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      ncm-com
      last edited by ncm-com

      Many thanks
      You can not place the same vlan on 2 different interfaces in pfsense.. You can't.. You could create a bridge or lag if you want 2 different physical interfaces to be in the same vlan.

      So I think I have to create a LAGG in order to sent traffic through both interfaces? any idea how to do this? I guess I have to create the firewall rules as I can't add the existing VLAN to a new LAGG interface

      Thee would be be zero point to creating multiple vnics in esxi and handing them to pfsense and putting them in the same vlan..
      there are physical switches connecting outside the esxi so it would be an advantage to untag/tagged traffic to another port

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        JKnott @johnpoz
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        @johnpoz said in VLAN tag on more than 1 interface:

        You can not place the same vlan on 2 different interfaces in pfsense.. You can't..

        You can place the same VLAN number on more than one interface. I just did that. I created VLAN 3 on my WAN interface, which I already had on my LAN interface.

        bge0.3: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> metric 0 mtu 1500
        options=80003<RXCSUM,TXCSUM,LINKSTATE>
        ether 00:16:17:a7:f2:d3
        inet6 fe80::216:17ff:fea7:f2d3%bge0.3 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x8

        re0.3: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> metric 0 mtu 1500
        options=80003<RXCSUM,TXCSUM,LINKSTATE>
        ether 00:14:d1:2b:ed:ea
        inet6 fe80::214:d1ff:fe2b:edea%re0.3 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0xa

        PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
        i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
        UniFi AC-Lite access point

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          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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          @ncm-com said in VLAN tag on more than 1 interface:

          So I think I have to create a LAGG in order to sent traffic through both interfaces?

          Why do you want to send traffic through 2 virtual interfaces that are the same network - that serves no purpose...

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            JKnott @ncm-com
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            @ncm-com said in VLAN tag on more than 1 interface:

            So I think I have to create a LAGG in order to sent traffic through both interfaces? any idea how to do this? I guess I have to create the firewall rules as I can't add the existing VPAN in this case?

            Perhaps you'd better describe what exactly you want to do.

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              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
              last edited by johnpoz

              @JKnott said in VLAN tag on more than 1 interface:

              just did that. I created VLAN 3 on my WAN interface, which I already had on my LAN interface.

              That is not the same vlan... that is the same vlan ID.. Not the same vlan.. And even if pfsense doesn't stop you from doing that.. Its a horrible IDEA..

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                JKnott @johnpoz
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                @johnpoz

                Yes, I am aware of that and know there is no data connection between them, unless set up in routing. However, the way you wrote what you said left the question open. Regardless, we still need to find out what he wants to do. Earlier on, I got the impression he wanted VLANs on more that one interface, which is certainly possible, even with the same VLAN ID.

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                  ncm-com @johnpoz
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                  @johnpoz
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                  Please see the above scenario,

                  I can use LAN1 interface goes to VLAN switch and LAN2 interface to the non-manage switch so the bandwidth will use both interfaces?

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                    JKnott @ncm-com
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                    @ncm-com

                    So, you want the unmanaged switch to be on VLAN 20? If so, then you'd have to create a bridge between LAN 1 & LAN 2. However, the better way would be to just configure a port for VLAN 20 on the managed switch, which would then connect to the unmanaged one.

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                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                      last edited by johnpoz

                      @ncm-com said in VLAN tag on more than 1 interface:

                      so the bandwidth will use both interfaces?

                      But your pfsense is virtual... You handle the physical interfaces in esxi... let it do the tagging.. All pfsense needs to know is that its the "lan" and on vnic x

                      vmx is internal and would be 10ge interface to pfsense..

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                        JKnott @johnpoz
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                        @johnpoz said in VLAN tag on more than 1 interface:

                        But your pfsense is virtual...

                        Forgot about that.

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                          ncm-com @johnpoz
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                          @johnpoz
                          I actually connect them to physical adaptors from the esxi
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                          they are gigabit interfaces

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                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                            Also what is the bandwidth getting you? Is where this traffic going more than 1 gig? Your wan, multiple other vlans?

                            Traffic between devices on the same network traffic doesn't even flow through pfsense... So why do you think you need more bandwidth and more than 1 connection into pfsense to leverage that more bandwidth?

                            Connect both of the physical nics to the same vswitch/port group..

                            This makes ZERO sense to setup..

                            makesnosense.jpg

                            What exactly do you think that accomplishes???

                            Connect your physical nics to same vswitch, and then break out your different vlans via port groups.

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                              ncm-com @johnpoz
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                              @johnpoz
                              the pfsense is a VM on the host, and I'm trying to send traffic out to different physical adaptors let say vmnic 2 and vmnic 3

                              Connect both of the physical nics to the same vswitch/port group..
                              I tried the above but no luck

                              I got it, I could untag VLAN 20 using the Vswitch connected to the vmnic2,

                              but let say if the traffic between VLANs reaching 500mbps it will create a bottleneck on one interface that would not be the case if the traffic using two ports?

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                                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                                @ncm-com said in VLAN tag on more than 1 interface:

                                and I'm trying to send traffic out to different physical adaptors let say vmnic 2 and vmnic 3

                                For what purpose? The connect vmnic2 and 3 to the same vswitch and setup whatever load balancing or load sharing you want in esxi..

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                                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @ncm-com
                                  last edited by johnpoz

                                  @ncm-com said in VLAN tag on more than 1 interface:

                                  but let say if the traffic between VLANs reaching 500mbps it will create a bottleneck on one interface that would not be the case if the traffic using two ports?

                                  And how does putting 2 interfaces in the same vlan solve that problem?

                                  but let say if the traffic between VLANs reaching 500mbps it will create a bottleneck on one interface that would not be the case if the traffic using two ports?

                                  Use different uplinks for your difrerent vlans.. vmnic 2 vlan X, vmnic 3 vlan Y... Putting vlan X on both vmnic 2 and 3 does what?? Put all your vmnics into same vswitch.. Use your port groups to break out the vlans. setup lagg of these 4 nics to your switch from esxi

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