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    • johnpozJ
      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
      last edited by johnpoz

      Well is the mac address for 5.1 pfsense mac address. Where were you seeing 5.0? for your interface?

      You have something really F'd up

      192.168.1.125
      192.168.1.201
      192.168.1.202
      

      You shouldn't be seeing 192.168.1 address if your in vlan 5!!!

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        r79c @johnpoz
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        @johnpoz yes the mac address for 5.1 is the mac address of the lan interface

        5.0 must have been a typo

        two of those 192.168.1 address are static IP mappings for devices
        192.168.1.125 is the IP address of an access point

        all these IP addresses go through port 3 on the netgear switch which is connected to a wireless access point mesh

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        • johnpozJ
          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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          @r79c said in Netgear/Vlans/Pfsense:

          two of those 192.168.1 address are static IP mappings for devices

          Doesn't matter! So you created those on the device directly with arp? For why? It is pointless, and does nothing - sure and the F not going to work..

          I take it basic understanding of how vlans actually work, and what they do is where we need to start..

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            r79c @johnpoz
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            @johnpoz So you created those on the device directly with arp? For why?

            I statically mapped those IP addresses using Pfsense with arp yes, why, because those two devices are TV's which I did not want to put the traffic over VPN connection.

            @johnpoz I take it basic understanding of how vlans actually work, and what they do is where we need to start..

            sure, your the only one responding to this, and I'm grateful because I can't seem to get this working at all!!! I'm starting to wonder why I'm bothering really, as I only wanted to setup up one VLAN with one PC on my home network LoL

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            • johnpozJ
              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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              @r79c said in Netgear/Vlans/Pfsense:

              I statically mapped those IP addresses using Pfsense with arp yes,

              Dude ON THE CLIENT!!! we need to see the arp table on the CLIENT that is in vlan 5 and connected to port 1 of your switch... Not the arp table of pfsense!!!!

              Here

              $ arp -a                                                      
                                                                            
              Interface: 192.168.9.100 --- 0xc                              
                Internet Address      Physical Address      Type            
                192.168.9.10          00-11-32-7b-29-7d     dynamic         
                192.168.9.11          00-11-32-7b-29-7e     dynamic         
                192.168.9.99          70-6e-6d-f3-11-93     dynamic         
                192.168.9.208         02-11-32-2d-aa-61     dynamic         
                192.168.9.253         00-08-a2-0c-e6-24     dynamic         
                192.168.9.255         ff-ff-ff-ff-ff-ff     static          
                224.0.0.22            01-00-5e-00-00-16     static          
                239.192.0.0           01-00-5e-40-00-00     static          
                239.255.255.250       01-00-5e-7f-ff-fa     static          
                255.255.255.255       ff-ff-ff-ff-ff-ff     static          
                                                                            
              Interface: 192.168.9.101 --- 0x14                             
                Internet Address      Physical Address      Type            
                192.168.9.10          00-11-32-7b-29-7d     dynamic         
                192.168.9.11          00-11-32-7b-29-7e     dynamic         
                192.168.9.253         00-08-a2-0c-e6-24     dynamic         
                192.168.9.255         ff-ff-ff-ff-ff-ff     static          
                224.0.0.22            01-00-5e-00-00-16     static          
                239.192.0.0           01-00-5e-40-00-00     static          
                239.255.255.250       01-00-5e-7f-ff-fa     static          
                255.255.255.255       ff-ff-ff-ff-ff-ff     static          
              

              This is my windows box arp table... Post yours up from the BOX connected to port 1 of your switch! if on that box your seeing 192.168.1 IPs then your setup is BORKED!!!

              And post your ipconfig /all

              $ ipconfig /all                                                                     
                                                                                                  
              Windows IP Configuration                                                            
                                                                                                  
                 Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : i5-win                                       
                 Primary Dns Suffix  . . . . . . . : local.lan                                    
                 Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast                                    
                 IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No                                           
                 WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No                                           
                 DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : local.lan                                    
                                                                                                  
              Ethernet adapter Local:                                                             
                                                                                                  
                 Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :                                              
                 Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek PCIe GbE Family Controller           
                 Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-13-3B-2F-67-62                            
                 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No                                           
                 Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes                                          
                 IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.9.100(Preferred)                     
                 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0                                
                 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.9.253                                
                 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.3.10                                 
                 NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled                                      
                                                                                                  
              

              At a loss to where your posting that arp info from - because that sure and the F does not look like how pfsense would present it..... And no matter what you did with static arps on pfsense they would not show in your clients arp table.. You do not have your vlans setup how you think you do if your seeing arp entries from 192.168.1 on your box that is suppose to be in vlan 5

              This is switch setup
              pfsense - 1U,5T --- switch --- 5U --- vlan 5 client

              If that is how you have it setup, you should NEVER see arp entries for anything other than what is in vlan 5

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                r79c
                last edited by r79c

                ok here it is, from the client...

