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    • johnpozJ
      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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      I would take a look at this
      https://community.openvpn.net/openvpn/wiki/Gigabit_Networks_Linux

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        spyder0552 @johnpoz
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        @johnpoz
        Thanks, I did read this but going to go over again to see if I missed something.
        I know it talks about jumbo frames....will try that and let everyone know what i find.

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        • RicoR
          Rico LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance
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          Pls run those two via the command line or SSH and post the output here

          openvpn --genkey --secret /tmp/secret
          time openvpn --test-crypto --secret /tmp/secret --verb 0 --tun-mtu 20000 --cipher aes-128-gcm
          

          -Rico

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            spyder0552 @Rico
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            @Rico

            [2.4.5-RELEASE][admin@pfSense.seradex.local]/root: openvpn --genkey --secret /tm p/secret
            [2.4.5-RELEASE][admin@pfSense.seradex.local]/root: time openvpn --test-crypto -- secret /tmp/secret --verb 0 --tun-mtu 20000 --cipher aes-128-gcm
            Fri Jun 19 14:47:16 2020 disabling NCP mode (--ncp-disable) because not in P2MP client or server mode
            10.007u 0.000s 0:10.00 100.0% 843+177k 0+0io 0pf+0w
            [2.4.5-RELEASE][admin@pfSense.seradex.local]/root:

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              spyder0552 @spyder0552
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              @spyder0552
              Also just did a test one using UDP and setting the tunnel size to 9000....but still same results

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              • RicoR
                Rico LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance
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                Hmm with this output I'd expect more than ~165 Mbps but you will never get to 1 Gbps with this CPU and OpenVPN, not even close.
                Run again your iperf via the tunnel and check top -aSH - does the OpenVPN process run close to 100%?
                Also for testing try with Encryption Algorithm set to None and try iperf via the tunnel again.

                -Rico

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                  spyder0552 @Rico
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                  @Rico
                  From what I see, no where near any cpu usage
                  Top.png

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                    spyder0552 @spyder0552
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                    @spyder0552
                    Back on this again now. Anyone have suggestions?
                    This is all on the same network using Cat6 cables. Just testing from a laptop to the wall to a device on the other side.
                    No VPN - Speed is fantastic.
                    OpenVPN tunnel - speed is pathetic.

                    Any help would be appreciated before I have to dump this and look to another solution. I just can't believe that OpenVPN can't handle at least 400-600 Mbs.

                    Thanks all.

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                    • RicoR
                      Rico LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance
                      last edited by

                      Did you try with Encryption Algorithm set to None for testing?
                      If you really aim for highspeed VPN traffic I think you need to try with IPsec. 😐

                      -Rico

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                      • johnpozJ
                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                        I'm about ready to head out - but I I want to try and see what my 4860 can do via this local sort of testing.. If find some time will do a local only test..

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                          spyder0552 @johnpoz
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                          @johnpoz
                          Hi all.
                          So, still having the same issue. I have now setup a home lab and get the exact same results.
                          Test Lab:
                          Intel i5 with 32Gb Ram.
                          Using Windows HyperV as the host.
                          Pfsense and Windows10 as guest machines.

                          Test 1 = laptop -> Firewall -> Windows 10
                          Get ~900 Mb/s

                          Test 2 = Laptop with OpenVP -> Firewall -> Windows 10
                          Get ~ 170 Mb/s

                          This is the same results I am seeing at my office using Dell R610 with 24 CPU Xenon's.

                          Things I have tried:

                          1. Enable/disable the network options Hardware TCP Seg and Large Receive Offload (check box set to disable them).
                          2. Enable fast I/O (with it turned off, I go down to ~155-160)...so currently enabled.
                          3. Snd/rcv buffers. Tried default and 2Mb. No significant change.
                          4. Encryption at AES-128-CBC and GCM. No significant change.

                          So for anyone that wants to setup my test enviroment:

                          1. Just setup a HyperV box.
                          2. Add 2 virtual switches (one external and one internal).
                          3. Create a VM for Pfsense and give it both virtual switches (WAN = External, LAN = Internal switch).
                          4. Create a VM for a test box
                          5. Put Iperf on the test box
                          6. Create your PFsense with default OpenVPN (using TLS). Just run through the wizard.

