Roblox kills my bandwidth
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I'll take it out and see how the game goes to rule out something weird within vm (virgin media) itself.
Double-natting is an option but might be a ball-ache with the rules I've got. Will take a look though.
Not tried card yet (but have found it) as my wife just literally drove over the dog so I've been at doggie A&E...
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@FarmerB3d said in Roblox kills my bandwidth:
'll take it out and see how the game goes to rule out something weird within vm (virgin media) itself.
Double-natting is an option but might be a ball-ache with the rules I've got. Will take a look though.
Not tried card yet (but have found it) as my wife just literally drove over the dog so I've been at doggie A&E...
FBDude, Hope the dog will be ok .
It might be your friend's work fine cos he has the modem in router mode, just try it out in router mode and see if the problem goes away, if it does then its the modem, many Aris modems using Intel chips crap out when many connections are open while in bridge mode.. -
Not true. If the firmware has not been updated to a fixed version then it will be affected either way.
https://www.dslreports.com/forum/r31122204-SB6190-Puma6-TCP-UDP-Network-Latency-Issue-Discussion
Over 9000 posts on that thread. Lots of info on the badmodems site as well.
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@chpalmer said in Roblox kills my bandwidth:
Not true. If the firmware has not been updated to a fixed version then it will be affected either way.
Oh it is True. I had the same issue with my Aris modem, in router mode it worked fine but in bridge it craped out, My ISP also tested and found the same problem so they changed my Modem model and on My same Network now everything works fine. I am not talking about the Latency issue, a problem I had and also read about is when in bridge mode going over 500 connections the modem drops its speed drastically.
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@Chrismallia said in Roblox kills my bandwidth:
@chpalmer said in Roblox kills my bandwidth:
Not true. If the firmware has not been updated to a fixed version then it will be affected either way.
Oh it is True. I had the same issue with my Aris modem, in router mode it worked fine but in bridge it craped out, My ISP also tested and found the same problem so they changed my Modem model and on My same Network everything works fine
I believe you might have had something change that would mask it. Probably a funnel slowing down the rate of UPD..?? But the problem with that chipset is in the "modem" section of the device. That never gets disabled. And when you go through that whole thread plus about a dozen other threads from Europe with those using Fritzbox modems you will see that many- many people were/are having issues with router mode just the same. We at our company changed out about a dozen Hitron models for other types due to issues with VOIP traffic that the ISP could not/would not explain.
Because several of the issues still exist even after firmware updates (only a couple of issues can be called patched) it really is better to replace any Puma6 equipped modem with a Broadcom equipped model. Get involved in the class action lawsuit if you are out money over it.
Several new models coming out will have a 2.5t-base Ethernet port on them. I imagine with these new models the older d3.1 models will come down in price soon.
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@chpalmer
Thanks for your detailed info. I had the Aris tg2492 and also know some guys who have the same modem with the same problem, all we know is when downloading, for example, a torrent and the client goes over 500 connections the modem drops to 2mbps and stays that way till the connections drop or download stops, when putting the aris back to router mode this did not happen, My ISP replaced the modem with a different model can't remember the new model right now and I can download with over a thousand connections with no problems. -
@chpalmer
mmmmm new modem is TM3402B, I think these are also in the list but this is not giving me the over 500 connections problem:). Well confusing what can I say lol -
Torrents are not UDP.
UDP traffic shuts these down like a worn out Ford Pinto.
Case in point- You could be connected to 20 different servers pulling close to your subscribed download speed just fine and then someone makes a VOIP call out the same connection and the bandwidth slows to a crawl and even unusable.. Well.. took a little more traffic than one call but in an office with a few phones the problem was very evident at times.
In the OP's case Roblox does in fact use UDP. Thus his symptoms are very much inline with the problems the Puma6 victims encountered.
In your case Id wonder if you had any kind of camera system on your network?? Your primary router may have been set to allow UPnP. Many cameras come from the factory with UPnP enabled. So you then have a camera online and publicly available without any knowledge of this. Suddenly you cam is on one of those "open camera" search engines and people from around the world are trying to access it creating the UDP traffic that brings down your network. Since your modems router does not have UPnp enabled those connections now disappear. Not saying this was your issue but it is an example of what we found at one customer site. Just saying that there are more than one reason that you had that experience. But I can guarantee you that the affected modems are still "broke" in router mode.