                C:\WINDOWS\system32>arp -a
                
                Interface: 192.68.5.50 --- 0x7
                   Internet Address                       Physical Address                  Type
                   192.168.1.125                          b0-be-76-b7-cf-8c                  dynamic
                   192.168.1.201                          78-bd-bc-34-d0-f3                  dynamic
                   192.168.1.202                          08-84-9d-87-b5-d3                 dynamic
                   192.168.5.1                              6d-b3-11-1c-6c-77                  dynamic
                   192.168.5.255                          ff-ff-ff-ff-ff-ff                                static
                   224.0.0.22                                 01-00-5e-00-00-16                 static
                   224.0.0.251                               01-00-5e-00-00-fb                  static
                   224.0.0.252                               01-00-5e-00-00-fc                  static
                   239.255.255.250                      01-00-5e-7f-ff-fa                      static
                   255.255.255.255                      ff-ff-ff-ff-ff-ff                                static
                

                BORKED! LOL

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                • johnpozJ
                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                  last edited by johnpoz

                  Yup that is BORKED

                  You should not be seeing 192.168.1 address if your in vlan 5.. So your switch is clearly not setup correctly. or its not doing what it should be doing.. If you were in vlan 5 it would not be possible for you to get arp answers for anything in 192.168.1

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                    r79c @johnpoz
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                    @johnpoz said in Netgear/Vlans/Pfsense:

                    This is switch setup
                    pfsense - 1U,5T --- switch --- 5U --- vlan 5 client

                    If you could look at the following pictures they show the netgear switch setup as it is at the moment.

                    https://ibb.co/0ft99fJ
                    https://ibb.co/D9W0ZXV
                    https://ibb.co/wy401MF
                    https://ibb.co/z7Rv26Z

                    Pfsense is plugged in to port 2

                    VLAN5 PC Client is plugged in to port 1

                    Everything else is plugged into port 3

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                    • johnpozJ
                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                      last edited by johnpoz

                      that looks correct yes..

                      But its not working if your seeing mac of devices in 192.168.1..

                      Clear your arp table... Do they come back? trying pinging one of those 192.168.1 address from your client after you clear your arp.

                      BTW your rules on vlan 5 are WRONG!!! source would NEVER be pfsense on vlan 5 address.. Source would be vlan 5 net..

                      What did you set netgears IP too? You said you changed it.

                      What is the hardware of your pfsense box?
                      6DB311

                      That doesn't resolve as maker of networking gear..

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                        r79c @johnpoz
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                        @johnpoz said in Netgear/Vlans/Pfsense:

                        Clear your arp table

                        cleared and not returned

                        cannot ping any 192.168.1 or 192.168.5

                        i have the following arp entries now

                        192.168.5.1
                        192.168.5.255
                        224.0.0.22
                        224.0.0.251
                        224.0.0.252
                        239.255.255.250
                        255.255.255.255

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                        • johnpozJ
                          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                          last edited by johnpoz

                          Ok that is better!

                          So simple test is sniff on pfsense vlan interface while you ping it from the client.. Do you see the ping?

                          BTW what hardware is the nic on pfsense? that mac doesn't resolve to anyone..

                          ping.jpg

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                            r79c @johnpoz
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                            @johnpoz said in Netgear/Vlans/Pfsense:

                            Do you see the ping?

