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    • johnpozJ
      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
      last edited by johnpoz

      Let us know how it turns out, and post up some results of your faster than gig transfers ;)

      If you go the multigig interface route, then no need for smb3 multichannel.. That is only needed when you have more than 1 connection be it independent nics or a lagg setup. Without smb3 multichannel your box is never going to transfer to the nas be it you had 1 or 10 connections.

      As you see from my smb3 connection output, the pc is just using the 1 physical connection to the nas (2.5g) but it shows smb3 multichannel because I have that enabled on the nas.. And if this connection goes down.. It switches over to using the 2x1 interfaces.. I would turn if off and show that - but in the middle of moving some files back and forth ;)

      Lagg for sure has many uses.. But its not really helpful for file transfers between specific devices.. Now if you wanted to leverage both interfaces on your nas for a total of more than 1 gig of bandwidth to be used by multiple devices then yeah that works great.. But if your goal is faster between 1 pc and the nas.. Its not really going to help without smb3 multichannel.

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      • chpalmerC
        chpalmer
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        I did this by running 10g SFP+ cards in my desktops and NAS here through a 10G switch. Probably the best option. You can just run SFP+ cards and connect them direct as well.

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        • johnpozJ
          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
          last edited by johnpoz

          Yup that would be the BEST option if you can do it for sure..

          In my case no way to add 10ge to the nas.. And I don't have a 10ge switch :( as of yet.. When its time to retire this nas.. .I will for sure be upgrading to 10ge.. But I would hope I can get 3 more years out of it.. As long as I can get 1 more out of it would be ok with that..

          I would hope in the next year or 2 we see a drastic reduction in 10ge pricing in switches... I would really like to just use copper..

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            lhock98 @chpalmer
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            @chpalmer said in LAGG On LAN:

            10g SFP+ cards

            i just checked a Mellanox ConnectX-3 MCX311 single port 10g pci-e desktop card plus 3 meter cable cost is about usd 70. how much do you paid for your 10g desktop card?

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            • chpalmerC
              chpalmer
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              https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LZRSQM9/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

              Do not remember what the price was in 2018 but these are them.

              https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00U8Q7946/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
              Transceivers for the desktops..

              https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MYGOS1R/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
              These are in my switch..

              Factoring in the switch this is a bit spendy but machine to machine I was in under $200 at the time. I added/replaced my main switch later.

              $70 is a bit cheaper.

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              • chpalmerC
                chpalmer
                last edited by chpalmer

                This just popped up on my recommended search..

                https://www.amazon.com/MikroTik-CRS305-1G-4S-Gigabit-Ethernet-RouterOS/dp/B07LFKGP1L

                Could come in handy..

                I don't think its going to be to long before 10g is common place.

                https://www.amazon.com/s?k=sfp%2B&i=electronics&ref=nb_sb_noss_1

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                  lhock98 @chpalmer
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                  i am using the ciso sg300-20 with 2 port SPF, so for me is easy if want to upgrade to 10g spf.

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                  • johnpozJ
                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                    last edited by johnpoz

                    @lhock98 said in LAGG On LAN:

                    sg300-20 with 2 port SPF, so for me is easy if want to upgrade to 10g spf.

                    Yeah that switch doesn't support 10g spf, which would be spf+ btw.

                    spf has tech max of 4.25gps, and I have the same switch just the 28 port model.. It only support gig spf modules.. AFAIK...

                    Cheapest way to get 10ge between your pc and your nas would be cheap cards you can put in them.. That can talk the same flavor.. be it copper or fiber.. Most likely the cheapest way would be some spf+ card you can add into your PC and then connect to your nas with fiber.

                    Reason I had to settle for 2.5g was fastest cheap nic I could find work with my nas was the $40 ones.. No switch, and current pc doesn't even have any slots open ;) So 2x usb nics and cat5e cable laying around and was talking 2.5 for 80$.. Now talk of the different card that could do 5, but it was 80 something each.. And pretty much at the limit of drives anyway in the nas doing 280.. So settled for the under $100 option ;) While some people might say it wasn't worth it for the extra 50MBps - but that can make a big difference when your moving multiple gig sized files back and forth.. To me was money well spent to go from 226Max to 282 I have seen.. Very satisfy when get a straight line 281MBps copy.. Now depending on what else the nas is doing, or the pc.. That fluctuates, etc.. But was seeing that as well when just doing smb3 multichannel over the 2x1 gig connections.. So its not every copy all the time.. But more times than not its past the 250MBps mark..

                    I got 3 people streaming movies off the nas currently - so no don't get that pretty 280MBps full speed transfer.. But hey happy with 250ish, etc.. ;)

                    Once you break the 113MBps gig barrier.. It's really HARD to go back.. Its like watching paint dry ;) even if full boar 113MBps flat line copy.. Had to copy like 50GB of stuff from work laptop via wireless to the nas.. It was doing pretty steady 50MBps - my gawd its like freaking dial up ;) hehehehe

                    Can understand it with the internet.. But locally want to see max the hardware is rated for... Freaking ethernet interface died in the laptop.. Was stuck with wifi.. Was thinking about grabbing the 2.5 usb out of my pc.. But that would of been too much trouble for the amount of data I needed to get off..

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                      lhock98 @johnpoz
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                      @johnpoz thanks for reminded me, too many things need to consider when intend to purchase hardware? Sfp+ max speed is 10g, am i right?

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                      • johnpozJ
                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                        spf+ tech specs are up to 16gbps.. But yeah highest modules you will find prob 10ge max.. Atleast at any reasonable price, etc.

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