                          I am sure if someone did this they would get to the same spot I am where the speed is just no where at what it should be capable of.
                          You can rule the hardware out to some extent as testing without the VPN shows near full speed (meaning the nics are talking to each other properly).

                          Anyone willing to try my test?

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                            spyder0552 @Rico
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                            @Rico
                            Hey, just replied below. Yes, I did try that on Friday and it did not make a difference.

                            Is anyone out there trying this with Windows 10 clients? Perhaps this is a windows issue?

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                            • PippinP
                              Pippin
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                              @spyder0552 said in OpenVPN Slow - local network test:

                              [2.4.5-RELEASE][admin@pfSense.seradex.local]/root: openvpn --genkey --secret /tm p/secret
                              [2.4.5-RELEASE][admin@pfSense.seradex.local]/root: time openvpn --test-crypto -- secret /tmp/secret --verb 0 --tun-mtu 20000 --cipher aes-128-gcm
                              Fri Jun 19 14:47:16 2020 disabling NCP mode (--ncp-disable) because not in P2MP client or server mode
                              10.007u 0.000s 0:10.00 100.0% 843+177k 0+0io 0pf+0w
                              [2.4.5-RELEASE][admin@pfSense.seradex.local]/root:

                              By the looks of that ^^^ it theoretically could do ~320Mbps

                              How about testing both ways? (client>server - server>client)
                              Which I5 is that?

                              Your top -aSH screenshot is timed wrong, ..... I guess.

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                                spyder0552 @Pippin
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                                @Pippin
                                Home test lab is i5-4690K (yeah..little dated...best I can get atm).

                                I can't really get it to test from the inside out. The wall seems to be blocking it out. I guess the IP I would connect to would be the end point of the tunel...but not working it seems.

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                                • PippinP
                                  Pippin
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                                  You can reverse test mode by using iperf3 -R
                                  "-R, Reverse test mode – Server sends, client receives"

                                  I gloomily came to the ironic conclusion that if you take a highly intelligent person and give them the best possible, elite education, then you will most likely wind up with an academic who is completely impervious to reality.
                                  Halton Arp

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                                    spyder0552 @Pippin
                                    last edited by spyder0552

                                    @Pippin
                                    WOW...actually slower in reverse. Averaged only 100 Mb/s

                                    But if I drop the VPN and just go through the firewall, it goes up to 900

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                                      spyder0552 @spyder0552
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                                      @spyder0552
                                      Just to show the config on the client/server side
                                      Client:
                                      dev tun
                                      persist-tun
                                      persist-key
                                      cipher AES-128-GCM
                                      ncp-ciphers AES-128-GCM
                                      auth SHA256
                                      tls-client
                                      client
                                      resolv-retry infinite
                                      remote 192.168.2.98 1194 udp4
                                      verify-x509-name "OpenVPN-Server-Cert" name
                                      auth-user-pass
                                      pkcs12 pfSense-UDP4-1194-vpn.p12
                                      tls-crypt pfSense-UDP4-1194-vpn-tls.key
                                      remote-cert-tls server

