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    • johnpozJ
      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
      last edited by johnpoz

      that looks correct yes..

      But its not working if your seeing mac of devices in 192.168.1..

      Clear your arp table... Do they come back? trying pinging one of those 192.168.1 address from your client after you clear your arp.

      BTW your rules on vlan 5 are WRONG!!! source would NEVER be pfsense on vlan 5 address.. Source would be vlan 5 net..

      What did you set netgears IP too? You said you changed it.

      What is the hardware of your pfsense box?
      6DB311

      That doesn't resolve as maker of networking gear..

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        r79c @johnpoz
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        @johnpoz said in Netgear/Vlans/Pfsense:

        Clear your arp table

        cleared and not returned

        cannot ping any 192.168.1 or 192.168.5

        i have the following arp entries now

        192.168.5.1
        192.168.5.255
        224.0.0.22
        224.0.0.251
        224.0.0.252
        239.255.255.250
        255.255.255.255

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        • johnpozJ
          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
          last edited by johnpoz

          Ok that is better!

          So simple test is sniff on pfsense vlan interface while you ping it from the client.. Do you see the ping?

          BTW what hardware is the nic on pfsense? that mac doesn't resolve to anyone..

          ping.jpg

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            r79c @johnpoz
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            @johnpoz said in Netgear/Vlans/Pfsense:

            Do you see the ping?

            16:37:10.374829 IP 192.168.5.50 > 192.168.5.1: ICMP echo request, id 1, seq 36, length 40
16:37:15.321366 IP 192.168.5.50 > 192.168.5.1: ICMP echo request, id 1, seq 37, length 40
16:37:20.337599 IP 192.168.5.50 > 192.168.5.1: ICMP echo request, id 1, seq 38, length 40
16:37:25.318515 IP 192.168.5.50 > 192.168.5.1: ICMP echo request, id 1, seq 39, length 40
16:37:26.442815 IP 192.168.5.50.53865 > 239.255.255.250.1900: UDP, length 174
16:37:27.009842 IP 192.168.5.50.60396 > 192.168.5.1.53: UDP, length 46
16:37:27.463007 IP 192.168.5.50.53865 > 239.255.255.250.1900: UDP, length 174
16:37:28.011221 IP 192.168.5.50.60396 > 192.168.5.1.53: UDP, length 46
16:37:28.465757 IP 192.168.5.50.53865 > 239.255.255.250.1900: UDP, length 174
16:37:29.013961 IP 192.168.5.50.60396 > 192.168.5.1.53: UDP, length 46
16:37:29.468473 IP 192.168.5.50.53865 > 239.255.255.250.1900: UDP, length 174
16:37:31.022413 IP 192.168.5.50.60396 > 192.168.5.1.53: UDP, length 46
16:37:32.811702 ARP, Request who-has 192.168.5.1 (6c:b3:11:1c:6c:77) tell 192.168.5.50, length 46
16:37:32.811707 ARP, Reply 192.168.5.1 is-at 6c:b3:11:1c:6c:77, length 28
16:37:35.033636 IP 192.168.5.50.60396 > 192.168.5.1.53: UDP, length 46
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            • johnpozJ
              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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              @r79c said in Netgear/Vlans/Pfsense:

              16:37:10.374829 IP 192.168.5.50 > 192.168.5.1: ICMP echo request, id 1, seq 36, length 40
              16:37:15.321366 IP 192.168.5.50 > 192.168.5.1: ICMP echo request, id 1, seq 37, length 40

              Yup... So lets see your rules on on vlan 5 again... And do you have any rules in floating?

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                r79c @johnpoz
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                https://ibb.co/rs4tG8r

                https://ibb.co/zVDwqW4

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                • johnpozJ
                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                  last edited by johnpoz

                  So your blocking it with pfblocker... Disable those rules on floating as test!

                  That firehol list contains rfc1918 address space!!

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                    r79c @johnpoz
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                    Ok I disabled those rules and disabled pfblocker for the time being.

