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    Qinn
    last edited by Qinn Aug 7, 2020, 3:06 PM Aug 7, 2020, 3:05 PM

    There is no cpu/board temperature measurement on the Unifi AP's?

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      Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
      last edited by Aug 7, 2020, 3:08 PM

      Maybe ask Ubiquiti?

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        Qinn @Derelict
        last edited by Aug 8, 2020, 9:21 AM

        @Derelict Your absolutely right, as this is a Netgate forum, so I posted it

        https://community.ui.com/questions/No-temperature-monitoring-on-UAP/a48836fd-9410-4203-becb-fc3734658f22

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          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
          last edited by johnpoz Aug 8, 2020, 11:07 AM Aug 8, 2020, 11:05 AM

          Kind of hard to show temp without temp sensors. I do not believe there are any sensors in the AP, this question has come up before over on their forums. Which is actually kind of funny, since they actually sell a temp sensor ;)

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            Qinn
            last edited by Qinn Aug 8, 2020, 12:36 PM Aug 8, 2020, 12:33 PM

            As there datasheet says mentions it operates between -10 t 70 degrees Celsius or 14 to 158 degrees Fahrenheit, then even operating in death valley would be no problem ;)

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              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
              last edited by Aug 8, 2020, 12:37 PM

              Not sure what that has to do with measurement of the actual cpu/board temperature?

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                Qinn
                last edited by Aug 8, 2020, 2:59 PM

                The UAP has only passive cooling and it's mounted in many cases against the ceiling, so probably the warmest/hottest part of the room. So it can only loose heat when there is a temperature difference between board/cpu and the room it's in, so that's why I guess is mentioned.

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                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                  last edited by Aug 8, 2020, 3:03 PM

                  Huh?? Was some stuff removed from this thread??

                  29 days later out of the blue asking about cpu/board temps on APs? Then from there jumping to they can operate in death valley?? WTF???

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                    Qinn
                    last edited by Aug 8, 2020, 3:57 PM

                    Not as far as I can see, here all messages are from 1 to 224.

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                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                      last edited by Aug 8, 2020, 4:00 PM

                      Then why all this nonsense about temps?? Just such a non-sequitur

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                        Qinn
                        last edited by Aug 8, 2020, 4:47 PM

                        non-sequitur and off topic you are right, but I was sincerely interested why these so complete AP's don't measure the temp, but I think it is best to leave it at that and no further pollute this nice thread </off-topic>

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                          Qinn
                          last edited by Sep 16, 2020, 1:28 PM

                          @johnpoz I just installed the 6.0.20 version op the controller and came upon Protected management frames (PMF ) and would like your opinion on these, and the settings that go along with it; "Optional
                          and Required".

                          Thanks.

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                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                            last edited by johnpoz Sep 16, 2020, 1:44 PM Sep 16, 2020, 1:36 PM

                            Guess depends on how tight your tinfoil hat is..

                            I would leave them disabled, its going to be a performance hit.

                            Do you have clients that support it? Can tell pretty much for a fact that no iot devices would support such a feature.

                            If your so worried about someone sniffing/messing with your management frames.. Then yeah you would want it.. And you would want to make sure all your clients support it before you do so you could "require" it.. Optional would mean some clients could use it and some clients might not - so what would be the point if your not going to do it for all clients..

                            I personally would just leave it disabled.. Really of little use in a home network. To meet some security audit for a corp setup - sure..

                            In a corp setup I would see it being required on say the trusted wireless network.. And say the guest network being disabled or optional. But in a home network where hey how come my wireless network speed is not 600Mbps -- I would just leave disabled... While sure it is a much improved security aspect for wireless.. Do you feel the nerd kid next door is trying to hack your wireless? Is your psk secure? etc..

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                              JeGr LAYER 8 Moderator
                              last edited by Sep 16, 2020, 1:51 PM

                              @johnpoz said in Seamless roaming:

                              Is your psk secure? etc..

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                                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                last edited by johnpoz Sep 16, 2020, 3:31 PM Sep 16, 2020, 3:12 PM

                                While I would love to get rid of PSK as well - and just use better eap auth (my trusted wifi network is eap-tls), or wpa3-personal, the problem is no iot devices support enterprise and don't see me replacing all my current iot devices with new iot at some future point when they support wpa3.. Which prob going to be a really long time anyway

                                So yeah your going to have to have atleast 1 ssid with wpa2-psk, and prob even more for your iot devices, and then 1 for guests..

                                the "psk" is going to be around for quite some time..

                                So all your clients support wpa3? Or all your devices support using wpa2-enterprise?

                                How is it your not using any psk?

                                edit: btw @Qinn 6.0.22 just came out ;)

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                                  mcury @johnpoz
                                  last edited by Sep 16, 2020, 3:35 PM

                                  @johnpoz I have it installed too.
                                  Already backing it up..

                                  [marcelo@linux Raspberry_Pi]$ rm buster.img
                                  [marcelo@linux Raspberry_Pi]$ sudo dd bs=4M if=/dev/sdc | gzip > buster.img.gz

                                  dead on arrival, nowhere to be found.

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                                    NogBadTheBad @mcury
                                    last edited by NogBadTheBad Sep 16, 2020, 3:50 PM Sep 16, 2020, 3:50 PM

                                    Argh I just updated to 6.0.20 it’s a right pile of crud.

                                    I have a subnet that has a wpapsk and wpaeap ssid , it created two networks rather than a single one to associate the ssid to.

                                    It also did the same with my IOT subnet that had a 2.4 & 5Ghz ssid and a 2.4 Ghz only ssid.

                                    The GUI is becoming a mess as well, think I may be looking at Cambium Networks in the future.

                                    Andy

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                                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                      last edited by johnpoz Sep 16, 2020, 3:53 PM Sep 16, 2020, 3:52 PM

                                      Yeah their new "beta" interface is a pile of crap currently ;) I really don't know what they are thinking to be honest.. Talk about making it difficult..

                                      I just continue to use the legacy interface..

                                      If you make any changes in the beta - you can for sure break shit.. I have toggled it on to look at, but don't ever make any setting changes in it..

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                                        Qinn @johnpoz
                                        last edited by Sep 16, 2020, 5:16 PM

                                        edit: btw @Qinn 6.0.22 just came out ;)

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                                        I see it on their site https://community.ui.com/releases, the check that's in the controller does not report that there is a new version.

                                        btw I am not surprised there is a update/fix a as there were ton's of complaints mostly people using VLAN, I had no problems (using 4 VLAN's)

                                        btw I have to wait to upgrade to 6.0.22, as I am using a Docker controller and that one did got bumped, yet ;)

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                                          mcury
                                          last edited by Sep 16, 2020, 6:12 PM

                                          Fw 5.36 is out too.

                                          dead on arrival, nowhere to be found.

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