DNS filtering Church project
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@hmijares Agreed! In that case some open, honest, discussion at the dinner table will have a much greater positive result than a DNS server. I want you to be successful, really!
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@jwj If you want to discuss discuss the moral implications of this project we can take it somewhere else but I'm here to consult about the technical aspects of it.
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The problem with trying to filter phones is, they have no need of the wifi to surf the net.. Why would some kid bored in church not just use the phones data plan to surf whatever they want.
Are you trying to create a filtering service that works outside your network.. Say for example where the kids parents could select this dns filtering from their home network?
If so you are trying to reinvent the wheel - there are many a service you can already use that do this..
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@hmijares And the technical aspects of it are you are running uphill against the wind trying to use technology. Teen suicide and eating disorders based on an unhealthy body image are not technology issues.
I'm trying to help you not waste time and money. I do wish you the best. I will say this one last thing: Technology has never been a substitute for personal responsibility.
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@johnpoz This is more about filtering the content for 5 years old kids conected to their tablet 24X7 when they are at home. But we want to be the one who chose wich content. We are aware that from certain age they are smart enough to overcome any blocking.
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@johnpoz As you said there are many services that can do this but we want to do it ourself because we have very specific content that is not blocked by any paid service like certain YouTube channels wich promotes bulimia, suicide or those that are sexually suggestive without being pornographic. I am not going to name those channels in this way because it goes beyond the scope we want to deal with but I am sure you have seen the channels where some women perform vibrator or dildo performance tests without showing the device on camera. That kind of content is in YouTube and is legal because if you don't show the "thing" there is no problem for YouTube. That kind of content is what we want to block for children under 7 years old when they are using the wifi at home. There is nothing wrong with using a vibrator or dildo but there is a time in life for every experience.
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As much as I like to use pfSense everywhere I can
I'm going to suggest that this is not an application for which it's particularly well suited.Steve
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@stephenw10 Anything you can recomend?
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@hmijares said in DNS filtering Church project:
There is nothing wrong with using a vibrator or dildo but there is a time in life for every experience.
As the others write, this is really a thread mill fight...
The things described above will help reduce your chances of browsing the wrong content, but it’s definitely primarily a function of human character and a good education.
The pfSense can help a lot in prevention, but currently nothing provides a perfect solution.
At least I don’t know that,......... I say you wouldn’t have that kind of content on the web......if there was a perfect solution to this...Plus, with our new browser horror, we’re going in an even worse direction, like DOH (insanity)
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@DaddyGo This is exaclty what we are looking for to "reduce your chances of browsing the wrong content," you nail it
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I would start out looking at Pi-Hole which is designed specifically for this but at a small scale. It may not be suitable directly.
How many users do you expect at any one time? Do you need some sort of filtering so only members can access it?
Steve
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@DaddyGo And the fact that youtube is youtube. You can't really pick and chose. You get it all or get kids youtube if, and only if, you use that app. I think there is is more harm than good from trying to hide reality than from facing it squarely and developing the skills needed to exist in an imperfect world.
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@jwj I have to said again I'm not here to discuss the moral but the technical aspect of the project. Moral is out of the scope of this consultation. So I'm going to kindly ask you to stop repliying to my posts as you are no adding any value to the technical aspect. Thanks in advance!
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@hmijares Why can't you understand that you can't filter in the way you say you want to. Given that you must look to other ways to accomplish your objective.
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@hmijares said in DNS filtering Church project:
This is exaclty what we are looking for to "reduce your chances of browsing the wrong content," you nail it
I suggest you get into it and try pfSense (pfBlockerNG-devel + Unbound (DoT + DNSSEC) + CloudFlare 1.1.1.3 + good BLKs)
and we'll see....++++edit:
https://developers.cloudflare.com/1.1.1.1/1.1.1.1-for-families+++edit2:
possibly an external Pi-Hole on Raspbery as the primary but external DNS provider for pfSense
(note I don't like Pi-Hole)
but it's worth a try, at least we can discuss which is better ... -
Randomly chosen. This does seem to be buzz word compliant for what the OP wants.
https://www.safedns.com/en/safe-internet-for-nonprofits/
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@jwj Ok no problem in that but as an administrator you have to be able to separate you moral from the technical aspects of a question. I think this forum is for techical aspects of pfsense am I right? Your personal opinion about the moral aspects is not relevant and if you are an administrator you sould know that. I guess you job is to moderate about tech not philosophy.
Have a good day and get yourself together bro if you want to moderte you need to separate your beliefs from your knowledge.
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@DaddyGo I'll try thanks all for you kindness have a good day
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@jwj said in DNS filtering Church project:
Randomly chosen. This does seem to be buzz word compliant for what the OP wants.
A lot of people and company do that, but it’s always suspicious to me because that’s when your DNS flows through them.
I like to be relatively independent....Think of the AVAST scandal = the "real website feature "and sold the collected IPs
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@hmijares said in DNS filtering Church project:
I'll try thanks all for you kindness have a good day
It was an interesting conversation, we look forward to seeing the results again if you feel like ...
Have a good day.