                    I set those rules up when I set up pfblocker but I was never 100% competent on how it is setup, I only set it up about two weeks ago....

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                    • johnpozJ
                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                      And - are you pinging?

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                        r79c @johnpoz
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                        @johnpoz said in Netgear/Vlans/Pfsense:

                        And - are you pinging?

                        no

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                        • johnpozJ
                          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                          last edited by johnpoz

                          Well your firewall rule that allows all of IPv4 show hits... And your seeing the traffic actually hit pfsense vlan interface... You were sniffing on the vlan interface right!! not lan..

                          So lets see your routing table..

                          Unless you where not sniffing on vlan 5 interface it makes no sense to be honest..

                          Is pfsense a VM? Or this is a physical box... What is the nic of this box? Why does the mac of the 5.1 not show as known company?

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                            r79c @johnpoz
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                            @johnpoz said in Netgear/Vlans/Pfsense:

                            You were sniffing on the vlan interface right!!

                            yes

                            routing table

                            Destination	Gateway	Flags	Use	Mtu	Netif	Expire
0.0.0.0/1	10.8.2.1	UGS	2057	1500	ovpnc3	
default	192.168.10.1	UGS	112	1500	igb0	
10.8.2.0/24	10.8.2.1	UGS	0	1500	ovpnc3	
10.8.2.1	link#10	UH	7060	1500	ovpnc3	
10.8.2.19	link#10	UHS	0	16384	lo0	
10.8.3.1	link#8	UH	7074	1500	ovpnc1	
10.8.3.10	link#8	UHS	0	16384	lo0	
10.8.8.0/24	10.8.8.1	UGS	0	1500	ovpnc2	
10.8.8.1	link#9	UH	7078	1500	ovpnc2	
10.8.8.4	link#9	UHS	0	16384	lo0	
127.0.0.1	link#4	UH	1350047	16384	lo0	
128.0.0.0/1	10.8.2.1	UGS	57242	1500	ovpnc3	
192.168.1.0/24	link#2	U	815693	1500	igb1	
192.168.1.1	link#2	UHS	0	16384	lo0	
192.168.5.0/24	link#7	U	1927	1500	igb1.5	
192.168.5.1	link#7	UHS	0	16384	lo0	
192.168.10.0/24	link#1	U	0	1500	igb0	
192.168.10.1	6c:b3:11:1c:6c:76	UHS	53316	1500	igb0	
192.168.10.3	link#1	UHS	0	16384	lo0	
217.146.82.191/32	192.168.10.1	UGS	24899	1500	igb0
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                            • johnpozJ
                              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                              last edited by johnpoz

                              Well that looks correct.. you have 192.168.5 and using the interface..

                              And it was seeing traffic - your not running any sort of IPS are you?

                              Can you post output of

                              cat /tmp/rules.debug

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                                r79c @johnpoz
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                                @johnpoz said in Netgear/Vlans/Pfsense:

                                • your not running any sort of IPS are you?

                                snort

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                                • johnpozJ
                                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                                  Dude!!!! you need to give this info.... Disable it!!! What do its logs say..

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                                    r79c @johnpoz
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                                    @johnpoz said in Netgear/Vlans/Pfsense:

                                    So maybe its just an issue with this nic and vlans

                                    perhaps the card that I bought off Amazon does not support VLAN's, although I presumed it did. Also I saw that pfsense only shows interfaces that VLAN's can be created on so if the card didn't support VLAN's it should not show in the pfsense drop down.

