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    Sticky connections not working with dual WAN

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    • TheCableGuy96T
      TheCableGuy96 @johnpoz
      last edited by

      @johnpoz I don't deny my upload is undersized of for my needs... it's the best i can get at the moment though until they upgrade the infrastructure around here. It has many other advantages though such as redundancy.

      Hopefully one of the people you tagged can chip in :)

      I do appreciate all the help so far... thanks pal!

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      • johnpozJ
        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
        last edited by johnpoz

        Sure failover I get. but that wouldn't need to be a in load balancing setup to do that ;) heheh

        What I would suggest is try and validate if this other connection is being created after original state is closed.. You could just sniff on your client.. Do you see or send a fin at any time?

        And that is when the wan changes.

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        • TheCableGuy96T
          TheCableGuy96 @johnpoz
          last edited by

          It's getting a bit above me this now which is why I was hoping I could let you teamviewer in and maybe take a look?

          You'd have all the answers in 5 minutes rather than going back and forth through this monkey ;)

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            netblues @TheCableGuy96
            last edited by

            @Daskew78 You shouldnt really care about states being closed when you have a stickiness of 1200.

            As documentation says, if you have stickiness 0, then load balancing path is re evaluated when connectios are closed. (and we could discuss if this means fin wait etc)
            But stickiness of 1200 Means 1200 seconds AFTER connections is closed, if a new request comes from the same ip to the same host it will leave from the same gateway.

            I insist. stickiness works fine on multiwan ssl load balancing scenario.
            And consider this workaround too
            https://redmine.pfsense.org/issues/6025

            quoting
            Also of note, when the weights differ, even though the gateways have a specific order with repetition in the rule, pf seems to still flip back and forth, though the general ratio of the weights is respected. For example with WAN1=3, WAN2=2:

            I had the same issues as you do until I made 2 the default weight on both load balancing connections.

            Deeper issues are suspected, as redmine says.
            Please consider testing the workaround.

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            • johnpozJ
              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
              last edited by

              Yeah sure seems that issue is exactly what your seeing... I would do what @netblues says and that should fix up your issue I would hope.

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              • TheCableGuy96T
                TheCableGuy96
                last edited by

                @netblues @johnpoz

                Thanks guys... I've had a read through but it's all a little confusing to me.

                Can you just clarify you are suggesting setting both connections to "Tier 2" instead of "Tier 1" on the LoadBalancing profile?

                Cheers.

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                • johnpozJ
                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                  last edited by

                  Yup..

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                  • TheCableGuy96T
                    TheCableGuy96
                    last edited by

                    Well if that's the case it is a bug then. But at least there appears to be a workaround.

                    I'll test it now, cheers again :)

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                      netblues @TheCableGuy96
                      last edited by

                      @Daskew78 nope
                      We suggest to put a weight of 2 on both gateways and load balance them as both tier 1.
                      with a stickiness of 2500

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                      • johnpozJ
                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                        last edited by johnpoz

                        As you see yes there is a redmine on it ;)

                        Currently targeted at 2.5 - but its been pushed many times already.. So wouldn't expect... This thread could get added to that redmine I would think.. Might put a bit more weight on looking into it.

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                        • TheCableGuy96T
                          TheCableGuy96
                          last edited by

                          Sorry I spoke a little too soon.... should I also set the sticky connections back to "0"?

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                            netblues @TheCableGuy96
                            last edited by netblues

                            @Daskew78 NO, it won't work on web banking sites

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                            • TheCableGuy96T
                              TheCableGuy96
                              last edited by

                              Sorry I was replying too fast and missed your update about setting the states to 2500.

                              I have set it to 2500 and set each gateway to Tier 1 but I can't see where I set a weight of 2? Where is the weight setting?

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                              • RicoR
                                Rico LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance
                                last edited by

                                System > Routing > Edit Gateway > Display Advanced > Weight

                                -Rico

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                                • TheCableGuy96T
                                  TheCableGuy96
                                  last edited by

                                  ahhh thank you.... i'm testing now... will update shortly :)

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                                    netblues
                                    last edited by

                                    Remember to clear states and source tracking.

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                                    • TheCableGuy96T
                                      TheCableGuy96
                                      last edited by

                                      Yeah I cleared both, closed all browsers and tried again on 2 personal servers with single IPs and banking but it's still happening.

                                      I must admit it doesn't seem to be happening as much but it is still happening.

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                                        netblues
                                        last edited by

                                        I also see that you have default gateway on a load balancing group.
                                        Try to put default gateway to a failover group, (or just one of the lines).

                                        It is not recommended to do that.

                                        Also, for debug purposes, make a policy routing just for https and put it ahead of general load balancing rule, and redirect traffic to another load balancer (with the same members)
                                        So as to make sure https traffic is not mixed with anything else and retest.

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                                        • TheCableGuy96T
                                          TheCableGuy96
                                          last edited by

                                          Okay i'll have to get back to you tomorrow as I have to go out now.

                                          Thanks buddy :)

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                                          • TheCableGuy96T
                                            TheCableGuy96
                                            last edited by

                                            @netblues Sorry for the delay I was busy yesterday...

                                            I just want to check we are on the same page here:
                                            "I also see that you have default gateway on a load balancing group. Try to put default gateway to a failover group, (or just one of the lines)."

                                            Are you referring to the firewall rules defining the gateway for each vLAN or the section in "System > Routing > Default Gateway"?

                                            Also, I'm sorry but I don't understand what you mean when you say:
                                            "Also, for debug purposes, make a policy routing just for https and put it ahead of general load balancing rule, and redirect traffic to another load balancer (with the same members)"

                                            Please could you elaborate a little more what you are suggesting?

                                            Many thanks pal :)

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