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      DrPhil
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      I have my firewall rules set to force all DNS queries to be resolved by pfSense.

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      And on my general setup page, I have the DNS settings like below:

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      Given these two, I was expecting my clients to be forced to use OpenDNS. But that's not happening. They're still using the DNS supplied by my ISP. What am I doing wrong?

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        bcruze
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        read DNS leak prevention -1

        https://www.techhelpguides.com/2017/06/12/ultimate-pfsense-openvpn-guide/

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          DrPhil
          last edited by

          @bcruze, is it possible that you misread my "OpenDNS" reference as "OpenVPN"?

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          • Mr. WasteM
            Mr. Waste
            last edited by Mr. Waste

            Go to:
            Services/DNS Resolver/General Settings

            Down to:
            DNS Query Forwarding

            Make sure its checked to be sent to those custom dns servers.

            I would also add DNSSEC its important, read up on it. Check that too.

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              DrPhil
              last edited by DrPhil

              Thank you @Mr-Waste. That did it.

              I read up on DNSSEC also. The good news is that the "Enable DNSSEC Support" box was already checked by default on my installation.

              Bad news? Like most discussion topics about security, reading on DNSSEC makes me feel less secure about the world I live in. Anyway that's my problem. Thank you for the tip.

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                DrPhil
                last edited by

                Reading up a little more (as discussed on this thread)
                https://forum.netgate.com/topic/139771/setup-dns-over-tls-on-pfsense-2-4-4-p2-guide/11

                It seems like enabling DNSSEC when forwarding to known public DNS servers may be generally pointless.

                I am still going to keep the option checked, because I don't know enough. But I'll change that if someone acts confident and tells me to :-)

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                • GertjanG
                  Gertjan @DrPhil
                  last edited by

                  @DrPhil said in Can't seem to force OpenDNS:

                  reading on DNSSEC makes me feel less secure about the world I live in.

                  How so ?
                  When a DNS request is answered with the DNSSEC== Ok anwer, you know that that answer is certified (and not spoofed).
                  That should/could give you a 'more secure' feeling.

                  DNSSEC isn't about hiding DNS requests. It's about making sure the info retrieved is valid.
                  One that wants to hide something shouldn't use Internet at all ;)

                  Anyway.
                  Have a look at some of the discussions about DNSSEC and forwarder usage on this forum.
                  Surprise : these two are mutual exclusive.
                  So if you use a forwarder (you're forwarding to OpenDNS - OpenDNS is a resolver) you loose DNSSEC advantages.
                  Ok, if you fully trust OpenDNS - and you fully trust your ISP (the could be MITM your DNS requests ;) ), your good. If not, use a resolver (like unbound) that checks DNSSEC for you on your premisses, with a device you control - pfSense.
                  Note : you can 'check' the DNSSEC option when using the resolver as a forwards. The effect will be "null".

                  No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                  Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                    DrPhil @Gertjan
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                    @Gertjan

                    Completely off topic, but I think it's a personal / psychological thing. I remember once I was at University of Chicago. They had these parking ticket dispenser looking machines. I asked someone what those are for. They said if you're walking (especially alone after dark), and you sense some danger, you hit the red button on these boxes and the police will show up.

                    You could argue those boxes should make you feel safer. They had the opposite effect on me though. Because I was completely ignorant of the danger before.

                    Same way, I wasn't really aware that a fundamental gateway to the internet, the DNS service, is not really secure. All someone has to do is to poison the server I hit, and they control me. Reading about DNSSEC made me aware of that danger.

                    I felt more secure before, tucked under my blanket of ignorance.

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                    • johnpozJ
                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                      @DrPhil said in Can't seem to force OpenDNS:

                      I felt more secure before, tucked under my blanket of ignorance.

                      The world is happy/safe place - until you watch the news ;)

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