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    • GertjanG
      Gertjan @1-21Giggawatts
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      @1-21Giggawatts said in Packetloss on pfsense firewall:

      • is there any way to export the configuration for 2.4.5 so i dont have to configure 2.4.4 from scratch?

      Diagnostics > Backup & Restore > Backup & Restore

      Before you shift back : pfSense 2.4.5 uses FreeBSD 11.3-STABLE and has pretty good Intel NIC support.
      But ...

      Install Google and type
      FreeBSD Intel 82583V

      and heck out the first link found ... 235147 – em(4) driver not working for Intel 82583V Gigabit chip
      This bug report concerns FreeBSD 12.0 and mentions issues with the 82583V NICs and also states that FreeBSD 11.2 - which was the FreeBSD version used by 2.4.4.p3, did work correctly.
      FreeBSD 11.3 probably included the new '82583V" drivers that 12.0 and up also used.

      A patch was proposed. can't tell if that was also backported to FreeBSD 11.3.

      Btw : IMHO : not entirely the fault of FreeBSD. It seemed to have shut down the support of old 'mechanical' interrupt handling. Or, some boards out there use modern Giga bit NIC's - but they are hooked up in the system the old way ... (which NOT support real Giga connections at all , or placing a huge load on the system while doing so...)

      Is there something you can do in your BIOS to overcome the NIC issue ?

      No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
      Edit : and where are the logs ??

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        1-21Giggawatts @Gertjan
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        @Gertjan Im not 100% on which driver is is using do these lines from my genral system log at bootup indicate i am using em1 driver? what does the em1 signify?
        May 20 16:57:06 kernel em1: link state changed to UP

        I also noticed that it was using the same IRQ number for one of my interfaces as the <ACPI PCI-PCI bridge> - would that cause an issue like this if that happened also to be the same IRQ for the LAN interface?

        May 20 15:48:41 kernel em1: <Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Connection 7.6.1-k> port 0xd000-0xd01f mem 0xd0500000-0xd051ffff,0xd0520000-0xd0523fff irq 18 at device 0.0 on pci2
        May 20 15:48:41 kernel pci2: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib2
        May 20 15:48:41 kernel pcib2: [GIANT-LOCKED]
        May 20 15:48:41 kernel pcib2: <ACPI PCI-PCI bridge> irq 18 at device 28.2 on pci0

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          1-21Giggawatts
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          Its a little custom box for pfsense - when connecting to a monitor and rebooting i dont see any options for getting into the BIOS which is a real pain, i only see options for ctrl-s to open the intel boot agent, which doesnt give me access to any of the IRQ settings..

          All getting a bit too hard, does anyone know if I export my configuration from 2.4.5 it can be imported again to 2.4.4?

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          • GertjanG
            Gertjan @1-21Giggawatts
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            @1-21Giggawatts said in Packetloss on pfsense firewall:

            what does the em1 signify?

            Intel NIC's use the driver that identifies itself as "em" - old Intel ones are known as 'fxp' - as Realtek is known as 'rl' etc.
            The first NIC found is registred as em1 - the second as em2 and so on.

            Btw : you really should have em1, em2, em3 and em4 on your system. The fact some are hooked up or not, doesn't make a difference.
            I have also a Quand Intel NIC card, and all 4 exists. Although I have only 2 of them assigned to interfaces.
            The fact that you only have 3 out of 4 means : NIC => bad. One of them, em3 isn't found. The means troubles. Which is great, because your system has troubles .... so you know what to do next ;)

            This is my 'kernel hardware detection log (dmesg)' :

            First two lines : the system discovers it has a PCI bus ...

            pcib3: <ACPI PCI-PCI bridge> at device 30.0 on pci0
            pci2: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib3
            

            and then the first card is found - an old quand Intel NIC :

