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    • johnpozJ
      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
      last edited by johnpoz

      @lovingHDTV said in adding link to my shop:

      Currently I have a T1 line at the shop. It is really slow,

      That is the understatement of the week for sure ;)

      If you have a pfsense in your house, you don't really even need a router in your shop.. Just need a switch, or an AP or both.. Your shop would just become another vlan off your house pfsense. Your wireless bridge setup is just a long wire over wifi.

      Or sure you could use just some soho wifi router as AP to provide switch ports and wifi in your shop.

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        netblues @johnpoz
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        What is the distannce between shop and house?

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        • johnpozJ
          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
          last edited by johnpoz

          With the nano beams your talking KM range so not sure that would be an issue ;) Line of site could be a problem.

          BTW - example setup

          shopsetup.jpg

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            netblues
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            I completely missed the nanobeams part...
            Yes, line of sight is the issue.
            If you have fiber then it would be faster to access the internet over the nano and fiber connection
            And then use the t1 as a backup...
            So another pfsense at the shop, and gateway groups, for automatic failover.

            It depends what you really want to do

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            • johnpozJ
              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
              last edited by johnpoz

              You really don't need any sort of smart switch or router in your shop even - as long as you just want everything in the shop to be on a "shop" network..

              You could prob just cancel the T1 - I mean really its kind of useless in this day an age from a speed point of view.

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              • JKnottJ
                JKnott @lovingHDTV
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                @lovingHDTV said in adding link to my shop:

                Currently I have a T1 line at the shop.

                Ouch!!!

                I remember when a T1 was considered fast, but those days are long gone. As mentioned by someone else, all you need ais a subnet and the means to connect it. I don't know how far your shop is or whether it's reachable over your own property, but there are a variety of ways. Fibre has been mentioned. If you have a couple of phone line pairs, you can use SHDSL to pass a few Mb and there's also point to point WiFi. There is some WiFi gear available that's designed just for that purpose.

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                  lovingHDTV
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                  The shop is about 1000 feet, and line of site is good enough. I went with the nano beams because they have great distance and are pretty cheap. There are some trees, but they are not dense enough to pose a problem.

                  The picture John posted is fairly accurate. For the interim I still want to have the T1 as a failover at the router in the shop. When everything is running nicely it will go away, saving me about $400 per month :)

                  Today at the shop my LAN and VLAN are the same setup as my house. That is what is confusing me, is there a way to setup this link to the shop and not have to redo everything in the shop?

                  For example. My house and shop are setup as LAN is 192.168.1.0, VLANs are 192.168.10.0 (IOT) and 192.168.20.0 (Guest). I'd like to not have to reconfigure my shop to something different, just provide a different internet feed.

                  Is this possible with the picture above?

                  thanks,
                  david

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                  • JKnottJ
                    JKnott @lovingHDTV
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                    @lovingHDTV said in adding link to my shop:

                    about $400 per month :)

                    For that kind of money, you can get fibre, running @ 1 GB and have lots of change left over. Where I live, 1 Gb over fibre is $114/month from my ISP.

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                      lovingHDTV
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                      OK I finally go the link between the two nano beams.

                      I run them through the ig2 interface on the router. I can ping the dishes from both sides, I can dhcp an IP from the router, from the router in the shop. so that part is working.

                      However I cannot ping anything outside the local network from the shop. I looked at my shop_link interface and the IPV4 gateway is set to none. I went to add a gateway, but my router gateway didn't show up.

                      It seems that I may need to add a gateway for the shop_link interface?

                      thanks,
                      david

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                      • kiokomanK
                        kiokoman LAYER 8
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                        no IPv4 Upstream gateway must be none
                        you have to check firewall rules for that interface
                        out of the box only LAN is open and can go everywhere if you have a new interface like OPT you need to set the firewall rules yourself first
                        you can ping your own vlan network because the traffic is not passing through pfsense yet

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                          lovingHDTV
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                          I can ping from my lan to the shop_link. I can ping all the nano beam dishes and the router in the shop, all 10.10.1.0/24 ip addresses.

                          In the shop I can ping the nano beam dishes, but I cannot ping anything else.

                          The only firewall rules for the shop_link are:
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                          For my gateway interface I just see the port forwarding rules to get to my LAN services. There is nothing there for the shop_link.

                          Do I add rules to the shop_link interface or the gateway inteface?

                          thanks
                          david

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                          • johnpozJ
                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                            Well your shop firewall rules block everything.. So why would you think you could ping anything?

                            Why would you be blocking bogon? And blocking rfc1918 is going to prevent you from going to any of your other networks for sure.

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                            • kiokomanK
                              kiokoman LAYER 8
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                              the last 2 rules are disabled from what i can see
                              maybe start with a rule that permit any to any and see if it work
                              you can adjust it later eventually

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                                lovingHDTV @johnpoz
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                                @johnpoz
                                These settings are just the defaults it gets created with. I didn't change any of them.

                                I don't understand what the RFC 1918 or bogon networks are so I didn't change them.

                                At my shop I don't need access to my LAN, just to get to the internet.

                                david

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                                • johnpozJ
                                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                  last edited by johnpoz

                                  Pfsense sure and the hell does not create rfc1918 or bogon block on a new lan interface.. Only if you made pfsense think this was a wan interface would it do that.. Which this is not to be honest.. it would be just a transit network to your other router.. Which you don't have or even need..

                                  I even gave a drawing of how you would set this up..

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                                    lovingHDTV @johnpoz
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                                    @johnpoz
                                    Interesting. i just added the new interface, named it, put in the static IP (10.10.1.1), setup a dhcp server for it.

                                    the block bogon and RFC1918 boxes come pre-checked, so I left them that way.

                                    david

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                                    • kiokomanK
                                      kiokoman LAYER 8
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                                      well anyway remove this from the interface

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                                        lovingHDTV
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                                        Yes, I did that. I can now ping 10.10.1.1

                                        I'll move it over to a VLAN instead of a different subnet. I have VLANs working so maybe the routing is different.

                                        I chose a new subnet because I wanted to use a different interface port. Maybe I can do that with a VLAN?

                                        david

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                                          lovingHDTV
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                                          I did figure out how to add the dedicated interface to a VLAN, created the VLAN and I can now get to the internet when plugged into the router at the house. Not to get it working on the other end of the nano beams. Need to reconfigure their IP addresses to the VLAN address space.

                                          Not sure why I can't get it working as a 10.10.1.1 subnet, but I do get something now.

                                          thanks,
                                          david

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                                          • johnpozJ
                                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                            last edited by johnpoz

                                            There is no difference to pfsense of vlan or native just naked on an interface, vs just tagging and not tagging the traffic leaving.. Or looking for that vlan tag on traffic entering the physical interface the vlan is on.

                                            All routing would be the same.. Its just another interface, tagged or not tagged is the only thing that is different..

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