                            16:37:10.374829 IP 192.168.5.50 > 192.168.5.1: ICMP echo request, id 1, seq 36, length 40
                            16:37:15.321366 IP 192.168.5.50 > 192.168.5.1: ICMP echo request, id 1, seq 37, length 40
                            16:37:20.337599 IP 192.168.5.50 > 192.168.5.1: ICMP echo request, id 1, seq 38, length 40
                            16:37:25.318515 IP 192.168.5.50 > 192.168.5.1: ICMP echo request, id 1, seq 39, length 40
                            16:37:26.442815 IP 192.168.5.50.53865 > 239.255.255.250.1900: UDP, length 174
                            16:37:27.009842 IP 192.168.5.50.60396 > 192.168.5.1.53: UDP, length 46
                            16:37:27.463007 IP 192.168.5.50.53865 > 239.255.255.250.1900: UDP, length 174
                            16:37:28.011221 IP 192.168.5.50.60396 > 192.168.5.1.53: UDP, length 46
                            16:37:28.465757 IP 192.168.5.50.53865 > 239.255.255.250.1900: UDP, length 174
                            16:37:29.013961 IP 192.168.5.50.60396 > 192.168.5.1.53: UDP, length 46
                            16:37:29.468473 IP 192.168.5.50.53865 > 239.255.255.250.1900: UDP, length 174
                            16:37:31.022413 IP 192.168.5.50.60396 > 192.168.5.1.53: UDP, length 46
                            16:37:32.811702 ARP, Request who-has 192.168.5.1 (6c:b3:11:1c:6c:77) tell 192.168.5.50, length 46
                            16:37:32.811707 ARP, Reply 192.168.5.1 is-at 6c:b3:11:1c:6c:77, length 28
                            16:37:35.033636 IP 192.168.5.50.60396 > 192.168.5.1.53: UDP, length 46
                            
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                              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                              @r79c said in Netgear/Vlans/Pfsense:

                              16:37:10.374829 IP 192.168.5.50 > 192.168.5.1: ICMP echo request, id 1, seq 36, length 40
                              16:37:15.321366 IP 192.168.5.50 > 192.168.5.1: ICMP echo request, id 1, seq 37, length 40

                              Yup... So lets see your rules on on vlan 5 again... And do you have any rules in floating?

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                                r79c @johnpoz
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                                https://ibb.co/rs4tG8r

                                https://ibb.co/zVDwqW4

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                                • johnpozJ
                                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                  last edited by johnpoz

                                  So your blocking it with pfblocker... Disable those rules on floating as test!

                                  That firehol list contains rfc1918 address space!!

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                                    r79c @johnpoz
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                                    Ok I disabled those rules and disabled pfblocker for the time being.

                                    I set those rules up when I set up pfblocker but I was never 100% competent on how it is setup, I only set it up about two weeks ago....

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                                    • johnpozJ
                                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                                      And - are you pinging?

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                                        r79c @johnpoz
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                                        @johnpoz said in Netgear/Vlans/Pfsense:

                                        And - are you pinging?

                                        no

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                                        • johnpozJ
                                          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                          last edited by johnpoz

                                          Well your firewall rule that allows all of IPv4 show hits... And your seeing the traffic actually hit pfsense vlan interface... You were sniffing on the vlan interface right!! not lan..

                                          So lets see your routing table..

                                          Unless you where not sniffing on vlan 5 interface it makes no sense to be honest..

                                          Is pfsense a VM? Or this is a physical box... What is the nic of this box? Why does the mac of the 5.1 not show as known company?

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                                            r79c @johnpoz
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                                            @johnpoz said in Netgear/Vlans/Pfsense:

                                            You were sniffing on the vlan interface right!!

                                            yes

                                            routing table

                                            Destination	Gateway	Flags	Use	Mtu	Netif	Expire
                                            0.0.0.0/1	10.8.2.1	UGS	2057	1500	ovpnc3	
                                            default	192.168.10.1	UGS	112	1500	igb0	
                                            10.8.2.0/24	10.8.2.1	UGS	0	1500	ovpnc3	
                                            10.8.2.1	link#10	UH	7060	1500	ovpnc3	
                                            10.8.2.19	link#10	UHS	0	16384	lo0	
                                            10.8.3.1	link#8	UH	7074	1500	ovpnc1	
                                            10.8.3.10	link#8	UHS	0	16384	lo0	
                                            10.8.8.0/24	10.8.8.1	UGS	0	1500	ovpnc2	
                                            10.8.8.1	link#9	UH	7078	1500	ovpnc2	
                                            10.8.8.4	link#9	UHS	0	16384	lo0	
                                            127.0.0.1	link#4	UH	1350047	16384	lo0	
                                            128.0.0.0/1	10.8.2.1	UGS	57242	1500	ovpnc3	
                                            192.168.1.0/24	link#2	U	815693	1500	igb1	
                                            192.168.1.1	link#2	UHS	0	16384	lo0	
                                            192.168.5.0/24	link#7	U	1927	1500	igb1.5	
                                            192.168.5.1	link#7	UHS	0	16384	lo0	
                                            192.168.10.0/24	link#1	U	0	1500	igb0	
                                            192.168.10.1	6c:b3:11:1c:6c:76	UHS	53316	1500	igb0	
                                            192.168.10.3	link#1	UHS	0	16384	lo0	
                                            217.146.82.191/32	192.168.10.1	UGS	24899	1500	igb0	
                                            
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