            em0: <Intel(R) PRO/1000 Legacy Network Connection 1.1.0> port 0xd8c0-0xd8ff mem                                                                                                                       0xef980000-0xef99ffff,0xefa00000-0xefa3ffff irq 18 at device 2.0 on pci2
            em0: Ethernet address: 6c:b3:11:50:c6:c6
            em0: netmap queues/slots: TX 1/256, RX 1/256
            em1: <Intel(R) PRO/1000 Legacy Network Connection 1.1.0> port 0xdc00-0xdc3f mem                                                                                                                       0xef9a0000-0xef9bffff,0xefa40000-0xefa7ffff irq 19 at device 2.1 on pci2
            em1: Ethernet address: 6c:b3:11:50:c6:c7
            em1: netmap queues/slots: TX 1/256, RX 1/256
            em2: <Intel(R) PRO/1000 Legacy Network Connection 1.1.0> port 0xdc40-0xdc7f mem                                                                                                                       0xef9c0000-0xef9dffff,0xefa80000-0xefabffff irq 19 at device 3.0 on pci2
            em2: Ethernet address: 00:1b:21:32:da:42
            em2: netmap queues/slots: TX 1/256, RX 1/256
            em3: <Intel(R) PRO/1000 Legacy Network Connection 1.1.0> port 0xdc80-0xdcbf mem                                                                                                                       0xef9e0000-0xef9fffff,0xefac0000-0xefafffff irq 16 at device 3.1 on pci2
            em3: Ethernet address: 00:1b:21:32:da:43
            em3: netmap queues/slots: TX 1/256, RX 1/256
            

            The onboard NIC is found :

            fxp0: <Intel 82801GB (ICH7) 10/100 Ethernet> port 0xdcc0-0xdcff mem 0xef97f000-0                                                                                                                      xef97ffff irq 20 at device 8.0 on pci2
            miibus0: <MII bus> on fxp0
            inphy0: <i82562ET 10/100 media interface> PHY 1 on miibus0
            inphy0:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto, auto-flow
            fxp0: Ethernet address: 00:12:3f:b3:58:75
            

            You can see that there are 4 "em" NIC's found, and the "fxp" (the onboard Intel NIC).
            Again, only fxp0, em0 and em1 are actually hooked up.

            @1-21Giggawatts said in Packetloss on pfsense firewall:

            I also noticed that it was using the same IRQ number for one of my interfaces as the <ACPI PCI-PCI bridge> - would that cause an issue like this if that happened also to be the same IRQ for the LAN interface?

            IRQ are auto distributes these days That's what they been called ACPI is all about : alocating resources among devices found during boot.
            A quad NIC should/could share the same IRQ - why not.

            @1-21Giggawatts said in Packetloss on pfsense firewall:

            All getting a bit too hard, does anyone know if I export my configuration from 2.4.5 it can be imported again to 2.4.4?

            Of course.
            It's been done all the time.

            No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
            Edit : and where are the logs ??

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              1-21Giggawatts
              last edited by 1-21Giggawatts

              Thanks for the clarification on em drivers. yeah it looked like something is borked as it only found 3. I bit the bullet and re-installed 2.4.5 fresh and restored config tonight - problem has dissappeared - happy days! I will check my kernel logs and see if it finds all 4 NIC's now.

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                1-21Giggawatts
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                Yup - thats better

                em0: <Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Connection 7.6.1-k> port 0xe000-0xe01f mem 0xd0700000-0xd071ffff,0xd0720000-0xd0723fff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci1
                em0: Using an MSI interrupt
                em0: Ethernet address: 00:e0:67:05:24:40
                em0: netmap queues/slots: TX 1/1024, RX 1/1024
                pcib2: <ACPI PCI-PCI bridge> irq 17 at device 28.1 on pci0
                pcib2: [GIANT-LOCKED]
                pci2: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib2
                em1: <Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Connection 7.6.1-k> port 0xd000-0xd01f mem 0xd0600000-0xd061ffff,0xd0620000-0xd0623fff irq 17 at device 0.0 on pci2
                em1: Using an MSI interrupt
                em1: Ethernet address: 00:e0:67:05:24:41
                em1: netmap queues/slots: TX 1/1024, RX 1/1024
                pcib3: <ACPI PCI-PCI bridge> irq 18 at device 28.2 on pci0
                pcib3: [GIANT-LOCKED]
                pci3: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib3
                em2: <Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Connection 7.6.1-k> port 0xc000-0xc01f mem 0xd0500000-0xd051ffff,0xd0520000-0xd0523fff irq 18 at device 0.0 on pci3
                em2: Using an MSI interrupt
                em2: Ethernet address: 00:e0:67:05:24:42
                em2: netmap queues/slots: TX 1/1024, RX 1/1024
                pcib4: <ACPI PCI-PCI bridge> irq 19 at device 28.3 on pci0
                pcib4: [GIANT-LOCKED]
                pci4: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib4
                em3: <Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Connection 7.6.1-k> port 0xb000-0xb01f mem 0xd0400000-0xd041ffff,0xd0420000-0xd0423fff irq 19 at device 0.0 on pci4
                em3: Using an MSI interrupt
                em3: Ethernet address: 00:e0:67:05:24:43
                em3: netmap queues/slots: TX 1/1024, RX 1/1024

                Thank you for your informative help Gertjan - its appreciated!

