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    No Internet after upgrading Comcast Business Gateway/modem

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    • GertjanG
      Gertjan
      last edited by

      And the answer is here :

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      We know it's one of these (because we all have the same RFC 1918 IP ^^^^ ):

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      but ... not sure.

      When you connected a PC to the ComCast router, normally, everything worked right away.
      That is, when you buy a PC, the default network settings is : use DHCP get get a IP/Gateway/DNS etc. You have tested this.
      Guess what : every device on earth works like this !! And this includes pfSense. Which means : the WAN interface is set up as DHCP (client) as a default, so : hook up the WAN interface to an upstream router, and it will get assigned a IP/Gateway and even a DNS (but pfSense doesn't use the upstream DNS, it prefers to oook at the DNS root servers).
      One exception : if pfSense is using the default 192.168.1.0/24 on it's LAN ,a the upstream router offers an IP out of an identical network range 192.168.1.0/24 then routing is broken.
      Like assigning yourself an WAN IP that is used by the NSA, and being surprised that nothing works (and asking yourself why all those black helicopters are circling above your house).

      An issue might be : you have two WAN interfaces now !?
      Adding a second WAN doesn't change the default gateway, it should still work.
      You're not saying anything about this first WAN interface. It worked before ? Does it have the same RFC 1918 IP ?

      What do you have here :

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      No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
      Edit : and where are the logs ??

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        bazzacad
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        Thanks for the reply.
        No my interface isn't in the 10.1.10.X local IP range.
        It's the public static IP Comcast has given to me, the same goes for my other WAN interface.
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        And the gateways are setup like so.
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        The other "WANGW" is working fine. If I set it to be the default, the internet works fine. If I change the default to "CMSTGW" then I can no longer access the internet.

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        • Cool_CoronaC
          Cool_Corona
          last edited by

          If the comcast modem is not in bridge mode, then its using a NAT'ed IP and not the public one.

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            bazzacad @Cool_Corona
            last edited by bazzacad

            @Cool_Corona
            I just tried this, but it didn't allow it. Should I be setting it to something else?
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            • GertjanG
              Gertjan
              last edited by

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              You can't do that.
              Change the setting of the WANCMST interface to "DHCP"

              if your WANLMI WAN interface has also a router in front of it - not some device in 'bridge' mode, you should do the same for that interface.

              No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
              Edit : and where are the logs ??

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              • Cool_CoronaC
                Cool_Corona
                last edited by

                If its in NAT mode, then as @Gertjan stated, use DHCP to get the new lease.

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                  bazzacad
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                  OK, I tried as you said, but then I could no longer ping or SSH into my public IP from the outside.

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                  • GertjanG
                    Gertjan @bazzacad
                    last edited by Gertjan

                    @bazzacad said in No Internet after upgrading Comcast Business Gateway/modem:

                    @Cool_Corona
                    I just tried this, but it didn't allow it. Should I be setting it to something else?
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                    Could work, if you finished the setup ;) If all incoming traffic is NATted from 50.2xxx.xxx.130 to 10.1.10.1 - then you should set your pfSense WAN IP to static and set it to 10.1.10.1 etc.
                    Basically, the DMZ option (left menu) offers you identical functionality.

                    @bazzacad said in No Internet after upgrading Comcast Business Gateway/modem:

                    but then I could no longer ping or SSH into my public IP from the outside.

                    You are aware of the fact that you have a router (pfSEnse) in front of the router (ComCast) ?

                    So, when the ICMP comes in, what is the first router that packet meets ? The ComCast Router !! Right ?!
                    So : question back : doies the ComCast router replies to ICMP ? This is probably an option to set in this router.

                    My router has this option :

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                    It says : should the (ISP) router reply to ping : yes or no.

                    Or, another possibility : use plain old NAT.
                    Add a NAT rule using the ICMP protocol (NOT TCP, NOT UDP) - The ICMP doesn't use ports. The destination IP should be the IP that ComCast assigned to pfSense. In this case, the ComCast router just forwards incoming ICMP packets to pfSense, and you have to set up pfSense to deal with it.

