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    Certificate Revocation List Max. Lifetime

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    • RicoR
      Rico LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance
      last edited by

      Thanks for your answers. As I said, just asking for my understanding...
      BTW, e.g. OpenVPN does not really care about Cert lifetimes AFAIK.
      Lets assume I'd revoke a 36500 days lifetime User Cert used in OpenVPN. He would be able to login again after 10000 days and I couldn't do anything about it besides creating a new CA? Only talking about the Certs part here, not disabling the User account and so on...

      -Rico

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      • johnpozJ
        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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        @Rico said in Certificate Revocation List Max. Lifetime:

        He would be able to login again after 10000 days

        So in 27 years ;) You think that will be an issue?

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        • jimpJ
          jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
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          You'd have to check it to try but I would hope that when testing against an expired CRL, it would fail to validate anything because the CRL itself no longer validates.

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          • RicoR
            Rico LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @johnpoz
            last edited by

            No, in 27 years I'm retired anyway @johnpoz โ˜บ
            @jimp I'm going to try this, thanks.

            How does the Lifetime even start counting? CRL creation date? CA "Valid From"? Cert "Valid From"?
            I can't find anything related in the docs. ๐Ÿ˜Œ

            Small offtopic: And what's the point of creating multiple CRLs for the same CA?

            Thanks again guys. ๐Ÿ˜Š

            -Rico

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            • jimpJ
              jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate @Rico
              last edited by

              @Rico said in Certificate Revocation List Max. Lifetime:

              How does the Lifetime even start counting? CRL creation date? CA "Valid From"? Cert "Valid From"?

              The life of the CRL itself. It isn't related in any way to the life of the CA or certs.

              I can't find anything related in the docs.

              That would be in OpenSSL docs (or general x.509 docs)

              Small offtopic: And what's the point of creating multiple CRLs for the same CA?

              You might be using multiple OpenVPN instances and revoke a cert from one but not the other. Not a great way to segment but still a valid use case.

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              • RicoR
                Rico LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance
                last edited by

                I still feel stupid about the CRL part.
                With a new CRL created I only see

                	<crl>
                		<refid>5e87623f8cd1e</refid>
                		<descr><![CDATA[test_ca_crl]]></descr>
                		<caref>5e8761f2c85ec</caref>
                		<method>internal</method>
                		<serial>9999</serial>
                		<lifetime>1</lifetime>
                	</crl>
                

                How does the CRL know the creation time?

                -Rico

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                • jimpJ
                  jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
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                  Every time the firewall refreshes the CRL it makes a new copy with the lifetime starting at that point.

                  To check the start/end time you'd need to get the text of the CRL and run it through OpenSSL to dump the properties.

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                  • RicoR
                    Rico LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance
                    last edited by

                    So with a lifetime set to 9999 days every firewall reboot or hitting the "Export CRL" button (WebGUI) would reset the lifetime back to 9999 ?

                    -Rico

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                    • jimpJ
                      jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                      last edited by

                      Any time anything refreshes the CRL, including OpenVPN or IPsec restarts, changes to the CRL, etc.

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                      • RicoR
                        Rico LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance
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                        Thank you for clearing that up.

                        -Rico

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