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                  1-21Giggawatts
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                  And after a day - the issue is back... OK 2.4.4 it is then.

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                    perlenbacher
                    last edited by perlenbacher

                    Before flattening your install, update your system after selecting the latest Dev branch in the GUI.
                    It would only take 2 minutes.
                    2.5.0a may suit you better...
                    It is built on FreeBSD 12.1-STABLE

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                      1-21Giggawatts
                      last edited by 1-21Giggawatts

                      Good idea - i tried 2.5 last night but still having the same lockup / packetloss issues.

                      I have found a website that has an archive of older version, will roll back and find out if its actually my hardware thats stuffed.

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                        1-21Giggawatts
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                        got 2.4.3 running again now - lets see how it goes

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                          1-21Giggawatts
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                          In order to install snort had to update to 2.4.4(3) hoping that isnt where the issues started ;-/

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                            1-21Giggawatts
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                            Ok i have tried just about everything with this. I have come to the conclusion is most likely a hardware error. Still getting packetloss to the device on internal interface every few hours for around 5 seconds.

                            I have connected the switch directly to my Cisco switch rather than use the conduit cables in the wall to eliminate those - changed all cables. Changed the switchport in the Cisco switch - no errors on ports. Tested with all of the available interfaces in my device em0,1,2,3. When the error occurs I dont drop packets to any other devices connected on same vlan on the Cisco switch - its only the firewall. I am running a yanling n10 plus device, 4 nics and

                            I thought perhaps it could be a BSD issue - so i installed HP's ClearOS 7.6.0 to compare which runs on a linux kernel - but the problem is still there. I have installed Pfsense 2.4.3 2.4.4 and 2.4.5 - I also tried OPNsense 20.1 which runs on a more recent version of BSD too, nothing has fixed this problem yet.

                            I guess the only other issue is to change the internal IP just in case something on my network is trying trying to use that IP occasionally - although i would expect to see a macflap alert on my switch log if that were the case..

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                              1-21Giggawatts
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                              Last throw of the dice - I decided to try IPFire - I still really wanted something that incorporated inline IPS and that I could use my snort VRT subscription with.

                              Downloaded v2.25 last night - installed and its still going strong. Got through my morning MS Teams meeting with 0 packetloss. Running a ping test to internal interface for around 8 hours so far and it hasnt dropped a beat. Fantastic!

                              The firewall is not as intuitive or as fully featured as pfsense - the GUI is fairly archaic looking - however it seems quick and most importantly for me - stable with my hardware!

                              A pity that Pfsense stopped working for me - perhaps I will try the next major release - but until then I will just stick with IPFire

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                                1-21Giggawatts @jimp
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                                @jimp Looks like the issue may have been some BSD driver for my hardware - im assuming the <Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Connection 7.6.1-k>?

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                                  fezster
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                                  Identical issue here! (And quite a few of us it seems).

                                  See my thread here: https://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php/topic,24600.60.html

                                  Ive been running OPNSense 20.1 (FreeBSD 11.2) for almost a week without issue. No packet loss, no high ping etc.

                                  I found this thread when searching for whether PfSense 2.4.4-p3 (also based on FreeBSD 11.2) would resolve the issue - did you ever try this?

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                                    1-21Giggawatts
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                                    Yep I ran version 2.4.4(3) and 2.3.4 same problems - also tried version 20.1 OPNsense same issue. Ive been running IPFire 2.25 for over a week now with zero issues (other than suricata does not parse the snort VRT ruleset very well)

                                    Perhaps when thewy release a new version of pfsense i will take a look but I just want a stable firewall with inline IPS capabilities - so IPFire is doing that for me now.

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                                      fezster
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                                      Resolved by putting unbound into DNS forward mode, instead of resolver.

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