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    New install- no DHCP assignments after PC sleeping

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      bill1
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      the time wasnt right from the beginning. Probably had it set for west coast by accident. It made understanding the log more difficult.
      The issue, as I am trying to understand it is that my office PC's somehow loose their DHCP settings while sleeping. Or maybe they loose it when they wake up. But when they do wake up, sometimes, the DHCP config is gone. The message indicates an unknown network connected but with the 69... ip .
      I tried ipconfig /release and also ipconfig /renew, but nothing. I did not see these requests in the DHCP service log. Restarting the DHCP service works, but its a pia. To me, this indicates that its probably not a bad switch or cable. What do you think?

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      • GertjanG
        Gertjan
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        Devices, like PC or anything else, can go to power down mode.If the NIC is also powered down, any IP address info will be lost upon re activation.
        At the moment, the DHCP client on the device will start a classic IP request.
        We all have device that goto sleep ion our networks. It's quiet common these days. Waking them up will update it's network settings.

        I just tried it with a PC next to me.

        I activated the sleep mode. Waited 10 seconds, and moved the mouse. The PC woke up, and I saw the DHCP request in the DHCP, logs.

        What I saw was a pait of DCPINFORM and DHCPACK right before it went to sleep mode.
        After it woke up, and identical DCPINFORM and DHCPACK pair showed up in the logs.

        I guess the DHCP server will not 'stop' or 'break' if some device goes into sleep mode - that would be a huge bug.
        If the DHCP server fails, then that has nothing to do with device. And it would have an effect on all devices on your network.

        There is a switch between the device and pfSEnse, right ?

        No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
        Edit : and where are the logs ??

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          bill1
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          yes, there is a switch, its a Netgear GS108. In the switch, I have 2 PC's, a printer, and a VOIP. Both PC's were down. Not sure on the VOIP and printer. I will check next time, as well as printing the DHCP service log.

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            bill1
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            SO, its been a while. There is still a problem.
            A hardware problem was suggested. At first, I suspected the switch in my office (just down from the firewall). It was kind of old so I replaced it. Problem not solved.(not recognizing computer, not assigning IP, occasionally). Next hypothesis- the cable. I bought a 75' cat6 with ends and re-ran. Old is now spare. Still not solved, but I had a long run without problems, a month or 2. Last night there was a problem, I reset the DHCP server and most of the network came up- wife's laptop, roku. My office PC was still down, but I shut down and went to bed. This morning after bootup, it wouldnt get on. No DHCP IP assignment. I screen shotted the logs, but there was nothing that jumped out at me. No DHCP requests. I rebooted. Still no assignment. Then I assigned a manual IP, that worked 192.168.1.238 is outside the DHCP range. I was able to log into the firewall. The status showed that all was well. I had internet access. Then I reset my nic back to DHCP. Everything still worked, however even though I selected DHCP, the IP didnt change from the .238 which is outside the range. Also, in the DHCP lease list, .238 didnt show. Then my wife couldnt get net access on her laptop. Same problem. I reset the DHCP server. no luck. I power cycled the firewall. Still nothing. I rebooted the firewall from diagnostics>reboot. Still nothing. (my office PC working, wife's laptop no IP assignment. ) I tried to set her nic to manual, but we lacked the passwords to get in there. She bailed and went into work. Generally, it seems to me that the resets or reboots dont really reset everything. Here are the logs from before and after a reset. I dont know where to go from here. Any ideas?

            file:///home/william/Downloads/Screenshot_2020-09-18%20pfSense%20localdomain%20-%20Status%20System%20Logs%20DHCP(1).png
            Screenshot_2020-09-18 pfSense localdomain - Status System Logs DHCP(2).png

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              bill1 @bill1
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                bill1 @bill1
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                @bill1 Screenshot_2020-09-18 pfSense localdomain - Status System Logs DHCP(3).png

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                • GertjanG
                  Gertjan
                  last edited by Gertjan

                  Hi,

                  It's time to how your interface settings.
                  Your LAN settings in detail (especially everything you took away from the default settings)
                  Your DHCP settings.

                  interface 'em1' is your LAN? right ?

                  Btw : Diagnostics > Packet Capture has been declared "non-rcoket-sience" since 2001.
                  Seeclt you LAN, select "Enable promiscuous mode" - remove all devices from LAN except the device you want to test, and start (boot) this device (PC).
                  The packet capture should start with a classic DHCP negotiation.

                  @bill1 said in New install- no DHCP assignments after PC sleeping:

                  I power cycled the firewall

                  Power cycled pfSense ?
                  That not good at all, and close to perfect if you want to obtain random errors and weird behaviours (file system hosed => very bad ). See the special Netgate / Youtube video about that subject - and see pfSense boot process from the console if it complains about a 'dirty' file system.

                  edit : ok, your second image goes straight into the weird behaviour category.

                  6a88024c-b7b8-418e-894a-7b7a166fb66b-image.png

                  It shows issues with the IPv6 (!) DHCP client (that is : not the DHCP v6 server, the DHCP v6 client runs on the WAN side to obtain a IPv6 from your upstream ..... router/ISP ?? )

                  Clean up the system - never rip out the power again - even get an UPS if needed.
                  Or just export the config, re install pfSEnse, import config (config could even be hosed).

                  Always keep an eye on the console boot process - it doesn't happen a lot, as pfSense doesn't need to be rebooted often (ones or twice a year just before and after upgrades).

                  No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                  Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                    bill1 @Gertjan
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                    @Gertjan Thanks so much for your help. FYI, is did NOT "rip" the plug out. I pressed the power button. Since this is the only way to shut it down, I thought it was ok. Its a Protectli vault. (I do have a dedicated UPS for it.) Yes, I believe that EM1 is the port marked LAN. Others are funny. The port labeled OPT1, shows up inside as OPT2, OPT2 shows as OPT3, etc. Usually I dont use the LAN port. When it jams up, I connect my laptop here to troubleshoot. It seems that just connecting to this port wakes up the DHCP most times. I am not sure what you mean by "clean up". I am not using IPv6. I block this traffic.
                    thanks again

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                    • GertjanG
                      Gertjan @bill1
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                      @bill1 said in New install- no DHCP assignments after PC sleeping:

                      what you mean by "clean up"

                      => This one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DKr1Dvan5I&t=1s

                      No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                      Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                        bill1 @Gertjan
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                        @Gertjan OK, I cleaned it up, no errors found. I rebooted and didnt see anything in the logs that jumped out at me. Working so far!

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