                                      Server:
                                      dev ovpns1
                                      verb 1
                                      dev-type tun
                                      dev-node /dev/tun1
                                      writepid /var/run/openvpn_server1.pid
                                      #user nobody
                                      #group nobody
                                      script-security 3
                                      daemon
                                      keepalive 10 60
                                      ping-timer-rem
                                      persist-tun
                                      persist-key
                                      proto udp4
                                      cipher AES-128-GCM
                                      auth SHA256
                                      up /usr/local/sbin/ovpn-linkup
                                      down /usr/local/sbin/ovpn-linkdown
                                      client-connect /usr/local/sbin/openvpn.attributes.sh
                                      client-disconnect /usr/local/sbin/openvpn.attributes.sh
                                      local 192.168.2.98
                                      tls-server
                                      server 192.168.99.0 255.255.255.0
                                      client-config-dir /var/etc/openvpn-csc/server1
                                      username-as-common-name
                                      plugin /usr/local/lib/openvpn/plugins/openvpn-plugin-auth-script.so /usr/local/sbin/ovpn_auth_verify_async user TG9jYWwgRGF0YWJhc2U= false server1 1194
                                      tls-verify "/usr/local/sbin/ovpn_auth_verify tls 'OpenVPN-Server-Cert' 1"
                                      lport 1194
                                      management /var/etc/openvpn/server1.sock unix
                                      push "route 192.168.1.0 255.255.255.0"
                                      push "dhcp-option DOMAIN test.local"
                                      push "dhcp-option DNS 8.8.8.8"
                                      client-to-client
                                      ca /var/etc/openvpn/server1.ca
                                      cert /var/etc/openvpn/server1.cert
                                      key /var/etc/openvpn/server1.key
                                      dh /etc/dh-parameters.2048
                                      tls-crypt /var/etc/openvpn/server1.tls-crypt
                                      ncp-ciphers AES-128-GCM
                                      persist-remote-ip
                                      float
                                      topology subnet
                                      fast-io

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                                      • johnpozJ
                                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @spyder0552
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                                        @spyder0552 said in OpenVPN Slow - local network test:

                                        Just setup a HyperV box.

                                        That doesn't seem like a legit test.. My test will be this

                                        windows 10 PC --- sg4860--- NAS

                                        Will set this up later.. But you don't show any of the mtu settings or txqueuelen..

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                                        • johnpozJ
                                          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                          last edited by johnpoz

                                          Ok I just set this up...

                                          With default everything on open seeing..

                                          $ iperf3 -c 192.168.9.10
                                          warning: Ignoring nonsense TCP MSS 334848
                                          Connecting to host 192.168.9.10, port 5201
                                          [  5] local 10.0.100.2 port 52251 connected to 192.168.9.10 port 5201
                                          [ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bitrate
                                          [  5]   0.00-1.00   sec  25.5 MBytes   214 Mbits/sec
                                          [  5]   1.00-2.00   sec  29.5 MBytes   248 Mbits/sec
                                          [  5]   2.00-3.00   sec  32.4 MBytes   272 Mbits/sec
                                          [  5]   3.00-4.00   sec  31.1 MBytes   261 Mbits/sec
                                          [  5]   4.00-5.00   sec  29.5 MBytes   247 Mbits/sec
                                          [  5]   5.00-6.00   sec  30.8 MBytes   258 Mbits/sec
                                          [  5]   6.00-7.00   sec  30.6 MBytes   257 Mbits/sec
                                          [  5]   7.00-8.00   sec  31.6 MBytes   265 Mbits/sec
                                          [  5]   8.00-9.00   sec  31.0 MBytes   260 Mbits/sec
                                          [  5]   9.00-10.00  sec  32.0 MBytes   268 Mbits/sec
                                          - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
                                          [ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bitrate
                                          [  5]   0.00-10.00  sec   304 MBytes   255 Mbits/sec                  sender
                                          [  5]   0.00-10.01  sec   304 MBytes   255 Mbits/sec                  receiver
                                          

                                          Let me see if can tweak that a bit..

                                          win10 pc (192.168.200.10) --- switch - 192.168.200.1 (test igb4) pfsense (sg4860) ( igb0 lan) 192.168.9.253 -- switch -- 192.168.9.10 (NAS)

                                          Tweaking didn't make much difference to be honest, but using aes-128-gcm vs cbc was huge difference.. When changed to cbc vs gcm when to 130 vs mid 200's

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                                            spyder0552 @johnpoz
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                                            @johnpoz
                                            Thanks for doing the testing.
                                            I am surprised to see that the best we can get on a full 1Gb/s link is ~250 Mb/s
                                            So I guess my ~150Mb/s on the first crack is not horrible?

                                            I know there is overhead to deal with...just surprised it is so much. This is looking like a 70% loss of speed using OpenVpn.
                                            Is this what others are seeing as well?

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