                                    igb0: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> metric 0 mtu 1500
	options=6400bb<RXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,JUMBO_MTU,VLAN_HWCSUM,VLAN_HWTSO,RXCSUM_IPV6,TXCSUM_IPV6>
	ether 6c:b3:11:1c:6c:76
	hwaddr 6c:b3:11:1c:6c:76
	inet6 fe80::6eb3:11ff:fe1c:6c76%igb0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1
	inet6 fdc0:13c1:78f1:0:6eb3:11ff:fe1c:6c76 prefixlen 64 autoconf
	inet 192.168.10.3 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.10.255
	nd6 options=23<PERFORMNUD,ACCEPT_RTADV,AUTO_LINKLOCAL>
	media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT <full-duplex>)
	status: active
igb1: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> metric 0 mtu 1500
	options=6500bb<RXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,JUMBO_MTU,VLAN_HWCSUM,VLAN_HWFILTER,VLAN_HWTSO,RXCSUM_IPV6,TXCSUM_IPV6>
	ether 6c:b3:11:1c:6c:77
	hwaddr 6c:b3:11:1c:6c:77
	inet 192.168.1.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255
	inet6 fe80::1:1%igb1 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2
	nd6 options=21<PERFORMNUD,AUTO_LINKLOCAL>
	media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT <full-duplex>)
	status: active
enc0: flags=0<> metric 0 mtu 1536
	nd6 options=21<PERFORMNUD,AUTO_LINKLOCAL>
	groups: enc
lo0: flags=8049<UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST> metric 0 mtu 16384
	options=600003<RXCSUM,TXCSUM,RXCSUM_IPV6,TXCSUM_IPV6>
	inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128
	inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x4
	inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000
	nd6 options=21<PERFORMNUD,AUTO_LINKLOCAL>
	groups: lo
pflog0: flags=100<PROMISC> metric 0 mtu 33160
	groups: pflog
pfsync0: flags=0<> metric 0 mtu 1500
	groups: pfsync
	syncpeer: 224.0.0.240 maxupd: 128 defer: on
	syncok: 1
igb1.5: flags=88843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST,STATICARP> metric 0 mtu 1500
	options=600003<RXCSUM,TXCSUM,RXCSUM_IPV6,TXCSUM_IPV6>
	ether 6c:b3:11:1c:6c:77
	inet6 fe80::6eb3:11ff:fe1c:6c77%igb1.5 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x7
	inet 192.168.5.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.5.255
	nd6 options=23<PERFORMNUD,ACCEPT_RTADV,AUTO_LINKLOCAL>
	media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT <full-duplex>)
	status: active
	vlan: 5 vlanpcp: 0 parent interface: igb1
	groups: vlan
ovpnc1: flags=8051<UP,POINTOPOINT,RUNNING,MULTICAST> metric 0 mtu 1500
	options=80000<LINKSTATE>
	inet6 fe80::6eb3:11ff:fe1c:6c76%ovpnc1 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x8
	inet 10.8.3.10 --> 10.8.3.1 netmask 0xffffff00
	nd6 options=21<PERFORMNUD,AUTO_LINKLOCAL>
	groups: tun openvpn
	Opened by PID 7054
ovpnc2: flags=8051<UP,POINTOPOINT,RUNNING,MULTICAST> metric 0 mtu 1500
	options=80000<LINKSTATE>
	inet6 fe80::6eb3:11ff:fe1c:6c76%ovpnc2 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x9
	inet 10.8.8.4 --> 10.8.8.1 netmask 0xffffff00
	nd6 options=21<PERFORMNUD,AUTO_LINKLOCAL>
	groups: tun openvpn
	Opened by PID 82209
ovpnc3: flags=8051<UP,POINTOPOINT,RUNNING,MULTICAST> metric 0 mtu 1500
	options=80000<LINKSTATE>
	inet6 fe80::6eb3:11ff:fe1c:6c76%ovpnc3 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0xa
	inet 10.8.2.19 --> 10.8.2.1 netmask 0xffffff00
	nd6 options=21<PERFORMNUD,AUTO_LINKLOCAL>
	groups: tun openvpn
	Opened by PID 33738
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                                    • dotdashD
                                      dotdash
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                                      You've made a lot of changes, I suggest you reboot the firewall to make sure the pfb/snort is off.

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                                      • johnpozJ
                                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                        last edited by johnpoz

                                        Well I am out of ideas to be honest... You say your sniffing on your vlan, and seeing the ping request.. Your rule you posted shows your allowing it... And your showing hits..