                    NATting TCP and UDP is classic. Every router on planet earth can handle that. ICMP NATting is less known. Only the manual of your router - or you looking through the GUI menus, will tell if it is possible.

                    Btw : NATting is an ancient thing, and needed for IPv4 stuff.
                    When you start to use IPv6, you can throw away the NAT knowledge.
                    ( and be ready to learn 'new' things - loads of it )

                    No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                    Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                    • chpalmerC
                      chpalmer
                      last edited by chpalmer

                      Take a read here. Im running out the door but maybe this will help.. :)

                      https://business.comcast.com/help-and-support/internet/comcast-business-static-ip-local-area-network/

                      https://business.comcast.com/help-and-support/internet/comcast-business-internet-view-your-static-ip-address/

                      https://business.comcast.com/help-and-support/internet/using-a-static-ip/

                      Triggering snowflakes one by one..
                      Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4590T CPU @ 2.00GHz on an M400 WG box.

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                        bazzacad @chpalmer
                        last edited by

                        @chpalmer
                        Thanks for the links, they are helpful. I think I need to set the static route on the Comcast modem, but the instructions done't match the UI.

                        The instruction says to enter the Destination IP, but the UI asks for the Destination Subnet.
                        So I think the Destination IP/Subnet should be: 50.2xx.xxx.134 & the Subnet Mask should be 255.255.255.248. Does that look correct to you?

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                          bazzacad
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                          Or maybe turning on the DMZ & setting pfSense as the DMZ Host...?

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                          • dotdashD
                            dotdash
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                            You should be able to just check the box to bypass the firewall for the true static ips.

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                              bazzacad @dotdash
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                              @dotdash
                              Sorry, which box are you referring to? Enable DMZ?

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                              • dotdashD
                                dotdash
                                last edited by dotdash

                                On the Comcast gateway, there should be a checkbox 'bypass firewall for true static ips' or something like that. Do you have a dynamic ip, or a static subnet?
                                Nevermind, should have read the whole thing. The static subnet also needs to be entered on the Comcast box 'public subnet' maybe? You shouldn't need to go into static routing, or use DMZ mode.

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                                  bazzacad @dotdash
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                                  @dotdash
                                  Thanks for the help.
                                  Yes the Comcast firewall is fully turn off.
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                                  Sorry, I'm not sure what you mean by the static/public subnet. I'd think they'd configure that on their end. Where would I set that

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                                  • dotdashD
                                    dotdash
                                    last edited by dotdash

                                    On the older gateways, you look under gateway, firewall, ipv4, then check the box. If you see the public IP on the sheet they gave you under status, that should be all you need.
                                    EDIT- yours looks like the one I have access to. You should be able to get it going with the 'disable firewall for true static subnet' checked and all the forwarding/DMZ/NAT stuff turned off. Public IP on the firewall, pointing to Comcast gateway.

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                                      bazzacad
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                                      Thanks for all the help trying to troubleshoot my internet issues everyone.
                                      I'm pretty sure I've narrowed the issue down to our internal Domain Controller/Bind DNS server.
                                      I discovered, if I changed a LAN workstation to use 1.1.1.1 as it's DNS server, instead of our internal DNS, I could get to the internet just fine over the Comcast gateway. So I've posted a revised question over here if anyone is familiar with Bind/DNS: https://serverfault.com/questions/1011943/bind9-dns-lookups-stopped-working-after-upgrading-our-comcast-modem-gateway

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                                        bazzacad
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                                          bazzacad
                                          last edited by bazzacad

                                          Ohhhhh, maybe the new Comcast Security Edge is blocking my DNS results like these guys...

                                          https://forums.businesshelp.comcast.com/t5/Domain-Names-Static-IP/transparent-dns-proxying-started-after-a-modem-swap/m-p/39845

                                          https://www.reddit.com/r/msp/comments/dikvta/comcast_securityedge/

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                                            bazzacad
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                                            I was able to fix my DNS issues by putting BIND in forwarding mode & not allowing it to use the root authority servers.
                                            Seems Comcast SecurityEdge is blocking the root servers, but not 1.1.1.1 or 8.8.8.8

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