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    secured.netflix.com blocked - WHY?

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    • K
      krbvroc1
      last edited by

      Trying to update expired credit card on netflix and it keeps complaining!

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      After wasting quite a bit of time (multiple browsers and debugging), I finally check pfblockerng alerts and see secured.netflix.com is blocked and it makes no sense.

      First off as for which 'list' is blocking it, it shows 'no match' - so why the heck is it being blocked? Second, I added it to the whitelist and it still is being blocked. It now shows a the '-' icon indicating it is whitelisted, yet it is still blocked.

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      • provelsP
        provels @krbvroc1
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        @krbvroc1 https://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/secured.netflix.com

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          krbvroc1 @provels
          last edited by krbvroc1

          @provels said in secured.netflix.com blocked - WHY?:

          @krbvroc1 https://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/secured.netflix.com

          I am not sure checking secured.netflix.com using that sort of site is accurate. There is no indication that netflix allows generic HTTP GET requests to that domain. It may only accept HTTPS POST and may be further filtered against a referrer tag so it only returns something if the POST comes from a netflix page.

          My original question stands. Why every time I try to click the submit button, does it trigger a hit under the Alerts tag and why does it show 'no match' so I have zero insight into what the source might even be.

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          • ?
            A Former User
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            It could be that you have TLD turned on. If so, turn it off and see if your difficulty goes away.

            OR just override the block by whitelisting secured.netflix.com.

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              krbvroc1 @A Former User
              last edited by

              @jwj said in secured.netflix.com blocked - WHY?:

              It could be that you have TLD turned on. If so, turn it off and see if your difficulty goes away.

              OR just override the block by whitelisting secured.netflix.com.

              As I wrote in my initial post above:

              'Second, I added it to the whitelist and it still is being blocked. It now shows a the '-' icon indicating it is whitelisted, yet it is still blocked.'

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              • ?
                A Former User
                last edited by A Former User

                Sorry, I missed that. Do you have TLD on?

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                • NogBadTheBadN
                  NogBadTheBad
                  last edited by

                  Looks like something that pfBlocker would block, not sure why you don't see the feed.

                  Have you tried looking into your feed sources ?

                  andy@mac-pro ~ % host -a secured.netflix.com
                  Trying "secured.netflix.com"
                  ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 43941
                  ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 2, AUTHORITY: 4, ADDITIONAL: 0

                  ;; QUESTION SECTION:
                  ;secured.netflix.com. IN ANY

                  ;; ANSWER SECTION:
                  secured.netflix.com. 300 IN CNAME h-netflix.online-metrix.net.
                  h-netflix.online-metrix.net. 30 IN A 91.235.133.103

                  ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
                  online-metrix.net. 300 IN NS pdns249.ultradns.biz.
                  online-metrix.net. 300 IN NS pdns249.ultradns.net.
                  online-metrix.net. 300 IN NS pdns249.ultradns.com.
                  online-metrix.net. 300 IN NS pdns249.ultradns.org.

                  andy@mac-pro ~ %

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                  • johnpozJ
                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                    last edited by

                    You understand that is a cname right?

                    ;; ANSWER SECTION:
                    secured.netflix.com. 3479 IN CNAME h-netflix.online-metrix.net.
                    h-netflix.online-metrix.net. 3479 IN A 192.225.158.168

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                    • NogBadTheBadN
                      NogBadTheBad
                      last edited by NogBadTheBad

                      @NogBadTheBad said in secured.netflix.com blocked - WHY?:

                      .online-metrix.net.

                      Yup its blocked by pfBlocker, was talking more about the function of the tld rather than secured.netflix.com

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                      • NogBadTheBadN
                        NogBadTheBad
                        last edited by NogBadTheBad

                        @KRBVROC1 what version of pbflocker are you using ?

                        Not sure why yours shows unknown unknown.

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                          krbvroc1
                          last edited by

                          Well that provides more insight. From a UI point of view, very confusing. I only see secured.netflix.com in the Alert log, nothing about online-metrix.net. The secured.netflix.com might be a red herring anyway since firefox shows when I click the button, the POST is to netflix.com, not secured.netflix.com

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                          Maybe there is some other issue going on, but what is the proper way to completely disable the pfblockerng for testing something like this? I initially tried unchecking the 'Enable DNSBL' and forcing a cron update but it still didn't work. I then tried 'Reset the firewall state table' and it still didn't work. Maybe there truly is something else going on here with Netflix but not sure I have done everything to rule out pfblockerng and that I effectively disabled it.