                                        So makes no sense..

                                        But your running IPS, and you had pfblocker with rules that would block rfc1918 space, etc..

                                        Your nic is some no name???, never heard off - and its mac address does not even lookup... So maybe its just an issue with this nic and vlans... Lets see a ifconfig output from pfsense. I want to see what is showing for options on your igb1...

                                        example - here is an interface I am running vlans on.

                                        igb2: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> metric 0 mtu 1500
        options=6500bb<RXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,JUMBO_MTU,VLAN_HWCSUM,VLAN_HWFILTER,VLAN_HWTSO,RXCSUM_IPV6,TXCSUM_IPV6>
        ether 00:08:a2:0c:e6:20
        hwaddr 00:08:a2:0c:e6:20
        inet6 fe80::208:a2ff:fe0c:e620%igb2 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3 
        inet 192.168.2.253 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.2.255 
        nd6 options=21<PERFORMNUD,AUTO_LINKLOCAL>
        media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT <full-duplex>)
        status: active

igb2.4: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> metric 0 mtu 1500
        options=600003<RXCSUM,TXCSUM,RXCSUM_IPV6,TXCSUM_IPV6>
        ether 00:08:a2:0c:e6:20
        inet6 fe80::208:a2ff:fe0c:e620%igb2.4 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0xb 
        inet 192.168.4.253 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.4.255 
        nd6 options=21<PERFORMNUD,AUTO_LINKLOCAL>
        media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT <full-duplex>)
        status: active
        vlan: 4 vlanpcp: 0 parent interface: igb2
        groups: vlan 
igb2.6: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> metric 0 mtu 1500
        options=600003<RXCSUM,TXCSUM,RXCSUM_IPV6,TXCSUM_IPV6>
        ether 00:08:a2:0c:e6:20
        inet6 fe80::208:a2ff:fe0c:e620%igb2.6 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0xc 
        inet 192.168.6.253 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.6.255 
        nd6 options=21<PERFORMNUD,AUTO_LINKLOCAL>
        media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT <full-duplex>)
        status: active
        vlan: 6 vlanpcp: 0 parent interface: igb2
        groups: vlan

                                        Only other thing would be to run tcpdump on pfsense with -e flag so you can see the tagging is happening or not happening... Maybe its answering without the tag???? So your sniff on vlan wouldn't show it - that is guess..

                                        But sure a reload of your rules, or reboot couldn't hurt.

                                        From pfsense - sniff on your vlan 5, and try to ping your client 192.168.5.50..

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                                          r79c @johnpoz
                                          last edited by r79c

                                          @johnpoz said in Netgear/Vlans/Pfsense:

                                          So maybe its just an issue with this nic and vlans

                                          Perhaps it is, I presumed the card that I purchased off amazon supported vlan's and the pfsense drop down showed the card as an interface that could create vlans on...

