Multi-WAN gateway failover not switching back to tier 1 gw after back online
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@nleaudio said in Multi-WAN gateway failover not switching back to tier 1 gw after back online:
As far as I know, this is still problematic! Some PFSense boxes I have on dual-wan setups will switch from tier 1 to tier 2 connections without issue, but going back when the tier 1 is restored does not always work... At least not in the timeframe I would consider usable.
Bob
i think i had those issues because i imported a configuration to different hardware. Did you do the same?
After i did a reset to defaults and set up everything again it is now switching back fine. -
@mo10 to be clear... in your dual-WAN setup, if WAN1 (default gateway) goes down and pfsense ends up making WAN2 the default, then upon recovery of WAN1, pfsense automatically marks WAN1 as default?
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@ibbetsion
This was never a problem for me. It maked the gateway as default fine but still was sending traffic the wrong way. Saving an interface fixed it until i unplugged (physically) a cable again.
Now after resetting everything everything runs as expected.Do you have problems with Multi-Wan? What exactly?
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@mo10 my problem is that post recovery, WAN1 never goes back to being default. I have to use a script to bring down WAN2 so that WAN1 becomes default again. Not an ideal solution but it works.
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@ibbetsion
Would you be able to make a test an reset you pfsense (save configuration first) and just setup the multi-wan an try again?
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Hello!
Assuming a pretty standard multiwan: WAN1 -> tier1, WAN2 -> tier2, PREFWAN1/PREFWAN2/BALANCE gwgroups.
Whether you have states left open on WAN2 after WAN1 comes back up (sticky connections?) , or the default in the system routing table doesnt switch back to WAN1 after it recovers (make sure you dont have BALANCE as the default gateway), I believe the best approach is to policy route everything.
After WAN1 comes back, does traffic routed to a PREFWAN1 gwgroup still go out WAN2?
John
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Yes, it's quite possible that I moved the config to a new box.
And yes, when WAN1 comes back, new connections still go out WAN2.
It does appear to recover some time later though - maybe by the following day? I've not looked into it carefully.
Bob
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Are you using DHCP on the WANs or what are you using?
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I have what looks like the same problem. Gateway group with three gateways. When the tier1 goes down (packet loss) tier2 is used. When tier1 comes back, it does not get used and requires manual reconfigure or reboot. No changes I'm aware of to trigger this behaviour. No hints in the logs.
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@idiotzoo
Are you using DHCP on the WANs or what are you using on each WAN?
Please don't use DHCP, use static instead an report back. Set your main WAN as upstream Gateway. -
@mo10 The tier2 link us using PPPoE, correct me if I'm wrong but I can't use PPPoE with static IPv4 config.
I'm not sure what you mean by "Set your main WAN as upstream Gateway".
The main WAN link is static. This is a WISP link with a local NAT gateway connected via a vlan, so the physical link never goes down from PFsense point of view. The gateway (a ubiquti radio) also is no use as indicator of the connection health so I have to ping to something and use packet loss to determine the link's state.
This was working. The only change is the tier3 link appears to have failed entirely, so this is sitting in a pending state. I'm wondering if this is causing the gateway group to behave incorrectly. Next time the issue occurs I'll remove it and see what happens.
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This sounds like a setup Error (pending). Do as you say, delete tier 3 from group an delete tier 3 interface. Then add everything again.
I was asking about DHCP because this was the reason I had problems. I heared dual pppoe can cause problems as well but I am not sure.
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@mo10 Someone on site has verified the tier3 connection is borked at layer1 so removing that isn't going to hurt anything. Certainly having a dead link on a lower priority (higher tier) shouldn't cause any issues with the gateway group behaviour and if it does, this is a bug.... but it would be nice to know why a functioning system has stopped working. As this line failure is the only change I'm hopeful that at least explains the issue.
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i have found out that there are really strange problems when unplugging and replugging a cable on any wan-port while using DHCP on it.
So maybe you can reproduce your problem by physically unplugging and replugging on your interfaces.
What helped me without needing to reboot: just hit save on any interface.
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I removed the failed wan link from the gateway group, no difference. I've now disabled that interface entirely, still doesn't work.
I'm at a bit of a loss.
Anybody know if there's any debugging I can look at? Right now I only know there's a problem if the users tell me. The gateways all look fine, it just doesn't switch back to the tier1 as it should.
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@idiotzoo said in Multi-WAN gateway failover not switching back to tier 1 gw after back online:
I have what looks like the same problem. Gateway group with three gateways. When the tier1 goes down (packet loss) tier2 is used. When tier1 comes back, it does not get used and requires manual reconfigure or reboot. No changes I'm aware of to trigger this behaviour. No hints in the logs.
Hello!
What gateway group (failover/loadbalance) are you using as the Default Gateway on System -> Routing -> Gateways?
What gateway group(s) are you using for all your rules with outbound WAN traffic?
John
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@serbus sorry for the delay in replying.
The system default is wan1 (the fast wan link)
Outbound traffic with a source on the LAN is using a gateway group called office_internet with the wan1 as tier1 and a slower PPPoE ADSL link as tier2. -
I've got this issue at a client's office.
If I set a 2 tier gateway group as default gateway for IPv4, on failure of tier 1, tier 2 takes over but doesn't switch back to tier 1 on tier 1 recovery (confirmed on gateway status page). This doesn't happen eve after waiting for an hour.
Interestingly, if I set default gateway to the tier 1 link (which then works as expected) and back to the gateway group, the group is still stuck at tier 2.
This is the same with 'member down' and 'packet loss' options. Tier 1 is PPPoE with dynamic gateway (if that makes a difference).
One thing that may be relevant is that both tier 1 and tier 2 have the same gateway IP. Tier 1 is PPPoE over VDSL, tier 2 is L2TP to the same ISP.
pfSense seems to fail to create correct default routes after fails and I'm often left with no default route despite having working gateways set and active. I need to disable and re-enable the interface to bring it back.
Is this a PPPoE thing?
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@basicmonkey said in Multi-WAN gateway failover not switching back to tier 1 gw after back online:
working gateways set and active. I need to disable and re-enable the interface to bring it back.
IsYou might be on to something with it being a ppp connection. The tier2 gateway on my network used to be via second router, now it’s pppoe from pfsense. That’s probably when it stopped working.
I’m still convinced this is a bug and pfsense is broke.
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I’m still convinced this is a bug and pfsense is broke.
You are correct. The odd thing is that it sometimes works. I've told it to drop states when there is a change, which definitely is a prerequisite, but it sometimes does go back to the tier 1 gateway. I really wish this would get fixed, it's one of the big advantages PFSense has (if it worked right!)
Bob
