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    How to get Bell Fibe in Quebec/Ontario (Internet and IPTV) working with pfSense

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      autumnwalker @CrazyMitchy
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      @CrazyMitchy said in How to get Bell Fibe in Quebec/Ontario (Internet and IPTV) working with pfSense:

      We use VLAN35 PPPOE for Internet, but VLAN 36 DHCP for the TV. So I'd have to find Bell's DNS for Quebec?

      The other thing to consider is that fibreop.ca is something specific to Atlantic Canada / Aliant. You will need to follow different configuration instructions than I have provided.

      There is no value in you forwarding fibreop.ca to the Bell DNS servers; however, from what I've read, you should forward iptv.microsoft.ca.

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        rcmpayne @autumnwalker
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        @autumnwalker Just to let you know I’m fully working and I’m in the Halifax area With fibreOp

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          idscomm @rcmpayne
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          @rcmpayne What did you set for rules? Did you follow the guide @autumnwalker provided me?

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            idscomm
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            The TV is working but now that I have done more test I noticed that if I pause Live TV, it tells me that I lost connection and go back to live TV.... Any ideas?

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              autumnwalker @idscomm
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              @idscomm are you trying to pause on a non-DVR STB or on the DVR itself?

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                idscomm @autumnwalker
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                @autumnwalker That's the DVR itself

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                  autumnwalker @idscomm
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                  @idscomm said in How to get Bell Fibe in Quebec/Ontario (Internet and IPTV) working with pfSense:

                  @autumnwalker That's the DVR itself

                  hmm - not sure where to point you on this one. I have seen that happen in my environment, but rare and cannot reproduce. It also happened before I ripped out the HH3K and happened with Bell's older equipment too (I'm OG FibreOP) so I chalked it up to their gear.

                  I'm not sure why pausing would have any effect on the stream coming from Bell (IGMP, firewall rules, routing) versus the "live" stream. Someone who has more knowledge of how the streaming works on the Bell end will have to chime in.

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                    idscomm @autumnwalker
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                    @autumnwalker So, first I rebooted the PVR then I did 2 more packet capture using the live TV and pausing it... I noticed that other than the 10.2/16 and 10.237/16, my box was also reaching for 10.195/16 UPD, TCP and IGMP as source ... I added that route under the upstream and under Static Routes ... Seems like it's working fine now ... I'll do more test and let it run but so far so good!

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                      CrazyMitchy
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                      @autumnwalker Well this is akward. It was an IGMP issue after all. I NEVER noticed you could choose the interface it was listening on in pfSense... I pointed it to my LAN and boom it works. I feel kinda dumb lol

                      It works great now, thanks a bunch for your help!

                      Only problem left is the apps, even with the DNS resolver rebinds, it just keeps loading and nothing comes up. Getting there!

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                        autumnwalker @idscomm
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                        @idscomm great find! I will have to do some testing on my system over the weekend and report back with findings. Perhaps there is a new route for Aliant now.

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                          idscomm @autumnwalker
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                          @autumnwalker
                          here are a few samples....
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                            autumnwalker @CrazyMitchy
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                            @CrazyMitchy glad you got it sorted out! Do you mean the apps on the Bell box or the apps on your devices (e.g. iOS)?

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                              CrazyMitchy @autumnwalker
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                              @autumnwalker The apps on the DVR itself. I've rerouted bell.ca, bell.com, and iptv.microsoft.com to 207.164.234.129
                              207.164.234.193, 10.2.127.228, 10.2.127.196, without success. I see my PC resolves iptv.bell.ca to these IP's, but the DVR doesn't connect, it says problem with name resolution.

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                                autumnwalker @CrazyMitchy
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                                @CrazyMitchy I'm not sure what the right configuration for non-Aliant users is. You may want to capture DNS traffic from the DVR for a bit and see what URLs it is trying to resolve. I would guess that those URLs need to be resolved by Bell's DNS servers, but again, I'm with Aliant which is completely different. While you are capturing try and launch the apps and do different things on the device (including power cycle it) to get it to generate traffic.

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                                  CrazyMitchy @autumnwalker
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                                  @autumnwalker That's the weird thing, I see the DVR hitting those IP's though... Maybe there's additional ones!

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                                    sylvain613
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                                    I finally got my pfsense working and getting amazing speeds of 1800/1020 i am in Ontario i have setup iptv it cuts out after 4 seconds after reading i know its the igmp handshake gateway issue ?

                                    packet sniffer my wan_iptvp

                                    13:07:56.989441 IP 10.121.112.173 > 10.121.96.1: ICMP echo request, id 50695, seq 5200, length 8
                                    13:07:57.519447 IP 10.121.112.173 > 10.121.96.1: ICMP echo request, id 50695, seq 5201, length 8
                                    13:07:58.033204 IP 10.121.112.173 > 10.121.96.1: ICMP echo request, id 50695, seq 5202, length 8
                                    13:07:58.211613 IP 10.121.112.173.65145 > 10.2.104.199.47806: UDP, length 134
                                    13:07:58.218217 IP 10.2.104.199.47806 > 10.121.112.173.65145: UDP, length 65
                                    13:07:58.565449 IP 10.121.112.173 > 10.121.96.1: ICMP echo request, id 50695, seq 5203, length 8
                                    13:07:59.097700 IP 10.121.112.173 > 10.121.96.1: ICMP echo request, id 50695, seq 5204, length 8
                                    13:07:59.215453 IP 10.121.112.173.65145 > 10.2.104.199.47806: UDP, length 134
                                    13:07:59.629951 IP 10.121.112.173 > 10.121.96.1: ICMP echo request, id 50695, seq 5205, length 8
                                    13:07:59.896504 IP 10.121.112.173.18050 > 10.2.122.28.43962: UDP, length 113
                                    13:07:59.903900 IP 10.2.122.28.43962 > 10.121.112.173.18050: UDP, length 50
                                    13:08:00.162202 IP 10.121.112.173 > 10.121.96.1: ICMP echo request, id 50695, seq 5206, length 8
                                    13:08:00.694453 IP 10.121.112.173 > 10.121.96.1: ICMP echo request, id 50695, seq 5207, length 8
                                    13:08:01.226706 IP 10.121.112.173 > 10.121.96.1: ICMP echo request, id 50695, seq 5208, length 8

                                    bell pvr is on a 192.168 ip am i missing something here?
                                    and where do i add the bell dns's for ontario???
                                    a little help please :D

                                    Thanks

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                                      idscomm @sylvain613
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                                      @sylvain613
                                      This one if for Nova Scotia but it might help you. You might have to tweak some of the IPs but most config should be the same.
                                      https://www.idscomm.ca/blog/bell-fibe-internet-iptv-with-pfsense

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                                        autumnwalker @sylvain613
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                                        @sylvain613 it sounds like you have an IGMP Proxy misconfiguration re: the tv cutout. In Atlantic, your entire network (including PVR) should be on 192.168.2.x. RE: Bell DNS you can enable "Allow DNS server list to be overridden by DHCP/PPP on WAN" under System > General to grab the Bell DNS servers.

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                                          sylvain613
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                                          Thanks for this i already had dhcp/ppp enabled ...tv works well apps work vod works only issue is tv plays 4 secounds freezes one secound and then it never freezes again unless i change channel then its the same plays 4 secounds then freezes a second and i can watch tv all day no freezing?
                                          all dns and ips are for bell aliant i need bell ontario ?

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                                            autumnwalker
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                                            Yes, you would need the Ontario IP addresses. Atlantic Canada (Aliant) is different than the rest of Canada.

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