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    • DaddyGoD
      DaddyGo
      last edited by

      Of course, this is an example from my system, you use your own 9.9.9.9 setting. :-)

      Cats bury it so they can't see it!
      (You know what I mean if you have a cat)

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        cburbs @DaddyGo
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        @DaddyGo

        Ok that fixed that part. Makes sense too after reading on it more.

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          cburbs
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          Also if I do an Ipconfig /all on my devices should it be using my pfsense box or the above DNS settings?

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          • DaddyGoD
            DaddyGo
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            @cburbs said in Quad9 and DNS Resolver:

            Also if I do an Ipconfig /all on my devices should it be using my pfsense box or the above DNS settings?

            In your place, situation with this setting, I would only give pfSense to the DNS server, so that your DNS could not leak. (https://www.dnsleaktest.com/)
            Or with DHCP, but still only the pfSense box should be the server.

            Be careful with DHCP server + pfblockerng, create static entries for DHCP
            it’s an old story, so you can avoid the unbond of restarting multiple times

            Cats bury it so they can't see it!
            (You know what I mean if you have a cat)

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            • DaddyGoD
              DaddyGo
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              @cburbs said in Quad9 and DNS Resolver:

              Static DHCP: unchecked

              What I forgot: :-)
              if you decide to... and use DHCP on your network, check this as well: Static DHCP: to checked (this is in view of my previous remark)

              Cats bury it so they can't see it!
              (You know what I mean if you have a cat)

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                cburbs @DaddyGo
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                @DaddyGo

                So DNS should be pointing to my pfsense box?

                When I go to dnsleaktest I Get the following -
                207.162.219.52 None Lightpoint Colocation & Hosting LLC Beaverton, United States
                66.96.115.176 res100.pdx.rrdns.pch.net. WoodyNet United States
                66.96.115.177 res200.pdx.rrdns.pch.net. WoodyNet United States
                66.96.115.178 res300.pdx.rrdns.pch.net. WoodyNet United States

                The last 3 I believe show quad9 is working correctly just not sure why I am getting the top IP which is a Colocation/Hosting place in my area? Why would this one show up?

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                • DaddyGoD
                  DaddyGo
                  last edited by

                  @cburbs said in Quad9 and DNS Resolver:

                  @DaddyGo
                  So DNS should be pointing to my pfsense box?
                  When I go to dnsleaktest I Get the following -
                  207.162.219.52 None Lightpoint Colocation & Hosting LLC Beaverton, United States
                  66.96.115.176 res100.pdx.rrdns.pch.net. WoodyNet United States
                  66.96.115.177 res200.pdx.rrdns.pch.net. WoodyNet United States
                  66.96.115.178 res300.pdx.rrdns.pch.net. WoodyNet United States
                  The last 3 I believe show quad9 is working correctly just not sure why I am getting the top IP which is a Colocation/Hosting place in my area? Why would this one show up?

                  You will never see pure 9.9.9.9 DNS resolution, quad9 doesn't have its own network, therefore using CDN, as you can see WoodyNet, so I don't use it for 9.9.9.9 never, hmmmmm (https://www.snbforums.com/threads/cloud9-dns.56918/)

                  Cats bury it so they can't see it!
                  (You know what I mean if you have a cat)

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                    cburbs
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                    So it does seem to be working on that part then.

                    Do you also use this in your setup?

                    https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/dns/blocking-dns-queries-to-external-resolvers.html

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                    • DaddyGoD
                      DaddyGo
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                      @cburbs said in Quad9 and DNS Resolver:

                      So it does seem to be working on that part then.
                      Do you also use this in your setup?