If the ISP has not upgraded the firmware by now to fix the UDP issue.. they will likely never do so.. IMHO.
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well, dang. I thought your "PCI" was s mis-print of PCI-E and thought nothing of it. It seems though the MB only has the PCI and mini-PCI-E slot on it.
A 1GB PCI Intel card has to be, from what I can see, PCI-X (now there's throwing your mind back. Next-stop: ISA :) )So if I get a 10/100 PCI card to test on it's effort t get, setup etc and then I'm limited to 100. Yes, the test cost me £15 from fleabay rather than new PC....
I'll read the threads following my last one and catch up on the chat about UDP (which Roblox is, I can see in the sniff)
I do have a spare i7 desktop thingy which I've not used in a couple of years. I can put my spare PCI-E Intel NIC in that and use that as a test for a week. Will look into that.
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p.s.
Dog seems ok. No broken bones they say but he's staying in over night at least. That utterly blows any budget I might have had for a new firewall. New Firewall, fix pooch - the wife says it's an easy decision :) -
So question:
Is something like this best:
https://www.mini-itx.com/~Z390-I-AORUS
With i3 8100T + 8GB RAM you're looking at sub-500 all-in.
orhttps://www.amazon.co.uk/Perfect-Untangle-Monowall-Firewall-Appliance/dp/B071GD2LDY/ref=psdc_428651031_t3_B076B6SWG5?th=1
Half the price but is an atom @ 1.9GHzor
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B076B6SWG5/ref=crt_ewc_title_dp_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=AR9G6BN98G2V1
Dual core i5 @ 2.5GHz (burst 3.1GHz)First and third are comparable in price. Middle one is atom and "slow" so might that not work in the long run,
My current kit I've had for around 6ish years (found invoice - June 2014) so I'm not saying I feel hard done by....
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Well, I've gone and bought the last option. "Protectli Vault 6 Port, Firewall Micro Appliance/Mini PC - Intel Dual Core i5, AES-NI, Barebone"
For what it's worth, ALiExpress has it for around £200 cheaper but you'll get stung on shipping time and customs charges. So if you're not in a hurry you could save. I can't live another day in lock-down with the kids being deprived of their only social interaction....
Will update when I get it up and running.
Thanks for the help
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@FarmerB3d
I still think you should have tried at least plugin a laptop directly to the modem and see if you still get the problem before buying another PC. Also, I would have gone with a Netgate device for good quality, stability and guaranteed compatibility with pfsense. -
It would have been a lot cheaper I know. I don't have any spare kit to try though. The desktop I thought is OK but don't have a spare disk.
While not testing in normal mode, I could tonight and if it too is slow (i.e. The modem is porked) I can return the kit unopened.
Netgate is slightly cheaper but limited availability in the UK for quick delivery.
At the moment, I have to pay a premium to get myself out of trouble. Sucks but there you go...
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Thought I would give a quick update on this for those who care :)
I bought the i5 jobbie. A bit on the steep side in terms of price and spec but I had no other short-term solutions.
Must say, it's a nice bit of kit. 6 Intel LAN (I do wonder if they fake though
), i5, I put 4GB RAM in and a spare 60GB MSATA I had.Setup was painless. I did a final backup of my existing one, installed pfSense and restored the backup. A quick interface remapping and I was done. Shut down, switched out and booted. It all worked :)
Thoughts:
- Speedtest always showed around 290/300 over wifi. I now easily get 350-360. (Wifi is Ubiquiti kit)
- VPNs are faster. Much much faster. I always use PIA and peer locally but only ever got 70-80Mb/s down. Never an issues as I don't need more than that (other than speed test
) I now get full bandwidth. I got 340 to NL (I am not in NL....) So, a combination of faster CPU and AES offloading makes a massive difference. Odd thing though, I never saw the CPU peg on the old j1900 which lead me to believe it was ok. - Acid test. Not once have the kids simultaneously gone "DaaaAAAAAaaaaaDDDD I'm lagging!" from across the house Likewise, myself and my wife have continued to work on video calls without issue.
Could I have bought one of the £200 cheaper Atom ones and had the same result. Probably.
Would I recommend this setup for someone? Sure. It's compact, neat, costs about the same as a self-build (but looks better)A gamble but it paid off (so far). Thanks for your help on this. Hopefully someone else reads it and benefits.
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