                                          amazon nic

                                          igb0: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> metric 0 mtu 1500
	options=6400bb<RXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,JUMBO_MTU,VLAN_HWCSUM,VLAN_HWTSO,RXCSUM_IPV6,TXCSUM_IPV6>
	ether 6c:b3:11:1c:6c:76
	hwaddr 6c:b3:11:1c:6c:76
	inet6 fe80::6eb3:11ff:fe1c:6c76%igb0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1
	inet6 fdc0:13c1:78f1:0:6eb3:11ff:fe1c:6c76 prefixlen 64 autoconf
	inet 192.168.10.3 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.10.255
	nd6 options=23<PERFORMNUD,ACCEPT_RTADV,AUTO_LINKLOCAL>
	media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT <full-duplex>)
	status: active
igb1: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> metric 0 mtu 1500
	options=6500bb<RXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,JUMBO_MTU,VLAN_HWCSUM,VLAN_HWFILTER,VLAN_HWTSO,RXCSUM_IPV6,TXCSUM_IPV6>
	ether 6c:b3:11:1c:6c:77
	hwaddr 6c:b3:11:1c:6c:77
	inet 192.168.1.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255
	inet6 fe80::1:1%igb1 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2
	nd6 options=21<PERFORMNUD,AUTO_LINKLOCAL>
	media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT <full-duplex>)
	status: active
enc0: flags=0<> metric 0 mtu 1536
	nd6 options=21<PERFORMNUD,AUTO_LINKLOCAL>
	groups: enc
lo0: flags=8049<UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST> metric 0 mtu 16384
	options=600003<RXCSUM,TXCSUM,RXCSUM_IPV6,TXCSUM_IPV6>
	inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128
	inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x4
	inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000
	nd6 options=21<PERFORMNUD,AUTO_LINKLOCAL>
	groups: lo
pflog0: flags=100<PROMISC> metric 0 mtu 33160
	groups: pflog
pfsync0: flags=0<> metric 0 mtu 1500
	groups: pfsync
	syncpeer: 224.0.0.240 maxupd: 128 defer: on
	syncok: 1
igb1.5: flags=88843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST,STATICARP> metric 0 mtu 1500
	options=600003<RXCSUM,TXCSUM,RXCSUM_IPV6,TXCSUM_IPV6>
	ether 6c:b3:11:1c:6c:77
	inet6 fe80::6eb3:11ff:fe1c:6c77%igb1.5 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x7
	inet 192.168.5.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.5.255
	nd6 options=23<PERFORMNUD,ACCEPT_RTADV,AUTO_LINKLOCAL>
	media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT <full-duplex>)
	status: active
	vlan: 5 vlanpcp: 0 parent interface: igb1
	groups: vlan
ovpnc1: flags=8051<UP,POINTOPOINT,RUNNING,MULTICAST> metric 0 mtu 1500
	options=80000<LINKSTATE>
	inet6 fe80::6eb3:11ff:fe1c:6c76%ovpnc1 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x8
	inet 10.8.3.10 --> 10.8.3.1 netmask 0xffffff00
	nd6 options=21<PERFORMNUD,AUTO_LINKLOCAL>
	groups: tun openvpn
	Opened by PID 7054
ovpnc2: flags=8051<UP,POINTOPOINT,RUNNING,MULTICAST> metric 0 mtu 1500
	options=80000<LINKSTATE>
	inet6 fe80::6eb3:11ff:fe1c:6c76%ovpnc2 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x9
	inet 10.8.8.4 --> 10.8.8.1 netmask 0xffffff00
	nd6 options=21<PERFORMNUD,AUTO_LINKLOCAL>
	groups: tun openvpn
	Opened by PID 82209
ovpnc3: flags=8051<UP,POINTOPOINT,RUNNING,MULTICAST> metric 0 mtu 1500
	options=80000<LINKSTATE>
	inet6 fe80::6eb3:11ff:fe1c:6c76%ovpnc3 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0xa
	inet 10.8.2.19 --> 10.8.2.1 netmask 0xffffff00
	nd6 options=21<PERFORMNUD,AUTO_LINKLOCAL>
	groups: tun openvpn
	Opened by PID 33738

                                          just to recap the NAT automatic rules have added 192.168.1.0/24 and 192.168.5.0/24

                                          can I just be sure that I'm not missing a specific mapping that needs to be added???? like you have said before would the automatic rule be enough???

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                                          • johnpozJ
                                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                            last edited by johnpoz

                                            Your nat rules have zero to do with pinging 192.168.5.1..

                                            Who makes this card exactly??? 6c:b3:11 does not show up as vendor .. ipolex?

                                            It really makes no sense at this point... Have you rebooted? And you disabled snort and pfblocker... What is looks like from your sniff is firewall not allowing the traffic..

                                            edit: Why do you have this on your vlan interface??

                                            STATICARP

                                            Do you have this enabled???

                                            enabled.jpg

                                            OMG dude - did you just click every possible thing there is to click without clue one to what any of it does??? Why would you click that???

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