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    [Solved] Ooma not working

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    • chpalmerC
      chpalmer @stephenw10
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      @stephenw10 said in Ooma not working:

      OpenVPN shouldn't care about the source port. If they have broken OpenVPN that's an achievement!

      Im trying to remember but I believe this would not be the first time someone did..

      Triggering snowflakes one by one..
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      • stephenw10S
        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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        Ha, well I could certainly believe that! But OpenVPN is what you choose when your device has to be able to plug into any router and connect out as Oooma does. If they broke the server end so it required a static port that would be some spectacular foot-shooting. 😉
        It would also limit them to just one device per public IP which seems like a bad decision.

        Steve

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        • chpalmerC
          chpalmer
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          @stephenw10 said in Ooma not working:

          It would also limit them to just one device per public IP which seems like a bad decision.

          Many VOIP providers skirt this by sequentially numbering the ports. My phone uses 5060, 5062 and 5064 for my three lines right here.

          My guess is that if someone wanted more than one OOma device at their house then support would do something similar with their VPNs. I wonder how many do though. Or how many lines that OOma device can do?? two or possibly three depending.

          There is a saying that a Ford engineer will step over 20 hookers to screw a mechanic.. Sometimes I believe the same about software and system engineers and IT personnel..

          Triggering snowflakes one by one..
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            x88dually
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            still working on all this and nothing.
            made a few rules but no clue if theyre right.

            think i'm giving up for the night

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              x88dually
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              on ooma, i can forward a port, but its 5060 to port 80 om device

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                x88dually
                last edited by x88dually

                ok, Ooma ip isn't showing in diag/states/Wan or in its own Lan. But, roku and fireTv's show up in both logs, So WTF ?? The device shows its got an internet connect, but no vpn or tunnel. And i changed it to static ip on device. But old or new ip, neither shows up in logs i already said and checked.

                Think i'm gonna call it a night now.

                Thx for the help so far.

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                • stephenw10S
                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                  Hmm, well if it's getting an IP but not opening any states then it's either just not trying to connect or being blocked.

                  Check Status > System Logs > Firewall for any blocked traffic from the Ooma IP.

                  Ultimately running a packet capture in Diag > Packet Capture on the interface it's connected to and filtered by it's IP.
                  That will show you what it's doing, if anything.

                  Steve

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                    x88dually
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                    Jan 14 11:28:38	LAN	10.15.15.02:45652	208.83.246.199:443	TCP:S
                    Jan 14 11:28:36	WAN	[fe80::1daf:bef0:18ce:e5be]:56059	[ff02::c]:1900	UDP
                    Jan 14 11:28:32	WAN	[fe80::1daf:bef0:18ce:e5be]:56059	[ff02::c]:1900	UDP
                    Jan 14 11:28:29	WAN	[fe80::1daf:bef0:18ce:e5be]:56059	[ff02::c]:1900	UDP
                    Jan 14 11:28:26	WAN	[fe80::1daf:bef0:18ce:e5be]:56059	[ff02::c]:1900	UDP
                    Jan 14 11:28:22	WAN	[fe80::1daf:bef0:18ce:e5be]:56059	[ff02::c]:1900	UDP
                    Jan 14 11:28:21	LAN	10.15.15.02:45652	208.83.246.199:443	TCP:S
                    Jan 14 11:28:19	WAN	[fe80::1daf:bef0:18ce:e5be]:56059	[ff02::c]:1900	UDP
                    Jan 14 11:28:16	WAN	[fe80::1daf:bef0:18ce:e5be]:56059	[ff02::c]:1900	UDP
                    Jan 14 11:28:14	LAN	10.15.15.02:45652	208.83.246.199:443	TCP:S
                    Jan 14 11:28:12	WAN	[fe80::1daf:bef0:18ce:e5be]:56059	[ff02::c]:1900	UDP
                    Jan 14 11:28:10	LAN	10.15.15.02:45652	208.83.246.199:443	TCP:S
                    Jan 14 11:28:09	WAN	[fe80::1daf:bef0:18ce:e5be]:56059	[ff02::c]:1900	UDP
                    Jan 14 11:28:08	LAN	10.15.15.2:45652	208.83.246.199:443	TCP:S
                    Jan 14 11:28:07	LAN	10.15.15.2:45652	208.83.246.199:443	TCP:S
                    Jan 14 11:28:06	WAN	[fe80::1daf:bef0:18ce:e5be]:56059	[ff02::c]:1900	UDP
                    

                    Thats from Sys log/firewall/dynamic

                    Do i make a specific rule just for this somewhere ?

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                      x88dually
                      last edited by

                      i think i'm goin back to the beginning. 1 lan, everything on the same subnet, i'm gettin confused.

                      Gimme a few hours please.

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                      • stephenw10S
                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                        Unclear if those are blocks but if they are and 10.15.15.2 is the Ooma device then it looks like it's connecting on LAN (should it be?) and is being blocked for outbound TCP.

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                          x88dually
                          last edited by x88dually

                          WTF ??!!

                          It works now

                          I had ooms goin out thru router(cisco rv325). Changed it to pfsense (lan, for now),, and now its connected and working.

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                            • stephenw10S
                              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                              Ooma needs those ports outbound not inbound. You shouldn't need any of those ports forwards.

                              Steve

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                                • stephenw10S
                                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                  OpenVPN is definitely not required inbound. The server never connects to the client. The client connects outbound to the server only.
                                  The service is expected to 'just work' behind any random router. They cannot possibly expect the average user to setup a whole bunch of port forwards. At most they might require UPnP so the device can set them up itself but I don't see any mention of that.

                                  Steve

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                                    • stephenw10S
                                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                      last edited by stephenw10

                                      Outbound NAT should be enabled by default for all traffic from an internal device like that. You should not need any additional outbound NAT rules. The only exception to that would be something that requires a static source port, which some VoIP devices do, but this is not using SIP so it's unlikely.

                                      It's not about traffic both ways, which is obviously required. In a stateful firewall it's about how the connection is opened. All connections from the LAN are allowed out so the Ooma is able to connect out to check for firmware updates. Reply traffic from the firmware server is allowed back because the firewall state is now open.
                                      The same is true for the OpenVPN connection. The client in the Ooma connects out to the server and replies from the server are now allowed back to it so the tunnel is established.

                                      https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/book/firewall/firewall-fundamentals.html#stateful-filtering

                                      Steve

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                                      • johnpozJ
                                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @stephenw10
                                        last edited by johnpoz

                                        @stephenw10 said in [Solved] Ooma not working:

                                        You shouldn't need any of those ports forwards.

                                        Exactly - says right on their site, these are "outbound" ports

                                        https://support.ooma.com/home/advanced-connections-and-service-ports/

                                        outbound.jpg

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