                      There can be many approaches to this theme:

                      Use what I have already described above for 853 DNSoverTLS + DNSSEC (https://dnssec.vs.uni-due.de/) and then you can also block port 53 on the firewall as a rule.
                      Don't forget the firewall is blocking all unsolicited traffic by default, this is the rule on pfSense.
                      Another solution is to use Suricata and/or Snort with ET DNS rules, for example

                      Cats bury it so they can't see it!
                      (You know what I mean if you have a cat)

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                      • DaddyGoD
                        DaddyGo
                        last edited by

                        Addition: the pfSense is blocked from the WAN side, so if you think about the LAN side you can disable the external DNS query for the clients or as I mentioned ET DNS rules set will be the solution (IPS on LAN)

                        Cats bury it so they can't see it!
                        (You know what I mean if you have a cat)

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                        • DaddyGoD
                          DaddyGo
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                          @cburbs said in Quad9 and DNS Resolver:

                          207.162.219.52

                          Your first DNS point is suspicious: https://www.reddit.com/r/pihole/comments/efi7u8/google_cloud_openvpnpihole_instance_leads_to_an/

                          Cats bury it so they can't see it!
                          (You know what I mean if you have a cat)

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                            cburbs
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                            Yep but I can't figure out why it is showing up.

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                            • DaddyGoD
                              DaddyGo
                              last edited by

                              @cburbs said in Quad9 and DNS Resolver:

                              Yep but I can't figure out why it is showing up.

                              This is a typical DNA leak from your OS, I think.
                              Even if the NIC settings only point to the router in terms of DNS.

                              I had a similar experience with a module of Avast antivirus software that was "trusted sites", if it is enabled then Avast will also connect to its own DNS server to check the sites you visit and of course log your browsings :-).
                              Do you have similar software on your system?

                              Cats bury it so they can't see it!
                              (You know what I mean if you have a cat)

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                                cburbs
                                last edited by cburbs

                                No and i get the same results off of my phone.

                                Also if I switch to cloudfare and run dnsleaktest

                                IP Hostname ISP Country
                                172.68.173.29 None Cloudflare Portland, United States

                                Also Do you have any rules under firewal/rules/wan?

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                                • DaddyGoD
                                  DaddyGo
                                  last edited by

                                  @cburbs said in Quad9 and DNS Resolver:

                                  172.68.173.29

                                  Try looking in the state table for what is associated with this IP address. (Diagnostics / States / States)
                                  I will be more and more curious....

                                  With the settings discussed, the dnsleak test should show something like this....

                                  ac2c7655-4bd1-4961-85a8-cce32b9a4edd-image.png

                                  The only difference between the DNS settings of our systems is that I perform DNS queries through a VPN tunnel. (ExpressVPN)
                                  since the datacenter is two blocks away from me and both the Cloudflare and VPN provider ping times are 2 to 4 ms (therefore, DNS over VPN also provides very good speed)

                                  BTW, Do you have a VPN?

                                  Cats bury it so they can't see it!
                                  (You know what I mean if you have a cat)

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                                    cburbs
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                                    No VPN here just trying to tweak my Pfsense box as a starting point. Lock things down better.

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                                    • DaddyGoD
                                      DaddyGo
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                                      @cburbs said in Quad9 and DNS Resolver:

                                      Also Do you have any rules under firewal/rules/wan?

                                      Yeeeepppp is actually the box for that.

                                      to your previous question: Also Do you have any rules under firewal/rules/wan?

                                      • I don't like to load the WAN side with rules, it's like drilling a hole in a sieve, pfSense block all unsolicited traffic on the WAN, so I have more floating rules

                                      Cats bury it so they can't see it!
                                      (You know what I mean if you have a cat)

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                                        cburbs @DaddyGo
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                                        @DaddyGo

                                        I have a WAN rule called - Easy Rule: Passed from Firewall log view - says it was created by Easy Rule .

                                        Trying to figure out what it is -
                                        Protocol: IPv4 TCP
                                        Source: ISP IP addres
                                        Destination: 104.25.242.31
                                        Port: 80(HTTP)

                                        Destination IP is Carrier: cloudflare

                                        Confused?

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                                        • DaddyGoD
                                          DaddyGo
                                          last edited by

                                          @cburbs said in Quad9 and DNS Resolver:

                                          Easy Rule

                                          Yes it is, :-).
                                          did you add it this? with this? (https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/firewall/adding-rules-with-easyrule.html)

                                          Cats bury it so they can't see it!
                                          (You know what I mean if you have a cat)

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                                            cburbs
                                            last edited by cburbs

                                            It has a date from almost a year ago. Could have as I think that is when I was looking at snort but was having all sorts of issues so I disabled it all.

                                            So I probably don't need that rule - I won't do anything with it now but remove it later today.

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