                          @NogBadTheBad - I am using 2.1.4_20

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                          • NogBadTheBadN
                            NogBadTheBad
                            last edited by

                            I'd install pfBlockerNG-devel 2.2.5_28

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                            • GertjanG
                              Gertjan
                              last edited by

                              h-netflix.online-metrix.net

                              Well .. lol.
                              If you - @krbvroc1 - choose a feed called "ADs - Collection of ADvertisement Domain Feeds." I can image that 'netflix' is part of it.
                              Choosing the right feeds that fits your needs IS important.

                              Any way : the solution is one click away :

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                              The advise that follows :

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                              should be act upon.
                              If not ... well ..... things will work out ..... later on.

                              No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                              Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                                krbvroc1 @Gertjan
                                last edited by

                                @Gertjan You may have missed my previous reply or didn't read my initial post. Perhaps the confusion is that I am using pfblockerng, not the development version.

                                In my original post I included the SINGLE entry that showed up in the Alets tab. Do you see any of those controls that you are claiming is only one click away? Do you see online-metrix.net? Notice the little '-' sign - if I hover over that it said 'Already on the whitelist'. Yet it still continues to show up in the Alerts tab despite being whitelisted with zero indication of which list is blocking.

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                                • GertjanG
                                  Gertjan
                                  last edited by Gertjan

                                  Humm.

                                  Keep in mind, most, if not all people replying here use the "-devel" version, as stable and much better as the original "pfBlockerNG". You'll be seeing the name of the feed that blocks.

                                  I did the test - installing, as @NogBadTheBad suggested, the D_Me_ADs feed - and the 'netflix' was shown refused.
                                  A white listing did do the job (after flushing the DNS cache of my PC).
                                  Keep in mind that the IP - or range of IP's could exists on other lists.

                                  To be sure : when you stop pfBlockerNG, the issue is gone ?

                                  I do advise you to step up to the last -devel version. It's really worth it.

                                  No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                                  Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                                  • NogBadTheBadN
                                    NogBadTheBad
                                    last edited by

                                    Not even sure why the older pfBlockerNG still exists, I thought I saw @BBcan177 say the older pfBlockerNG was going to be dropped and pfBlockerNG-devel was going to be renamed pfBlockerNG.

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                                      krbvroc1 @Gertjan
                                      last edited by

                                      @Gertjan @NogBadTheBad Typically I would never run something labelled as a development version on a 'production' environment, but it seems many people have moved to devel and feel it is stable. Yes, every few months I pop in here looking for @BBcan177 announce the development version was promoted to an official 2.3 version--it hasn't happened yet and I always assumed there was some reason behind that. Typically if a software developer is unwilling to move something out of development there is a reason for that.

                                      As far as my original problem...I tried using my cell phone (data network) so my router is not in the loop and it still failed. So that rules out pfblockerng. So it must be some sort of Netflix issue.

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                                        jdeloach @krbvroc1
                                        last edited by

                                        @krbvroc1

                                        I seem to remember @BBcan177 stating in some of the older messages that the change wouldn't take place till pfSense 2.5 is released?

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                                          krbvroc1
                                          last edited by

                                          While I am not certain, I think this Netflix issue was because I use Virtual Credit Card numbers for all online purchases. I think Netflix may be blocking those cards now (I have used them for years). If that is so, again poor UI design...
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                                          It should indicate they don't accept that type of card (Not sure how they even know to be honest). After some web searching it looks like people were abusing virtual cards to get free trials or something. Another case of dishonest people ruining things for everyone else.

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                                          • johnpozJ
                                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                                            @krbvroc1 said in secured.netflix.com blocked - WHY?:

                                            Another case of dishonest people ruining things for everyone else.

                                            Yup!! This is across the board on everything, not just free trials ;) The world is full of assholes, they keep the rest of us from having nice things ;)

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