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      ck42
      last edited by ck42

      On a whim, I removed the traffic shaper and re-ran the speed test (dslreports/speedtest)
      BAM!
      Fixed...well sort of. (Getting ~550Mbps DOWN and ~900Mbps UP from laptop->switch->pfsense->WAN)

      • speedtest-cli directly on pfSense is still seeing about 750-800Mbps DOWN and only 200Mbps UP (UPLOAD speed is weird being so low - still don't understand this)
      • Workstation->switch-pfSense-WAN is giving me almost 400Mbps now UPLOAD. How can this be higher than the speedtest run directly on pfSense speedtest-cli?

      Re-added traffic shaper and went back to lower speeds.
      Deleted traffic shaper and back up again

      Which then creates the question - Why did the traffic shaper cause this?

      Put the shaper back in and then watched the queues as I ran a speedtest.

      Below, the "DROP_B" column value for qOthersHigh for 'root_em1 (LAN interface) incremented while the speedtest was downloading.
      The qOthersHigh value for the 'root_pppoe0' incremented during while uploading.

      Not sure what this means though....but thinking that the speedtest traffic is somehow getting limited by the queue. Not sure why this particular traffic is getting put into this queue though and not the 'qInternet' queues. Is the filter recognizing something about the speedtest traffic that causes it to place it into a non-qInternet queue?

      pfTOP.png

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      • stephenw10S
        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
        last edited by

        What CPU load do you see now and how is it spread across the cores?
        PPPoE is limited to a single thread in pfSense.

        Try removing the shaper entirely and retesting. You can always roll back that change.

        Steve

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          ck42
          last edited by ck42

          CPU is Celeron(R) CPU G1610 @ 2.60GHz
          2 CPUs: 1 package(s) x 2 core(s)

          Top normally shows both cores in upper 90's% when NOT running any speed tests.

          Top is shown WHILE the speedtest was running the download.

          In this one, the Shaper is enabled except I removed any queues where I saw incrementing Drops when running speed tests.

          top2.png

          This is with the Shaper completely removed

          top3.png

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          • stephenw10S
            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
            last edited by

            What does the output of vmstat -i look like?

            I would expect both cores to be mostly idle when you're not testing. That's what the idle process there signifies.
            Neither core is anywhere close to 100% even with no shaper so that doesn't look like what's limiting it.

            What throughput do you see without any shaper?

            Steve

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              ck42
              last edited by

              Here's the vmstat:

              vmstat.png

              Both cores are nearly 100% idle when not speed testing.
              ...and worse case I've seen is that a core goes down to maybe around 50% when speed testing.
              But it's 1000% repeatable that if I remove the Shaper that speeds go up significantly.

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              • stephenw10S
                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                last edited by

                Hmm, em0 only has one queue/interrupt. It may not make any difference if that's the PPPoE interface. Odd though.

                Are those NICs indentical? On-board? Can you swap them out or add others?

                Steve

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                  ck42 @stephenw10
                  last edited by

                  @stephenw10
                  NICs are both onboard.
                  I don't think I have any NIC cards right now even if I wanted to do this.

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                  • stephenw10S
                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                    last edited by

                    Are they actually the same? Check pciconf -lv for the chip.

                    Maybe try swapping the assignments, see if that changes anything.

                    Steve

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                      ck42
                      last edited by

                      Not EXACTLY the same:

                      em0@pci0:0:25:0: class=0x020000 card=0x20368086 chip=0x15028086 rev=0x04 hdr=0x00
                      vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
                      device = '82579LM Gigabit Network Connection (Lewisville)'
                      class = network
                      subclass = ethernet

                      em1@pci0:2:0:0: class=0x020000 card=0x20368086 chip=0x10d38086 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00
                      vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
                      device = '82574L Gigabit Network Connection'
                      class = network
                      subclass = ethernet

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                      • stephenw10S
                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator @ck42
                        last edited by

                        Hmm, not seeing any easy details to compare there. The 825747 though is very common, I wouldn't expect to see any issues with.
                        I would try swapping them to see if it changes anything.

                        Steve

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