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    Buy or not a SG-8860?

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    • johnpozJ
      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
      last edited by johnpoz

      They are very helpful without a support contract for basic sorts of questions, how to recover from crashed system, that sort of thing, etc.. ... Just open a ticket, and ask has this been repaired by netgate.. Not sure why they would with hold such info? They sure prob wouldn't give you any details of what or when or by who, etc. But a yes no to has it been repair I would think they would be willing to answer.

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      • stephenw10S
        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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        That unit has never needed to come back to us as far as I can see.

        Steve

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        • marcelovvmM
          marcelovvm
          last edited by

          I know the equipment is used but is working. But, It is complicated to know if he has already been repaired. In fact my first concern is if the equipment meets my needs, because if it doesn't, I don't see any other option than to "mount a PFSense Box" (buy a board, CPU, memory, etc.). Because the value of importing an XG-7100 far exceeds my budget!

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          • marcelovvmM
            marcelovvm @stephenw10
            last edited by

            @stephenw10 Tks! Steve. This is a good intel!

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            • NollipfSenseN
              NollipfSense @marcelovvm
              last edited by

              @marcelovvm It seems that you'll be the new owner of an SG-8860...congrats! After purchase if your leftover budget can allow a support contract, I would take it.

              pfSense+ 23.09 Lenovo Thinkcentre M93P SFF Quadcore i7 dual Raid-ZFS 128GB-SSD 32GB-RAM PCI-Intel i350-t4 NIC, -Intel QAT 8950.
              pfSense+ 23.09 VM-Proxmox, Dell Precision Xeon-W2155 Nvme 500GB-ZFS 128GB-RAM PCIe-Intel i350-t4, Intel QAT-8950, P-cloud.

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              • marcelovvmM
                marcelovvm @NollipfSense
                last edited by

                @NollipfSense I haven't bought it yet, because I'm in doubt if the hardware will be able to support my needs. But for sure if you have a budget left, Netgate support will always be of great value! tks!

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                • johnpozJ
                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                  last edited by johnpoz

                  8860 could for sure handle the amount of traffic you have described.. 150mbps of traffic - don't even think it would break a sweat ;)

                  What exactly are you planning on doing with IPS/IDS? To be honest with the amount of https actual useful anything with it is becoming more difficult... I would think you might have use for it with traffic to your servers behind, but you would really need to do the offloading of the SSL, and then traffic through IPS... Kind of hard for IPS to find signatures of bad traffic if all it can see is the outer encrypted shell of https.

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                  • marcelovvmM
                    marcelovvm @johnpoz
                    last edited by

                    @johnpoz I agree ... in the past we tried to implement IPS, in a simple way
                    , and found that 70% of our traffic was https and therefore could not be analyzed (and even blocked). So we started with an endpoint solution (Sophos) that can analyze / block https traffic. And this is how we control outgoing traffic.

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                    • johnpozJ
                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                      Ok then you don't even have the extra overhead of running ips on your firewall.. So for your amount of traffic and other minor requirements.. A 3100 would be more than enough, a 5100 would be a rocketship.

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                      • marcelovvmM
                        marcelovvm @johnpoz
                        last edited by

                        @johnpoz Hi John... but the target device I'm looking to buy is the SG-8860-1U... not the SG-3100... even this one, the 3100, is very expensive in Brazil ... twice the SG-8860-1U.

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                        • NollipfSenseN
                          NollipfSense @marcelovvm
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                          @marcelovvm I think he was telling that as comparison in handling...don't delay...grab that SG-8860 now!

                          pfSense+ 23.09 Lenovo Thinkcentre M93P SFF Quadcore i7 dual Raid-ZFS 128GB-SSD 32GB-RAM PCI-Intel i350-t4 NIC, -Intel QAT 8950.
                          pfSense+ 23.09 VM-Proxmox, Dell Precision Xeon-W2155 Nvme 500GB-ZFS 128GB-RAM PCIe-Intel i350-t4, Intel QAT-8950, P-cloud.

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                          • johnpozJ
                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                            last edited by johnpoz

                            ^ exactly! ;) if you found a 8860 at a price point you are happy with - snag it! ;)

                            its prob overkill to be honest, but if your happy with the price..

                            I have a 4860 on my home network - it is for sure way more than what is required.. But go big or go home works for me ;)

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