw10
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        @stephenw10 Just glad it worked! Roger on using shellcmd package, I have not tried it.

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          pauloalb @Okijames
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          Excelent tutorial @Okijames ! I am currently running pfSense235 from a usb stick and as i can now access all ports, i will make an hdd install and follow it to configure the steelhead 250 i got.

          A little off topic but this unit came with 1gb pc2-3200 ecc rec ram stick and an empty dimm slot. You have any idea of that is the max ram this can take using both slots?

          cheers,
          Paulo

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            Okijames @pauloalb
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            @pauloalb Max RAM I have tried is 4GB in my 550s using 2 2GB pc2-3200 ECC sticks. The 250/550 are based on the same "Minnow" chassis and motherboard so will likely be ok with 4GB too.

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              Okijames @Okijames
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              So this thread prompted me to dig though boxes in the o'l garage and I found a Steelhead 770. Decent specs on this puppy.

              -CPU Xeon E3-1125C v2 (4core 2.5Ghz)
              -RAM 4GB with 2 x 2GB DDR3 ECC sticks in two of four available slots.
              -2 2.5" SATA drives (320GB 72K HDD, 160GB Intel DC S3500 SSD)
              -NICS 6 Intel Gigabit NICs total
              -2 "normal" NICs as Primary and Aux,
              -4 (2 pairs) bypass type NICs.
              -NIC bypass control is available in the BIOS plain as day

              Installation of pfSense 2.4.4 was a breeze. All 6 NICs show up, no smbus shenanigans needed.

              I'm happy with my APU2 for pfSense, but this thing is just begging to replace it. Someone stop me! :)

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              • johnpozJ
                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                @Okijames said in PfSense on a Riverbed Steelhead:

                Steelhead 770

                Only drawback to a box like that might be power consumption.. Its going to how much higher than your APU2?

                And fans - how much louder is it going to be?

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                • stephenw10S
                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                  Yeah hard to beat the APU2 in terms of power consumption and noise. 😉
                  But it's probably not that bad. I would guess ~30W. No clue about noise. I they gave the cooling setup right it need not be loud but...

                  Steve

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                    Okijames @johnpoz
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                    Thanks @johnpoz!

                    Yeah, 3-4x on the power consumption. Fans, though pretty quiet, are 100% louder than the fanless APU2.

                    Thinking I'll bump up the RAM and disk capacity and use it to experiment with various Container platforms.

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                    • johnpozJ
                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                      Is it a SD770? From quick look those are about 50W idle - so more like 5-6x your apu2, and noise looks like about 45dba.. While not all that bad - sure isn't quiet..

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                        Okijames @johnpoz
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                        CX-770 currently idling at ~27W, not bad. And honestly the fans are pretty quiet, faint background noise sitting right next to me on a desk. Might be near silent if I replaced them with some nice Noctuas.

                        Under load though, I'm sure it wouldn't be quite so pleasant.

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                          Okijames @Okijames
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                          2 Noctua NF-A4x20 PWM ordered. :)

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                          • stephenw10S
                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator @stephenw10
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                            @stephenw10 said in PfSense on a Riverbed Steelhead:

                            I would guess ~30W

                            @Okijames said in PfSense on a Riverbed Steelhead:

                            currently idling at ~27W

                            Ha. 😁

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                              freska99 @pauloalb
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                              @pauloalb

                              I have a Riverbed 1050L with 2 InPath or 4Gbe NICs and am trying to enable them for PfSense, except the I2C Layout looks a bit different. I have been probing with i2ctools.

                              [root@localhost~]# i2cdetect -l
                              i2c-3 i2c nvkm-0000:08:00.0-bus-0005 I2C adapter
                              i2c-10 i2c nvkm-0000:08:00.0-aux-000c I2C adapter
                              i2c-1 i2c nvkm-0000:08:00.0-bus-0001 I2C adapter
                              i2c-8 i2c nvkm-0000:08:00.0-aux-000a I2C adapter
                              i2c-6 i2c nvkm-0000:08:00.0-bus-0008 I2C adapter
                              i2c-4 i2c nvkm-0000:08:00.0-bus-0006 I2C adapter
                              i2c-11 i2c nvkm-0000:08:00.0-aux-000d I2C adapter
                              i2c-2 i2c nvkm-0000:08:00.0-bus-0002 I2C adapter
                              i2c-0 i2c nvkm-0000:08:00.0-bus-0000 I2C adapter
                              i2c-9 i2c nvkm-0000:08:00.0-aux-000b I2C adapter
                              i2c-7 i2c nvkm-0000:08:00.0-bus-0009 I2C adapter
                              i2c-5 i2c nvkm-0000:08:00.0-bus-0007 I2C adapter
                              i2c-12 smbus SMBus I801 adapter at 0400 SMBus adapter <<---- I am assuming it is i2c-12 or the SMBUS

                              However I found several slave addresses:

                              [root@localhost ~]# i2cdetect -y 12
                              0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 a b c d e f
                              00: -- -- -- -- -- 08 -- -- -- -- -- -- --
                              10: -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 18 19 1a 1b 1c 1d -- 1f
                              20: -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 2f
                              30: -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
                              40: -- -- -- -- 44 -- -- -- 48 49 4a 4b 4c 4d 4e 4f
                              50: 50 -- 52 -- 54 55 56 57 58 -- -- -- -- -- -- --
                              60: 60 61 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 69 -- -- -- -- -- --
                              70: -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
                              [root@localhost ~]#

                              No 0x24, but 0x48 appears with the following:

                              [root@localhost ~]# i2cdump -y 12 0x48
                              No size specified (using byte-data access)
                              0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 a b c d e f 0123456789abcdef
                              00: 27 00 4b 50 XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX '.KPXXXXXXXXXXXX
                              10: XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
                              20: XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
                              30: XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
                              40: XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
                              50: XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
                              60: XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
                              70: XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
                              80: XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
                              90: XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
                              a0: XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
                              b0: XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
                              c0: XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
                              d0: XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
                              e0: XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
                              f0: XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

                              From the command:
                              smbmsg -s 0x48 -c 0x55 -06 0x03 0xfc 0x01 0xfe 0x66 0x99
                              I gather it means write 6 Bytes to SMBUS address 0x48 with initial command byte of 0x55 the data "0x03 0xfc 0x01 0xfe 0x66 0x99"

                              But in my case or for the RB1050L, it looks like 0x48 is only 4Bytes wide, and the command sends anywhere from 6Bytes for "Universal Mode" and 8Bytes for "Bypass/NoLine"

                              Can anyone that has this working please provide a dump of their 0x48 of their SMBUS so we can see what data should be there? Will the data we write show up at that address location? I don't feel comfortable writing things to random addresses that can potentially damage something.

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                                Okijames @freska99
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                                For the add-on cards you're probably best off using native drivers from the manufacturer. Silicom was a popular supplier, and they offer FreeBSD drivers, see if you can find your card here...

                                https://www.silicom-usa.com/cats/server-adapters/networking-bypass-adapters/gigabit-ethernet-bypass-networking-server-adapters/

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                                  freska99 @Okijames
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                                  @Okijames The InPath NICs in the Riverbed 1050 which I have, are actually embedded into the motherboard.

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                                    Okijames @freska99
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                                    @freska99 Oops, sorry memory isn't what it used to be. :)

                                    So the problem from here is multifold. We would need to know several things, some easier than others...

                                    -What CPU chipset / smbus controller is in use? Clues in dmesg and/or physically looking at the chips

                                    -What's the command structure for said chipset? Find Intel docs

                                    -Find the correct smbus address for bypass control. As you've done above, it is a moderate amount of poking/guessing.

                                    -Guess the correct byte sequence to flip the relays. This seems pretty difficult! The numbers for the 250/550 were taken from code in another project. I have no idea how the original author figured out the correct byte sequence. Guessing he had inside knowledge.

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                                      Okijames @Okijames
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                                      FWIW I'm assuming you tried looking for settings in the BIOS. Wishful thinking, but the 570/770 do have such BIOS settings so maybe...

                                      Or setting the nics to stop failing to bypass in RIOS?

                                      no interface <interface-name> fail-to-bypass enable

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                                        Okijames @Okijames
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                                        Whatever you do, please find and read the chipset docs before poking around with the smb read or write commands. I somehow permanently set my 550's 1.66GHz CPU to 1.33GHz. No telling what else I could have screwed up if, for example, I randomly guessed byte sequences :)

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                                          freska99 @Okijames
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                                          @Okijames Thanks for the quick reply:

                                          The board looks like a modified Tyan server board running with Intel ICHx SMBUS controller with Intel Xeon 2Core 1.88GHz, I was able to read from the SMBUS using ICHx drivers in both Linux and under RWEverything in Windows (although in Windows the address is 2x or double the HEX value given to the i2cdump command for some odd reason)

                                          Yes I already tried looking in the BIOs there are only options to enable / disable the PRI/AUX Interfaces. The command 'no interface <interface> fail-to-bypass enable' has also been tried. All it does is causes the ports to go into "BLOCK MODE" so it will neither bypass nor work (under the OS it shows as Ethernet Disconnected). The BYP/BLK LED is turned on. Bypass causes the same issue with Ethernet Cable Disconnected except the relays form a physical path from one physical port to the other.

                                          The real question I am trying to answer is what is the address of the microcontroller driving the relays. I am thinking that there might be a "signature" or "fingerprint" if someone dumped the contents of address 0x48 from the 250/550, that the contents might be similar to what I have on the 1050 so I can co-relate the correct address.

                                          I will try taking a look inside for what specific chips are being used tomorrow. I am quite paranoid about writing anything to SMBUS especially when hardware models/revisions do not match the python script or what others are discussing, so more research is needed.

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                                          • stephenw10S
                                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                            One of the problem you have here is that a lot of smbus devices are auto-addressing. The controller we were looking at appears at a different address in FreeBSD than it does in Linux. Your may well also.

                                            Steve

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